New rules on 2257 - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 06-30-2004, 01:24 AM

I could not find this any where, due to the search facility being down

, and think everyone should know about it.

So here it is again.

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This was posted by on elsewhere today and is VERY IMPORTANT.

What is different? What are the new requirements?

Full text can be found at: http://www.regulations.gov/freddocs/04-13792.htm

Here are some major points that pertain to webmasters as secondary record keepers:

a.. Internet Definitions. To bring the regulations up to date with the 2003 Amendments, the definition of a producer has been modified in proposed 28 CFR 75.1. Persons who manage the content of computer sites or services are considered secondary producers.

a.. A secondary producer is any person who produces, assembles, manufactures, publishes, duplicates, reproduces, or reissues a book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, a computer-generated image, digital image, or picture, or other matter intended for commercial distribution that contains a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct, or who inserts on a computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise manages the content of a computer site or service that contains a visual depiction of, actual sexually explicit conduct, including any person who enters into a contract, agreement, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing.

a.. Proposed 28 CFR 75.2(a)(1) would require computer site or service producers to maintain a ``hard'' physical or electronic copy of the actual depiction with the identification and age files, along with and linked to all accession information, such as each URL used for that depiction. This ensures that all of the data about all of the people in the depictions can be accessed to ensure that none of the people in the depictions are minors.

a.. A producer who is a secondary producer as defined in Sec. 75.1(c) may satisfy the requirements of this part to create and maintain records by accepting from the primary producer, as defined in Sec. 75.1(c), copies of the records described in paragraph (a) of this section. Such a secondary producer shall also keep records of the name and address of the primary producer from whom he received copies of the records.

You best keep up with this.

Discuss.

AaronM · 06-30-2004, 01:26 AM

uh huh....Search works fine for those of us with half a clue.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=319663

AaronM · 06-30-2004, 01:30 AM

Here Paul...Let me help you.

Here are all of the threads started in June that have 2257 mentioned in the title.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257

EviLGuY · 06-30-2004, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM
uh huh....Search works fine for those of us with half a clue.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=319663

You should have posted that pic with the Cluepon.

AaronM · 06-30-2004, 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by EviLGuY
You should have posted that pic with the Cluepon.

Naw...Can't be that mean to Paul. It's not his fault that is is an old goat who just does not understand them there computer things.

Paul Markham · 06-30-2004, 01:53 AM

This is the thread I was looking for.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=319663

And this is what I got on clicking on the search button

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/search.php?s=

So I'm stupid, but thanks for telling me guys.

AaronM · 06-30-2004, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by charly
And this is what I got on clicking on the search button

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/search.php?s=

So I'm stupid, but thanks for telling me guys.

Uh...Why would you click the search button? It has been disabled for a few months now.

You must use the new GFY search tool.

You have much to learn, Grasshopper.

Paul Markham · 06-30-2004, 01:59 AM

Let's face it this is not a "BOLT OUT OF THE BLUE" it was on the cards and you were warned.

If your lawyer advised you to not have the documents and not check them then you can blame him. If you took this advice from some board member posing as a lawyer you can point the finger at yourself.

AaronM · 06-30-2004, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by charly
Let's face it this is not a "BOLT OUT OF THE BLUE" it was on the cards and you were warned.

If your lawyer advised you to not have the documents and not check them then you can blame him. If you took this advice from some board member posing as a lawyer you can point the finger at yourself.

LOL

Tell us again about US law.

Sunset vs. who?

Time will tell.

Paul Markham · 06-30-2004, 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM
LOL

Tell us again about US law.

Sunset vs. who?

Time will tell.

Maybe that's why he's closing the gaps. Go ask a lawyer and see what he advises.

Or do nothing and hope no one can find you. Commonly known as the Ostrich Defense.

Lycanthrope · 06-30-2004, 06:06 AM

"a.. A secondary producer is any person who produces, assembles, manufactures, publishes, duplicates, reproduces, or reissues a book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, a computer-generated image, digital image, or picture, or other matter intended for commercial distribution that contains a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct, or who inserts on a computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise manages the content of a computer site or service that contains a visual depiction of, actual sexually explicit conduct, including any person who enters into a contract, agreement, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing."

This paragraph is a bit frightening... given the right judge and the wrong lawyer, wouldn't thumb preview tgps and perhaps even some banners fall under this?

Paul Markham · 06-30-2004, 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by Lycanthrope
"a.. A secondary producer is any person who produces, assembles, manufactures, publishes, duplicates, reproduces, or reissues a book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, a computer-generated image, digital image, or picture, or other matter intended for commercial distribution that contains a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct, or who inserts on a computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise manages the content of a computer site or service that contains a visual depiction of, actual sexually explicit conduct, including any person who enters into a contract, agreement, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing."

This paragraph is a bit frightening... given the right judge and the wrong lawyer, wouldn't thumb preview tgps and perhaps even some banners fall under this?

I think given any lawyer and any judge they fall under this.

Lycanthrope · 06-30-2004, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by charly
I think given any lawyer and any judge they fall under this.

Yes, now that I re-read this after having my coffee it is pretty cut & dry.

hmmm.

Paul Markham · 06-30-2004, 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Yes, now that I re-read this after having my coffee it is pretty cut & dry.

hmmm.

What Ashhahahahaha is trying to do is look good for his voters. This is an ammendment to an existing law, a tightening up. It passes around August, the election is November 2nd.

So reckon Ashhahahahaha is going to be very active with these new powers around September to November 1st. He will want lots of reasons for people to go out and vote for him.

He's not likely to get our vote, he looking to shore up the right.

Go ask a lawyer what you should do.

06-30-2004, 01:53 AM	#6
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	This is the thread I was looking for. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=319663 And this is what I got on clicking on the search button http://www.gofuckyourself.com/search.php?s= So I'm stupid, but thanks for telling me guys. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

06-30-2004, 01:59 AM	#8
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Let's face it this is not a "BOLT OUT OF THE BLUE" it was on the cards and you were warned. If your lawyer advised you to not have the documents and not check them then you can blame him. If you took this advice from some board member posing as a lawyer you can point the finger at yourself. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

06-30-2004, 06:06 AM	#11
Lycanthrope Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,517	"a.. A secondary producer is any person who produces, assembles, manufactures, publishes, duplicates, reproduces, or reissues a book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, a computer-generated image, digital image, or picture, or other matter intended for commercial distribution that contains a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct, or who inserts on a computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise manages the content of a computer site or service that contains a visual depiction of, actual sexually explicit conduct, including any person who enters into a contract, agreement, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing." This paragraph is a bit frightening... given the right judge and the wrong lawyer, wouldn't thumb preview tgps and perhaps even some banners fall under this? __________________

06-30-2004, 01:26 AM	#2
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	uh huh....Search works fine for those of us with half a clue. http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=319663

06-30-2004, 01:30 AM	#3
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Here Paul...Let me help you. Here are all of the threads started in June that have 2257 mentioned in the title. http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257 http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257 http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257 http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257 http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257 http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257 http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257 http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...highlight=2257