How many of you have been caught cheating? - GoFuckYourself.com

sweetjimmy · 03-22-2001, 02:08 PM

Any of you guys break the rules in your newbie days? I used to blind link amateurpages on my kickass porncity webpage. Then one day my page mysteriously dissappeared. I tried amateurpages again after that but it became obvious that i wasn't gonna be able to make the minimum payout so i bent some rules again. Lo and behold I didn't get a check and Lensman neglected to tell me I was caught so I kept sending traffic for a while like an idiot. He even emailed me back and said he was looking for my check. What a prick. What really pissed me off was that they got a sign up or two and i got jack. I should of been on the sign up program. Do these guys black list people or send mail bombs cause they have my name and address?

So I guess the moral of this story is: If you cheat your only cheating yourself. Out of money that is.

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gorfllub · 03-22-2001, 03:04 PM

You know, I have wondered about that.... I think I finally accumulated $75 in clicks, but still no check. I read the rules over and over and over and over, and look at my pages over and over and over, and everything looks A-OK... but like you said... Maybe I am terminated and just sending traffic through just for the hell of it!

Hahaha

aprilkorova · 03-22-2001, 05:14 PM

So you cheated and Lensman's the prick? It may have been cool of him to let you know that you had been dropped, but, from his point of view, he didn't know if you did it purposefully or not. Why would he have gone out of his way for you or not let you continue to send traffic or whatever, I'm sure that he didn't feel like he owed you anything at that point. If I had made a mistake in his program, I would hope that he would have e-mailed me to straighten it out, but I don't know if I would have expected it.

Anyways, no I have never intentionally cheated nor have I been blacklisted or any other form of punishment from unintentional mistakes. But, I studied this biz for 2 years before jumping in the game, learned a lot from others mistakes before I even started. Especially from lurking on boards. So I think I had a one up in that department. There's nothing saying I may not make an unintentional mistake and get in trouble in the future. But, never intentional cheating. Just like in any other biz or life in general...cheaters never prosper and really just fuck themselves in the long run.

Kat - Fast · 03-22-2001, 05:28 PM

CHEAT??? Dude, i didn't even know hotlinking was possible until i came to this board! lol, just as well, or i probably would have messed up straight away :/

i am going to make some money this year
i am going to make some money this year
i am going to make some money this year
if i say it enough, it might happen
i am going to make...........

sweetjimmy · 03-22-2001, 07:49 PM

He's actually smart to keep letting you send him traffic. These guys on the board seem to be getting their money so the only problem is getting 75 bucks worth in clicks. It's just hard to trust companies on the internet.

TheFLY · 03-22-2001, 08:53 PM

I got accused of cheating by Brad Shaw's program, Amateur Beaver -- I had a banner to them at the top of my site -- that month I sent them 22,000+ clickthroughs -- but I also had some of their free content on the same page -- and according to their rules you have to have a link back to their program if you are using their content (text link program) -- I had this set up w/ the name of the model pointing to their text link program -- anyway they didn't pay me and they accused me of cheating... I don't know what happened -- maybe one of their employees visited my site and was not familiar w/ their own rules about using their text link program along w/ the free content -- after many emails, phone calls, and basically a lot lies and other bullshit they said they would pay me for the signups that I sent... They claimed that I only sent them TWO signups out of 22,000 clickthroughs. Which is total bullshit (I converted 1:450 on their program the following month when they switched stats programs) -- anyway I had been using Shaw Internet programs almost since I started (that was over two years I had been using their programs) -- they were paying me thousands of dollars each month -- and what do I get? Is there any loyalty? -- one time I called them and before they hung up they started laughing. That really pissed me off -- if you are going to pay me $50,000 a year come on you should at least know my name and be professional... I don't care how many boats you have or how rich you are...

It's always nice to have personal friends that run their own paysites -- then you don't have to worry so much...

In any case it's their loss -- I now send all that traffic to Amateur Pages. I think if you ask most webmasters that know me -- they would tell you that I play by the rules and I stick to them -- also I've had other webmasters tell me that my traffic converts well. To me it's not just about money -- give people the respect they deserve and don't second guess someone -- otherwise you will have a lot of enemies...

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Brian · 03-22-2001, 09:39 PM

Good post Fly

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Lensman · 03-23-2001, 01:06 AM

Fly, good post, I agree with Brian.

Your traffic is always great and you have lots of it.

Jimmy, thanks for the honesty about trying to cheat us. It was obviously something you wouldn't do again, and you can rejoin the program if you want.

We really don't have any obligation to notify cheaters. But honest webmasters always get treated right. And if anyone ever wants their site reviewed to make sure there are no rules problems, just drop me an email lensman at amatuerpages.com.

dropped9 · 03-23-2001, 01:32 AM

Lens, can you go over my site......
http://www.ratethepoop.com

HAHAHAH

Humbolt · 03-23-2001, 02:22 AM

Jimmy
You said:
"It's just hard to trust companies on the internet."

After reading your post
I think it should have read..
"Its just hard to trust us cheaters"

Lens is a prick?

Sounds kinds like the old addage:

Every EX boyfriend is an asshole..

Techie Media · 03-23-2001, 02:39 AM

Sweetjimmy, you just actually admitted that not only did you cheat Lensman 1 time, but did it again to try and make 75 buck minimum???
Then you just wrote all this on Lensmans Public Forum ......LOL
Did you bump your head or something???....LOLLOL this is the funniest thing I've ever seen posted...

Hey Humbolt, nice to see you face around stranger...

And even after this Lensman is willing to forgive and forget....man Thats a good guy..

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boneprone · 03-23-2001, 03:40 AM

hey fly, i remember when you had that problem.. I had the exact same problem with them the month before, but called them and talked it over.. They realized that my traffic was too good to let go like that.. As I told you, I also used my Jedi Mind tricks and got them to let me blind link to them and still get the 5 cent pay.. But after they left ctc, and went inhouse tracking and fired Derek the only socialable person there I had to leave em..

Anyhow, they really have that fuck everyone attitude. And the books at shaw are really fucked.. Anyone recieving a 1099 knows what im talking about!! Some of ya who made like 10k didnt even get 1099's!! They really miss Derek.. But his personality didnt quite fit into the fuck everyone attitude..

Tonda is cool, a nice lady, but Im not sure shes got a grip on the books..

Anyway my bet is on that we see shaw and the IRS together in an article within 2 years.

sweetjimmy · 03-23-2001, 09:46 AM

Hey I was a rookie at this stuff. I didn't even know if any of these jokers where gonna pay me. I called him a prick in a friendly way because I admired his cleverness. I emailed him and complained that I didn't get my check. He just kept me hanging thinking I would get a check while I kepts sending him traffic. He's a good businessman, which is probably why AP is so succesful. But its tough not to cheat when all your clicks are getting erased because calvin only keeps the stats for a few months and you can't make the minimum payout.

You told me not to get involved with amateur beaver fly so thanks for saving me some time. Actually, It might have been boneprone. Its hard to find a decent company that'll give you some security in porn. Without per click sponsors you run the risk of making big money one month while making fuckall the next.

sweetjimmy · 03-23-2001, 09:49 AM

speak of the devil. boneprone read this post at the same time.

Fuck_it_all · 03-23-2001, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Headless:
Lens, can you go over my site......
http://www.ratethepoop.com

HAHAHAH

TheFLY · 03-23-2001, 02:37 PM

thanks for the support guys...

03-22-2001, 02:08 PM	#1
sweetjimmy Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Harlem, NY, U.S.A Posts: 777	How many of you have been caught cheating? Any of you guys break the rules in your newbie days? I used to blind link amateurpages on my kickass porncity webpage. Then one day my page mysteriously dissappeared. I tried amateurpages again after that but it became obvious that i wasn't gonna be able to make the minimum payout so i bent some rules again. Lo and behold I didn't get a check and Lensman neglected to tell me I was caught so I kept sending traffic for a while like an idiot. He even emailed me back and said he was looking for my check. What a prick. What really pissed me off was that they got a sign up or two and i got jack. I should of been on the sign up program. Do these guys black list people or send mail bombs cause they have my name and address? So I guess the moral of this story is: If you cheat your only cheating yourself. Out of money that is. ------------------ http://www.sweetjimmy.com/ [This message has been edited by sweetjimmy (edited 03-22-2001).]

03-22-2001, 03:04 PM	#2
gorfllub Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: From the North, eh? Posts: 26	You know, I have wondered about that.... I think I finally accumulated $75 in clicks, but still no check. I read the rules over and over and over and over, and look at my pages over and over and over, and everything looks A-OK... but like you said... Maybe I am terminated and just sending traffic through just for the hell of it! Hahaha

03-22-2001, 05:14 PM	#3
aprilkorova Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 649	So you cheated and Lensman's the prick? It may have been cool of him to let you know that you had been dropped, but, from his point of view, he didn't know if you did it purposefully or not. Why would he have gone out of his way for you or not let you continue to send traffic or whatever, I'm sure that he didn't feel like he owed you anything at that point. If I had made a mistake in his program, I would hope that he would have e-mailed me to straighten it out, but I don't know if I would have expected it. Anyways, no I have never intentionally cheated nor have I been blacklisted or any other form of punishment from unintentional mistakes. But, I studied this biz for 2 years before jumping in the game, learned a lot from others mistakes before I even started. Especially from lurking on boards. So I think I had a one up in that department. There's nothing saying I may not make an unintentional mistake and get in trouble in the future. But, never intentional cheating. Just like in any other biz or life in general...cheaters never prosper and really just fuck themselves in the long run.

03-22-2001, 05:28 PM	#4
Kat - Fast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The bushes behind your house Posts: 2,303	CHEAT??? Dude, i didn't even know hotlinking was possible until i came to this board! lol, just as well, or i probably would have messed up straight away :/ i am going to make some money this year i am going to make some money this year i am going to make some money this year if i say it enough, it might happen i am going to make...........

03-22-2001, 07:49 PM	#5
sweetjimmy Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Harlem, NY, U.S.A Posts: 777	He's actually smart to keep letting you send him traffic. These guys on the board seem to be getting their money so the only problem is getting 75 bucks worth in clicks. It's just hard to trust companies on the internet.

03-22-2001, 08:53 PM	#6
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	I got accused of cheating by Brad Shaw's program, Amateur Beaver -- I had a banner to them at the top of my site -- that month I sent them 22,000+ clickthroughs -- but I also had some of their free content on the same page -- and according to their rules you have to have a link back to their program if you are using their content (text link program) -- I had this set up w/ the name of the model pointing to their text link program -- anyway they didn't pay me and they accused me of cheating... I don't know what happened -- maybe one of their employees visited my site and was not familiar w/ their own rules about using their text link program along w/ the free content -- after many emails, phone calls, and basically a lot lies and other bullshit they said they would pay me for the signups that I sent... They claimed that I only sent them TWO signups out of 22,000 clickthroughs. Which is total bullshit (I converted 1:450 on their program the following month when they switched stats programs) -- anyway I had been using Shaw Internet programs almost since I started (that was over two years I had been using their programs) -- they were paying me thousands of dollars each month -- and what do I get? Is there any loyalty? -- one time I called them and before they hung up they started laughing. That really pissed me off -- if you are going to pay me $50,000 a year come on you should at least know my name and be professional... I don't care how many boats you have or how rich you are... It's always nice to have personal friends that run their own paysites -- then you don't have to worry so much... In any case it's their loss -- I now send all that traffic to Amateur Pages. I think if you ask most webmasters that know me -- they would tell you that I play by the rules and I stick to them -- also I've had other webmasters tell me that my traffic converts well. To me it's not just about money -- give people the respect they deserve and don't second guess someone -- otherwise you will have a lot of enemies... ------------------ -- thefly.net

03-22-2001, 09:39 PM	#7
Brian Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amherst, MA Posts: 450	Good post Fly ------------------ Brian www.webmastercommerce.com

03-23-2001, 01:06 AM	#8
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Fly, good post, I agree with Brian. Your traffic is always great and you have lots of it. Jimmy, thanks for the honesty about trying to cheat us. It was obviously something you wouldn't do again, and you can rejoin the program if you want. We really don't have any obligation to notify cheaters. But honest webmasters always get treated right. And if anyone ever wants their site reviewed to make sure there are no rules problems, just drop me an email lensman at amatuerpages.com.

03-23-2001, 01:32 AM	#9
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	Lens, can you go over my site...... http://www.ratethepoop.com HAHAHAH

03-23-2001, 02:22 AM	#10
Humbolt Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Got a rubber I can borrow? Posts: 218	Jimmy You said: "It's just hard to trust companies on the internet." After reading your post I think it should have read.. "Its just hard to trust us cheaters" Lens is a prick? Sounds kinds like the old addage: Every EX boyfriend is an asshole..

03-23-2001, 02:39 AM	#11
Techie Media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,092	Sweetjimmy, you just actually admitted that not only did you cheat Lensman 1 time, but did it again to try and make 75 buck minimum??? Then you just wrote all this on Lensmans Public Forum ......LOL Did you bump your head or something???....LOLLOL this is the funniest thing I've ever seen posted... Hey Humbolt, nice to see you face around stranger... And even after this Lensman is willing to forgive and forget....man Thats a good guy.. ------------------ Smile and Be Happy Lightning Free Hosting [This message has been edited by Lightning (edited 03-23-2001).]

03-23-2001, 03:40 AM	#12
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	hey fly, i remember when you had that problem.. I had the exact same problem with them the month before, but called them and talked it over.. They realized that my traffic was too good to let go like that.. As I told you, I also used my Jedi Mind tricks and got them to let me blind link to them and still get the 5 cent pay.. But after they left ctc, and went inhouse tracking and fired Derek the only socialable person there I had to leave em.. Anyhow, they really have that fuck everyone attitude. And the books at shaw are really fucked.. Anyone recieving a 1099 knows what im talking about!! Some of ya who made like 10k didnt even get 1099's!! They really miss Derek.. But his personality didnt quite fit into the fuck everyone attitude.. Tonda is cool, a nice lady, but Im not sure shes got a grip on the books.. Anyway my bet is on that we see shaw and the IRS together in an article within 2 years.

03-23-2001, 09:46 AM	#13
sweetjimmy Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Harlem, NY, U.S.A Posts: 777	Hey I was a rookie at this stuff. I didn't even know if any of these jokers where gonna pay me. I called him a prick in a friendly way because I admired his cleverness. I emailed him and complained that I didn't get my check. He just kept me hanging thinking I would get a check while I kepts sending him traffic. He's a good businessman, which is probably why AP is so succesful. But its tough not to cheat when all your clicks are getting erased because calvin only keeps the stats for a few months and you can't make the minimum payout. You told me not to get involved with amateur beaver fly so thanks for saving me some time. Actually, It might have been boneprone. Its hard to find a decent company that'll give you some security in porn. Without per click sponsors you run the risk of making big money one month while making fuckall the next.

03-23-2001, 09:49 AM	#14
sweetjimmy Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Harlem, NY, U.S.A Posts: 777	speak of the devil. boneprone read this post at the same time.

03-23-2001, 02:37 PM	#16
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	thanks for the support guys...