lesser of two evils this time..
Have the librals done a horrid job the last 10 years or so... i dont think so...

Will the PC do any better.. who knows. But the backward thinking socialy and the way the mirror the Bush goverment scared me a little two much.

Im willing to put up with a change.. if someone fuckes up vote em out in 4 years... but it was the chance of the loss of social libertys that scard me out of a PC vote.

As far as stupid people here in the "east"... last time i was out west it always seemed that people cut out of work early.. alot:glugglug

anyway As of now.. a libral govertnment is fine by me. Just have to deal with another referendum because the Block lied there way into more seats. Pretty sure the last time i was at the boarder there were armed guards holding you back from leaving:2 cents:

"because the Block lied there way into more seats" You noticed that as well have you ? :BangBang:

Yes, because I'm smart enough to see through Harper, because I've watched what he's said for years, I'm "spouting others mantra", whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. I'd bet money you haven't even read the conservative policy guide, as bullshit as it is.

Build a firewall around this Harper, and unpack your bags because you're staying in hick town. :321GFY

The liberals are currupt! Talk about spouting off other peoples bullshit. They've run our country successful for a decade, you can't point out the last time a conservative government has done that because it's never happened in history. If you want crushing dept so badly, get a house you can't afford or some shit, don't elect a moron who's going to stick it on the backs of our nation's youth.

You have to be pretty fucking stupid to vote just for the sake of change, and EXTREMELY stupid to vote for an evangelical christian who would make it harder for us to run our businesses. Well, I guess taking pictures of real pornographers wouldn't be illegal, but the rest of us might have problems.

lol says metaman...

true..

yup if i lived in qubec id be pissed:2 cents:

There you go.. Enjoy.

http://www.separationalberta.com/

Why Separation?

A better question would be ?Why stay??

For almost 100 years, Alberta and the West have been trying to become real members of Canada and true, equal partners in Confederation. These efforts have proved fruitless. It is time to move forward and protect Alberta?s future. It is time to stop the financial and emotional drain caused by an incompetent, unresponsive political and bureaucratic nightmare called ?Ottawa?.


Economic Cost of Federation for Alberta, 1961 ? Present

Alberta has, on a per capita basis, been Ottawa?s largest single contributor. For example, between 1961 and 1992, Alberta paid $139 billion more to Ottawa than it received back from Ottawa. That is what it cost Albertans to be Canadian. *

And where did the money go? During that time frame, the province of Quebec, despite its large population and vibrant economy, was a net recipient of over $ 168 billion from Ottawa. Alberta was paying Quebec to be Canadian. *

* Source: Dr. Robert Mansell and Ronald Schlenker, ?The Provincial Distribution of Federal Fiscal Balances,? Canadian Business Economics 3:2 (Winter, 1995), 3-21

There are two net contributors to Ottawa; - Alberta and Ontario. The difference is that Ontario gets a return on investment. They have a diversified economy with end use manufacturing. They also have a strong voice in federal policy. The Kyoto Accord would have adversely affected Alberta and Ontario, however, Ottawa exempted the Ontario Auto Industry from the Accord.

Alberta?s Cost 1997 ? 2003**
In Billions Canadian Dollars $ 54.933
1997: $ 5.668
1999: $ 6.130
2001: $ 8.568
1998: $ 6.279
2000: $ 7.190
2002: $ 9.998
2003: $ 11.100

** Source: Alberta Finance March 2004


Alberta has fought Ottawa on numerous issues. Here are some issues that Alberta fought and lost the battle because of weak leaders:

? National Energy Program
? Kyoto
? Interference in Agriculture Policy
? Family Rights
? Personal Property Rights
? Federal Health Care Payments

National issues that waste tax-payers dollars and frustrate Albertans:

? Jane Stewart?s HRDC Boondoggle
? Helicopters cancelled, then reordered
? Submarine Debacle
? Firearms Registry Fiasco
? Broken Election Promises (no GST)
? No Serious National Debt Reduction
? Budgets Balanced at worker's expense
? Lack of Parliamentary Reform
? Canada Pension Plan is broke
? Out of control National Debt
? Ottawa?s lack of respect for Alberta
? Sponsorship Scandal

Albertans are tired of losing these battles. It is time to take what is rightfully ours. An independent Alberta would have a great future with a strong, viable, diversified economy.

What is the Long-term plan?
To give Alberta to Albertans
To facilitate the peaceful Separation of Alberta from Canadian Confederation
To become the most viable nation in the western hemisphere.

Petitions and rallies do not force change
It is time to take decisive action

Just for your Info, I probably had porn sites before you, so dont get carried away. You just have to bring up the religion angle at every turn dont you ?
and the only people "who's going to stick it on the backs of our nation's youth" are the Liberals .......A change was needed, too bad some people are too fucking stupid not to see it

Have you even listened to what the high-profile members of the Conservative party say?

A change just for changes sake is ridiculous.

This countries situation has never been better in recent history.

All levels of government anywhere in the world have some degree of scandal.

Id have to agree.
seems everyones forgoten nafta and Meech Lake...
PC wasent any better.. they were worse.

So a change for a change makes sence why..?

Our dollar is up.. the national debt is down.. We have good health care... Things have been alot worse under other governments:2 cents:

Duceppe didnt lied
he say if your vote fot he Bloc, you are not voting for separation :P
but the fact is that the Bloc is a eparatism party, not a federalist

but you vote on separation of Quebec on a referendum, not at a Federal election

eveyone not understanding this is a dumpass and deserve the governement he have

JFK - post something intelligent please.

I want to understand your reasons for voting conservative and I want to know hwy you are ridiculing me and other canadians who voted liberal.

Dont just fire back something stupid like:

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You are just full of it arent you , cant think for your self, so you are spouting others mantra.......Buga.. Buga... the Conservatives will come and eat you kids......Run for the hills ..
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Cuz it makes no sense to me.

I 2nd that

my reason for voting liberal is easy - martin can balance the budget.

while I dont feel that the liberals are a good choice, they are better then anything else avail right now :(

canadian politics suck

The Vote is done........ cant be bothered, not that you would listen anyways, or have the intelligence to comprehend !

I see... embarassed that you started the thread now JFK?

Harper would have been worse!!
But i'm not crazy about Martin.
Don't forget how Mulroney Fucked Canada and got away with it. Harper is cut from the same cloth.

lol

and this is the guy who elected GW BUSh... why don't you
GO FUCK YOURSLEF
:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

Nope, No regrets.... but like I said ......The Vote is done, Election Over. Nothing I can Do..... So why flog a dead horse ? Could have been worse, they could have come in with a majority:Hollering :Hollering :eek2

100 sheep:helpme

to whom are you refering ?? ??

and its
GO FUCK YOURSELF

:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

:thumbsup

And I voted Marijhuana Party :stoned :rasta :smokin

:frenchman


Nah, I voted conservative, but we lost :(

Since you are the one who started this thread AFTER the election you should be able to have some rational arguements for it (to at least prove you are a mentally competent adult) But it seems ( as with most right wingers) that you just like to shoot of your mouth without thinking or you just lack the abilty to think rationally.

Anyways it looks like we'll be heading for another election soon because of the damn seperatist; so if you have any rational arguements to support voting for the conservatives I would be glad to read them.

canadians blow.:2 cents:

nOOBs are goofs :2 cents:

All gov't is corrupt, that is a given. Your only hope is that the guy in charge happens to fuck you less than the others would.

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Yeah yeah Yeah......BLAH BLAH BLAH ..... I am sure you have all the answers .......If you want to read arguments for supporting the conservatives, I am Sure they would be happy to supply you with countless pounds of reading material. So Stop rambling prove you are a mentally competent adult, and read some for a change:glugglug

I have actually listened to them and read some of their material(it seemed very general : like a big wish list) and they do have some good points(The PC acually did; not the Reformers) but this new Conservative party is mostly Reformers and frankly they have thier heads shoved way deep in thier asses.

But I would still like to know how they can influence you. Is it thier religous values?

Let's keep it cool, people.