Why isnt Moore donating 100% of the proceeds.. - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

dropped9 · 06-28-2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
It was a documentary, not a "Declaration of Patriotism". The documentary leans to his views, because it's his movie and he'll be the first person to admit that he not bipartisan and not going to be unbiased in his own documentaries.

I havent seen the movie yet, but from what I hear it is far from a documentary...

goBigtime · 06-28-2004, 02:34 PM

Probably for the same reason you don't give your extra cheeseburger money to the skinny homeless people who could use it more.

jimmyf · 06-28-2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Buddy
I think he ate the proceeds.

dropped9 · 06-28-2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
Probably for the same reason you don't give your extra cheeseburger money to the skinny homeless people who could use it more.

Like I said to the other moron... This thread is for ppl with a brain... So get lost moron......

Corleone · 06-28-2004, 02:35 PM

you can ask that all the celebs that donate money

britney donates 20k for charity.. oh great she has 100 million on his bank

others spending 30k for children in africa and they've 50 million..

and then they're all collecting money for their charity actions but they've 100x more on the bank then all the normal ppl donate..

Tuna · 06-28-2004, 02:36 PM

is he even an american citizen?

Corleone · 06-28-2004, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by Tuna
is he even an american citizen?

fo shizzle

uno · 06-28-2004, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by BobChezule
He's a business man. He made the movie to make money. He may talk about wanting to influence the election and such, but he's all about the money. So are the Weinsteins. And this thing is going to be a huge moneymaker. He can buy himself a nice house and finance 5 movies with the money he'll make.

Why are making money and doing what you believe is right two different things? One can't possibly do something meaningful, get a message out, and make money all at the same time?

AndrewKanuck · 06-28-2004, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by Headless
I havent seen the movie yet, but from what I hear it is far from a documentary...

Really, cuz the press are declaring it a documentary. Direct from CNN:

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" took in a whopping $21.8 million in its first three days, becoming the first documentary ever to debut as Hollywood's top weekend film.

DOCUMENTARY. Strange eh?

dropped9 · 06-28-2004, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by uno
Why are making money and doing what you believe is right two different things? One can't possibly do something meaningful, get a message out, and make money all at the same time?

Doesnt that add a bit of suspicion to the motive behind it?

baddog · 06-28-2004, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Headless

Now what exactly was he making this movie for?

The money

goBigtime · 06-28-2004, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Headless
Like I said to the other moron... This thread is for ppl with a brain... So get lost moron......

If you had more than a trolls brain, you might have gotten the message of my message.

dropped9 · 06-28-2004, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
Really, cuz the press are declaring it a documentary. Direct from CNN:

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" took in a whopping $21.8 million in its first three days, becoming the first documentary ever to debut as Hollywood's top weekend film.

DOCUMENTARY. Strange eh?

doc·u·men·ta·ry ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dky-mnt-r)
adj.
Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents.
Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film.

Tom_PMs · 06-28-2004, 02:41 PM

A true patriot would have fought for the King instead of the measley 13 upstart colony states.
A true patriot would have shot bullets into the people dumping the kings tea into boston harbour.

A true american will speak out and stand up for whats right, DESPITE the lemmings spouting garbage in all directions because they're told to.

Bush tried to block the congressional 9/11 committee, but when he lost that fight, he still blacked out 28 complete pages believed to have pertained to the Saudi government.

Bush tried to also block the bi-partisan 9/11 committee brought on behalf of the victims of 9/11 and their familes. He lost that fight too and still refused to testify under oath. He wouldnt even go on camera. He wouldnt even speak to them alone. He would only speak to them with Cheney there to help him.

Corruption stinks! Wheres your backbone?

dropped9 · 06-28-2004, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
If you had more than a trolls brain, you might have gotten the message of my message.

Some ppl are surely dense...

baddog · 06-28-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
If bush had no hidden agenda to declaring Saddam had WMD, then obviously Moore has no hidden agenda to making a documentary.

Do you even know what a documentary is? This was hardly a documentary. Moore would not even call it a documentary.

doc·u·men·ta·ry ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dky-mnt-r)
adj.
Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents.
Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film.

dropped9 · 06-28-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by Tom_PM
A true patriot would have fought for the King instead of the measley 13 upstart colony states.
A true patriot would have shot bullets into the people dumping the kings tea into boston harbour.

A true american will speak out and stand up for whats right, DESPITE the lemmings spouting garbage in all directions because they're told to.

Bush tried to block the congressional 9/11 committee, but when he lost that fight, he still blacked out 28 complete pages believed to have pertained to the Saudi government.

Bush tried to also block the bi-partisan 9/11 committee brought on behalf of the victims of 9/11 and their familes. He lost that fight too and still refused to testify under oath. He wouldnt even go on camera. He wouldnt even speak to them alone. He would only speak to them with Cheney there to help him.

Corruption stinks! Wheres your backbone?

This thread has been declared the no spin. So please take that jibber jabber else where... This thread is not about bush, cheney or anyone else... It is about Moore and why he only made the movie to profit from it.

AndrewKanuck · 06-28-2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Headless
doc·u·men·ta·ry ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dky-mnt-r)
adj.
Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents.
Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film.

And he doesn't insert factional matter, so.....whats your point Rush?

baddog · 06-28-2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
Really, cuz the press are declaring it a documentary. Direct from CNN:

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" took in a whopping $21.8 million in its first three days, becoming the first documentary ever to debut as Hollywood's top weekend film.

DOCUMENTARY. Strange eh?

oh, I get it . . . if it is in the paper it must be true.

Look up the word

dropped9 · 06-28-2004, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Tuna
is he even an american citizen?

If he is not then it gives even more doubt as to motives behind this movie.

Tom_PMs · 06-28-2004, 02:46 PM

Headless, Michale Moore has already said the motive behind the movie. Whats your point again?

TheWildcard · 06-28-2004, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
He has staff to pay, production to pay for, publicity to pay for, advertisements to pay for - not to mention, he's not getting that all in his pocket - there are distributors and sponsors taking a nice chunk of change.

What he said.

dropped9 · 06-28-2004, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
And he doesn't insert factional matter, so.....whats your point Rush?

You give true meaning to the term sheep here on gfy. Can you not base your own opinions on all facts at hand? Why do you insist on calling me rush? Is it the cool thing to do?

Rictor · 06-28-2004, 02:47 PM

I'm sure he donates to charity. He seems to live a pretty simple life to me...I don't see him wearing designer labels or flying around in a private jet. His cars are modest enough...and I'm sure he donates plenty to charity, including his own causes.

Tuna · 06-28-2004, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by Headless
If he is not then it gives even more doubt as to motives behind this movie.

i always thought he was canadian.

Tom_PMs · 06-28-2004, 02:48 PM

First it looked like this thread was about why he didnt donate money to familes. Well he does..
Then there was a patriotic issue, well thats clearly BS too as I pointed out.
Now what? That the movie makes money? Only because people go to see it! LOL

baddog · 06-28-2004, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
And he doesn't insert factional matter, so.....whats your point Rush?

Presenting facts objectively

ob·jec·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b-jktv)
adj.
Of or having to do with a material object.
Having actual existence or reality.

Uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices: an objective critic.

Entry: objectively
Function: adverb
Definition: impartially
Synonyms: considerately, detachedly, disinterestedly, dispassionately, equitably, even-handedly, indifferently, justly, neutrally, open-mindedly, soberly, squarely, with impartiality, with objectivity, without favor, without prejudice

I hope English is not your native tongue, because you really have not grasped the meaning of some pretty basic words

AndrewKanuck · 06-28-2004, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by Headless
You give true meaning to the term sheep here on gfy. Can you not base your own opinions on all facts at hand? Why do you insist on calling me rush? Is it the cool thing to do?

I'll retract my Rush statement, however, the cool thing to do seems to be throwing twinkies and fat jokes into the thread - however, I won't bother with that crap. I simply replied to your definition of Documentary stating that the movie fits that definition....and now that you got nothing to retaliate with, you'll come at me with the sheep shit? Way to go slick

AndrewKanuck · 06-28-2004, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Tuna
i always thought he was canadian.

Nah, he just loves canadians.

baddog · 06-28-2004, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Tuna
i always thought he was canadian.

that would explain a lot

Tom_PMs · 06-28-2004, 02:51 PM

He never claimed it was an objective view of the facts.

It's HIS view of the facts. No apologies for it either. Does Fox news apologize for slanted views?

dropped9 · 06-28-2004, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
I'll retract my Rush statement, however, the cool thing to do seems to be throwing twinkies and fat jokes into the thread - however, I won't bother with that crap. I simply replied to your definition of Documentary stating that the movie fits that definition....and now that you got nothing to retaliate with, you'll come at me with the sheep shit? Way to go slick

Um remind me... who threw out garbage comments first Mr. Rush?

baddog · 06-28-2004, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
I simply replied to your definition of Documentary stating that the movie fits that definition....

I think I answered the question for you if you were not satisfied with his response

AndrewKanuck · 06-28-2004, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
I think I answered the question for you if you were not satisfied with his response

and I said in previous posts, that he'll be the first to admit that the movies are slanted to his views...just as Rush would admit that his shows are slanted to his views...they're both out of the closet with their views - why penalize one but not the other?

baddog · 06-28-2004, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Tom_PM
He never claimed it was an objective view of the facts.

It's HIS view of the facts. No apologies for it either. Does Fox news apologize for slanted views?

They don't claim to be a documentary either . . . . I highly doubt Moore even considers his crap to be a documentary . . . why the Movie Academy deems fit to give him an award for a documentary is beyond me

AndrewKanuck · 06-28-2004, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Headless
Um remind me... who threw out garbage comments first Mr. Rush?

And I retracted it, and I'd be better suited being called Mr. Moore vs. Rush due to my views...but it's all good.

baddog · 06-28-2004, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
and I said in previous posts, that he'll be the first to admit that the movies are slanted to his views...just as Rush would admit that his shows are slanted to his views...they're both out of the closet with their views - why penalize one but not the other?

My only purpose here is to dispute your (or anyone else's) assertion that F 9/11 is a documentary

Ironhorse · 06-28-2004, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Headless
I havent seen the movie yet, but from what I hear it is far from a documentary...

Think for yourself much do you?

AndrewKanuck · 06-28-2004, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
My only purpose here is to dispute your (or anyone else's) assertion that F 9/11 is a documentary

Atleast your honest about it.

Tom_PMs · 06-28-2004, 02:59 PM

AH ok well.. it's been called a documentary by the movie industry itself. They'd have to answer that one. I dont think any of us are more qualified.

And some proceeds do go to victims of 9/11.

Plenty of sig views though

directfiesta · 06-28-2004, 03:00 PM

STFU!

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June 26th, 2004 5:17 pm
FAHRENHEIT 9/11 EMBRACED BY THOUSANDS ATTENDING BENEFIT SCREENINGS

Friday, June 25th? I am overjoyed to announce that the June 24th pre-premiere screenings held in ten cities across the country, benefiting local charitable organizations, were all extraordinary successes!! Thanks entirely to the volunteers on the ground ALL TEN SHOWS WERE SOLD OUT! While final numbers are not in, suffice to say that a whole lot of money made its way into the coffers of very worthy organizations and thousands of people left the theaters Thursday night determined to tell every friend, neighbor, family member and co-worker, ?You?ve got to see this film!?

We?d like to thank (in no particular order) the following organizations for making this experience the unmitigated success that it was:

Military Families Speak Out
September 11th Families For Peaceful Tomorrows
Veterans For Peace
Hate Free Zone
ACLU of Washington
Peace & Justice Works
Free Speech TV & Deep Dish TV
ACLU of Florida
Progressive Alliance
New York Civil Liberties Union
New York Review of Books
Illinois Coalition Against The Death Penalty
DFL Education Foundation

On behalf of myself and everyone associated with the film let me say THANK YOU!

--Michael Moore

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/la...ndex.php?id=33

directfiesta · 06-28-2004, 03:01 PM

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For Immediate Release
May 14, 2003

Oscar winner Michael Moore donates $25,000 to ALA Spectrum Initiative
?Only the beginning,? filmmaker says
The American Library Association (ALA) is pleased to announce that Michael Moore, author, activist and winner of the 2002 Oscar for best documentary film, has donated $25,000 to support the ALA Spectrum Initiative. Moore originally pledged this support for Spectrum during a speaking engagement at ALA?s June 2002 Annual Conference in Atlanta.

http://www.ala.org/ala/pressreleases...nermichael.htm

goBigtime · 06-28-2004, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Headless
Some ppl are surely dense...

So true.

You've gone from wondering why Moore, isn't donating 100% of the films proceeds to charity (Since you like playing with dicts, you might look up "capitalisim") , to suggesting that he receives 100% of the box office dollar amounts, to dodging a very similar right-wing comparison ( Rush), and finally to attacking it's classification as a documentry.

directfiesta · 06-28-2004, 03:04 PM

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June 23rd, 2004 12:30 pm
10 CITIES TO HOST BENEFIT SCREENINGS OF FAHRENHEIT 9/11

New York- On Thursday June 24th, 10 cities across the country will host benefit screenings of Academy Award-winning filmmaker Michael Moore's controversial new documentary Fahrenheit 9/11, winner of the coveted Palme d'Or at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival. The film will be shown in New York, San Francisco, Miami, Chicago, Minneapolis, Oklahoma City, Denver, Portland, Boston, and Seattle (all at 7:30 PM local time). All proceeds from the screenings will go to benefit local non-profit organizations such as "September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows" and "Military Families Speak Out."

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/la...ndex.php?id=26

So Headless ( or shitless? ), how much do you give ???/

Or how much Dubya gives ( of his own money ...).... Or to that effect anybody else gives???

Respect the man even if you disagree with his political views.

AndrewKanuck · 06-28-2004, 03:05 PM

Well, I guess directfiesta answered all that, big up.

goBigtime · 06-28-2004, 03:08 PM

However, I remember the lefties were bitching about it's R-rating classification...

I thought that was completely justified after seeing the gorey pictures of the dead and wounded.

directfiesta · 06-28-2004, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
However, I remember the lefties were bitching about it's R-rating classification...

I thought that was completely justified after seeing the gorey pictures of the dead and wounded.

But aren't those clips for the news that were played over and over again???

Oups, sorry, they were probably only showed once, because it is not good for the war to show this.

What was showed over and over again was Jannet's nipple and Howard Dean's scream...

LOL...

dropped9 · 06-28-2004, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse
Think for yourself much do you?

Thats why Ive been downloading it for a few hours now... So

with your comments here and there...

AndrewKanuck · 06-28-2004, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by Headless
Thats why Ive been downloading it for a few hours now... So with your comments here and there...

Did you see the posts about the money that went to charity? That answer you questions now?

goBigtime · 06-28-2004, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
Well, I guess directfiesta answered all that, big up.

Nah man, DF hasn't answered a thing because it's not 100% of the proceeds...

This person who started this thread doesn't understand why Moore isn't giving away 100% of the proceeds to charity.

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Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	you can ask that all the celebs that donate money britney donates 20k for charity.. oh great she has 100 million on his bank others spending 30k for children in africa and they've 50 million.. and then they're all collecting money for their charity actions but they've 100x more on the bank then all the normal ppl donate..

06-28-2004, 02:41 PM	#64
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	A true patriot would have fought for the King instead of the measley 13 upstart colony states. A true patriot would have shot bullets into the people dumping the kings tea into boston harbour. A true american will speak out and stand up for whats right, DESPITE the lemmings spouting garbage in all directions because they're told to. Bush tried to block the congressional 9/11 committee, but when he lost that fight, he still blacked out 28 complete pages believed to have pertained to the Saudi government. Bush tried to also block the bi-partisan 9/11 committee brought on behalf of the victims of 9/11 and their familes. He lost that fight too and still refused to testify under oath. He wouldnt even go on camera. He wouldnt even speak to them alone. He would only speak to them with Cheney there to help him. Corruption stinks! Wheres your backbone?

06-28-2004, 02:46 PM	#71
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	Headless, Michale Moore has already said the motive behind the movie. Whats your point again?

06-28-2004, 02:47 PM	#74
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	I'm sure he donates to charity. He seems to live a pretty simple life to me...I don't see him wearing designer labels or flying around in a private jet. His cars are modest enough...and I'm sure he donates plenty to charity, including his own causes.

06-28-2004, 02:48 PM	#76
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	First it looked like this thread was about why he didnt donate money to familes. Well he does.. Then there was a patriotic issue, well thats clearly BS too as I pointed out. Now what? That the movie makes money? Only because people go to see it! LOL

06-28-2004, 02:51 PM	#81
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	He never claimed it was an objective view of the facts. It's HIS view of the facts. No apologies for it either. Does Fox news apologize for slanted views?

06-28-2004, 02:59 PM	#90
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	AH ok well.. it's been called a documentary by the movie industry itself. They'd have to answer that one. I dont think any of us are more qualified. And some proceeds do go to victims of 9/11. Plenty of sig views though

06-28-2004, 03:08 PM	#96
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	However, I remember the lefties were bitching about it's R-rating classification... I thought that was completely justified after seeing the gorey pictures of the dead and wounded.