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ace0r · 03-19-2001, 05:43 PM

ok, i'm a "young 'un" on this board, but so far im making some pretty nice bank.. so i thought i'd share something because ive seen a lot of posts about free sites..

i run a free-site.. ive been surfing the web looking at a lot of other free sites, and all i see are BaNNers! half the time it takes a minute or 2 just to find the "enter" button.. i feel that pisses people off more than anything.

my warning page has no banners at all.. just 2 text links. "click here if you want free pics sent to your email" and "Click here if you want to join a free site" and those are below my 'enter' button. I used to have banners, but i compared and contrasted stats.. 38% of the people go straight to the "free site" link or "email" links, from my index page, hellova lot more compared to the 29% i got from banners.

now if u run an avs or a paysite, then hey banners for programs that require $ are good..my AP partnership stats are awesome on avs sites.. but if you are running a free site, chances are you'll get low signups..so why not promote freesites and email programs? sites like join4free, pink4free, freeadults. Don't link banners directly to the sponsor. Use their banners and send the traffic to a "instructions" page first thats on your site(sponsors dont mind, just ask them first).. on the "instructions page"say some shit like "Hey if you want an awesome free site, just go to the banner below, its simple, you don't need credit cards and nothing to download, just put in your email pick a password and username and go check your email and you will get a password" then have a banner link to the sponsor. lotta surfers are just fucking stupid, and having an instructions page will help a great deal. My pink4free is converting at 1:3, join4free is at 1:4 and free adults is at 1:7.. by using the instructions page.

now lets say your banners to sponsors are converting at 1:400 on your free site.. depending on your sponsor, the highest you'll get is maybe 50-60$.. send that same 400 to join4free, convert at 1:4 and you'll pocket 100$, thats an easy 50-60$ extra compared to the paysite.. and depending on the amount of traffic you get, that extra amount can really multiply and add up..

now for the email programs, i prefer sexfiles, gammae or CE.. just have like 10-15 thumbnails of some hot ass girl (or guy if ure gay) 'hey do you want some fullsized pics like these sent to your email for FREE? just hop on our email list and check your mail" so thats an easy 75cents to 1$ (depending on your sponsor).... AND then just put a body onunload="window.open('http://instructionspageurl')" so that once they signup to a email program and leave the page, BaM they get sent to the instruction page for the freesite and maybe they'll signup for the freesite also, meaning u just made 1-2$ off that one surfer.. and also, dont 'put all your eggs in one basket' for the 'free porn sites' just have a random banner show up, chances are a return surfer wont get the same banner/sponsor, meaning u can make more $ off the same guy. (if you want a javascript just let me know and ill hook you up with a good one)

wow i typed alot, well i hope some of my info helps you, because this little method is working wonders for me, thought i'd share a little.. peaaaaaaaaceeeeeee ouuuuuuuuuut!

[This message has been edited by ace0r (edited 03-23-2001).]

ace0r · 03-19-2001, 05:48 PM

oh and for the rest of your page, try to use free site links, because hey, freesite surfers want free shit.. emailboxes here and there, and links to your instructions page.. just dont over-do it cuz it pisses them offffffff

Tanker · 03-19-2001, 09:17 PM

Excellent advice

Tanker

Poizon · 03-20-2001, 02:20 AM

Very interesting. Hey ace0r could you e-mail me, I would like to discuss something with you. If you got time. Hope everything keeps going good for you.

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Mikey · 03-20-2001, 02:44 AM

Good idea.

I laughed when I read

Quote:

just have like 10-15 thumbnails of some hot ass girl (or guy if ure gay)

Spunds like something I would say.

drunkenasshole · 03-20-2001, 09:07 AM

ace0r, there are a lot of greedy people out there that wouldnt share that kinda info.. all i want to say is thanks bro!!!

i switched over all my join4free traffic to get sent to the instructions page first.... all month i was averaging 1:11, today i'm at 1:6

Giorgio · 03-20-2001, 10:30 AM

Its people like you that kick ass! Thankyou for the help, i really apprieciate it

Could i see your site please?

Adam

xApster · 03-20-2001, 11:25 AM

ace0r can you hit me up on icq? Just got a quick question

5676610 or email [email protected]

Jer · 03-20-2001, 11:34 AM

All I can say is THANK YOU ace0r

Jer

HQ · 03-20-2001, 12:49 PM

you rock ace0r. very good points indeed.

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HQ

drunkenasshole · 03-20-2001, 09:16 PM

ok, last night i switched all my topcash banners to a join4free 'instructions page' after reading this.. and wow, ace0r, where exactly in chicago because i want to buy you a couple rounds.. the day isnt even over yet, and so far i pulled in 140$ more than any other FULL day this month, join4free is at 1:6 with 301 signups.. DAMN bro good looking out! My j4f was usually at 1:12

ace0r · 03-20-2001, 10:12 PM

no problem, just sharing the wealth

..
drunken-i live downtown for now north shore, and we're building a house out in a tiny town called inverness,about 30 mins from the city (most chicago people never heard of it!) broke ground 2 weeks ago, should be wrapped up by august. where are you located in chicago?

Mikey · 03-20-2001, 11:02 PM

Damn, Inverness dude. You must really be raking in the $$$. I grew up in Barrington, my folks still live there. I live in downtown Chicago now.

ace0r · 03-20-2001, 11:37 PM

hey mikey, what hs did u go to?? i grew up in hoffman estates... small world.

[This message has been edited by ace0r (edited 03-20-2001).]

Mikey · 03-21-2001, 12:57 AM

I went to Barrington High School.

ace0r · 03-21-2001, 01:00 AM

fremd '98 here.

Mikey · 03-21-2001, 02:05 AM

I was class of '87 - Arlington Park Racetrack campus

Mikey · 03-21-2001, 02:08 AM

Oops at that time it was Arlington Intertrack campus. Then it was Harper during the summer.

03-19-2001, 05:43 PM	#1
ace0r Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Calabasa, CA & Chicago, IL Posts: 1,410	for free site owners.. ok, i'm a "young 'un" on this board, but so far im making some pretty nice bank.. so i thought i'd share something because ive seen a lot of posts about free sites.. i run a free-site.. ive been surfing the web looking at a lot of other free sites, and all i see are BaNNers! half the time it takes a minute or 2 just to find the "enter" button.. i feel that pisses people off more than anything. my warning page has no banners at all.. just 2 text links. "click here if you want free pics sent to your email" and "Click here if you want to join a free site" and those are below my 'enter' button. I used to have banners, but i compared and contrasted stats.. 38% of the people go straight to the "free site" link or "email" links, from my index page, hellova lot more compared to the 29% i got from banners. now if u run an avs or a paysite, then hey banners for programs that require $ are good..my AP partnership stats are awesome on avs sites.. but if you are running a free site, chances are you'll get low signups..so why not promote freesites and email programs? sites like join4free, pink4free, freeadults. Don't link banners directly to the sponsor. Use their banners and send the traffic to a "instructions" page first thats on your site(sponsors dont mind, just ask them first).. on the "instructions page"say some shit like "Hey if you want an awesome free site, just go to the banner below, its simple, you don't need credit cards and nothing to download, just put in your email pick a password and username and go check your email and you will get a password" then have a banner link to the sponsor. lotta surfers are just fucking stupid, and having an instructions page will help a great deal. My pink4free is converting at 1:3, join4free is at 1:4 and free adults is at 1:7.. by using the instructions page. now lets say your banners to sponsors are converting at 1:400 on your free site.. depending on your sponsor, the highest you'll get is maybe 50-60$.. send that same 400 to join4free, convert at 1:4 and you'll pocket 100$, thats an easy 50-60$ extra compared to the paysite.. and depending on the amount of traffic you get, that extra amount can really multiply and add up.. now for the email programs, i prefer sexfiles, gammae or CE.. just have like 10-15 thumbnails of some hot ass girl (or guy if ure gay) 'hey do you want some fullsized pics like these sent to your email for FREE? just hop on our email list and check your mail" so thats an easy 75cents to 1$ (depending on your sponsor).... AND then just put a body onunload="window.open('http://instructionspageurl')" so that once they signup to a email program and leave the page, BaM they get sent to the instruction page for the freesite and maybe they'll signup for the freesite also, meaning u just made 1-2$ off that one surfer.. and also, dont 'put all your eggs in one basket' for the 'free porn sites' just have a random banner show up, chances are a return surfer wont get the same banner/sponsor, meaning u can make more $ off the same guy. (if you want a javascript just let me know and ill hook you up with a good one) wow i typed alot, well i hope some of my info helps you, because this little method is working wonders for me, thought i'd share a little.. peaaaaaaaaceeeeeee ouuuuuuuuuut! [This message has been edited by ace0r (edited 03-23-2001).]

03-19-2001, 05:48 PM	#2
ace0r Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Calabasa, CA & Chicago, IL Posts: 1,410	oh and for the rest of your page, try to use free site links, because hey, freesite surfers want free shit.. emailboxes here and there, and links to your instructions page.. just dont over-do it cuz it pisses them offffffff

03-19-2001, 09:17 PM	#3
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	Excellent advice Tanker

03-20-2001, 02:20 AM	#4
Poizon Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Smilyville, USA Posts: 157	Very interesting. Hey ace0r could you e-mail me, I would like to discuss something with you. If you got time. Hope everything keeps going good for you. ------------------ Poizon [email protected] ICQ-84284401--I'm currently [This message has been edited by Poizon (edited 03-20-2001).]

03-20-2001, 09:07 AM	#6
drunkenasshole Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: between buttcheeeks Posts: 33	ace0r, there are a lot of greedy people out there that wouldnt share that kinda info.. all i want to say is thanks bro!!! i switched over all my join4free traffic to get sent to the instructions page first.... all month i was averaging 1:11, today i'm at 1:6

03-20-2001, 10:30 AM	#7
Giorgio Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Posts: 32	Its people like you that kick ass! Thankyou for the help, i really apprieciate it Could i see your site please? Adam

03-20-2001, 11:25 AM	#8
xApster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,188	ace0r can you hit me up on icq? Just got a quick question 5676610 or email [email protected]

03-20-2001, 11:34 AM	#9
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	All I can say is THANK YOU ace0r Jer

03-20-2001, 12:49 PM	#10
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	you rock ace0r. very good points indeed. ------------------ HQ

03-20-2001, 09:16 PM	#11
drunkenasshole Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: between buttcheeeks Posts: 33	ok, last night i switched all my topcash banners to a join4free 'instructions page' after reading this.. and wow, ace0r, where exactly in chicago because i want to buy you a couple rounds.. the day isnt even over yet, and so far i pulled in 140$ more than any other FULL day this month, join4free is at 1:6 with 301 signups.. DAMN bro good looking out! My j4f was usually at 1:12

03-20-2001, 10:12 PM	#12
ace0r Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Calabasa, CA & Chicago, IL Posts: 1,410	no problem, just sharing the wealth .. drunken-i live downtown for now north shore, and we're building a house out in a tiny town called inverness,about 30 mins from the city (most chicago people never heard of it!) broke ground 2 weeks ago, should be wrapped up by august. where are you located in chicago?

03-20-2001, 11:02 PM	#13
Mikey Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 665	Damn, Inverness dude. You must really be raking in the $$$. I grew up in Barrington, my folks still live there. I live in downtown Chicago now.

03-20-2001, 11:37 PM	#14
ace0r Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Calabasa, CA & Chicago, IL Posts: 1,410	hey mikey, what hs did u go to?? i grew up in hoffman estates... small world. [This message has been edited by ace0r (edited 03-20-2001).]

03-21-2001, 12:57 AM	#15
Mikey Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 665	I went to Barrington High School.

03-21-2001, 01:00 AM	#16
ace0r Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Calabasa, CA & Chicago, IL Posts: 1,410	fremd '98 here.

03-21-2001, 02:05 AM	#17
Mikey Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 665	I was class of '87 - Arlington Park Racetrack campus

03-21-2001, 02:08 AM	#18
Mikey Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 665	Oops at that time it was Arlington Intertrack campus. Then it was Harper during the summer.