Assuming a "traditional" war, I have to agree. Once the Japanese take Hawaii, then they can move into South America as well for their launch stations. From the east and north are also several key logistical military bases, including the nuclear sub base in Esquimalt and that kind of thing. It wouldn't be pretty, but I don't see the US holding out for long, ESPECIALLY considering their high foreign population percentage. Think of all the sleeper cells already inside the country.

If there was no just cause for the war... no one wins.

http://www.thumbwhore.com/NoBush.jpg :thumbsup

since years China is flooding the arms market with cheap copies of popular guns like the Colt Government (look for Norinco, to name just one of their brands) - those guns could just as easily be handed out to their own army instead. i don't think they'd expereince big problems to supply enough arms.

link to Norinco data: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as39-e.htm

if memory serves, Japan wanted to give up, the US ddin't accept the offer though.

of course the 'promotion' for nukes and their power would have been less impressive with tests only, so the move is somehow understandable, from the US POV.

Ever heard of ICBM's...Cruise Missiles...etc all with Multiple Targeted Warheads. Our Nuclear Subs are armed with enough missiles with Multi Targeted Warheads to destroy every major population center on the earth. You mentioned "cities" and "army bases"...but you left off...nukes can prevent the massing of a Field Army...nukes can prevent the invasion of the US because the worlds combined Navies cannot mass their Navy for an invasion.

The rest of the world would win EZ ... they cannot even defeat vietnam and irak ... lol

No doubt things would be fucked up...but their probably would not be a "Nuclear Winter". Scientists have never came to a cosensus about "Nuclear Winter"...to the best of my knowledge.

Wrong on both counts.

irak huh? :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh Nice little gify

They never came to a consensus about the original calculations on it, actually, in other words what the effects would be. The nuclear winter itself, however, is considered very probable, and almost certainly devastating. Exactly how devastating is what they aren't sure about.

This is quite possibly the stupidest post I have read this year.. and shockingly it's not by Creative!

Congrats! :thumbsup

Who you callin' stupid?

DUH?? Little doubt, whether nuclear or not, "the world" would win - if you can think of that as "winning".

What a fucking stupid question. :uhoh

"the world" no contest. You're not talking shitty third world countries here you're talking advanced western nations every bit as advanced (most new projects are multinational)..
America wouldn't lay down and roll over, and would exact an incredibly heavy toll on the invaders but it's inevitable.. theres just too much force and capability when you combine everyone up.. it's an unfair comparison.

vs how many gun owners in the US? :Graucho not that US would win against the world but we'd do some serious fucking carnage, i bet the chinese would avoid texas like it has herpes.

The US has so much sophisticated advanced biowarfare stuff developed at Ft. Detrick's USAMRIID unit that can take out an entire country's population without them even knowing they've been infected.

KRL:

The problem with that is every asshole and his dog has a similar capability - bio is "easy" to play with and many countries have been playing that game from WW2. Even small "extremists" - call them today's terrorists, have a measure of this power.

It's better not to think about it and hope nobody is unbalanced enough to even consider it! :winkwink:

Russia and China are no different.

If ya think the US would take on the world without Nukes your crazy. If we have to defend ourselves against the rest of the world you will see the missiles a flyin