Solo Girl sites, how much content is enough? (pics)

[Paul Markham]

We found some pretty good girls recently.





And had an enquiry from someone thinking about starting up a solo girl site with them, we've already shot them solo, together and with their boyfriends.

So how much content is enough for a solo girl site?

[MandyBlake]

I remember seeing the first pic before here.
The amount of content I always suggest to chicks asking me about starting their own sites is: at least 1000 pics, 10-15 video clips, and some extra content.
I AM working in a different niche than these girls though. So maybe you'd want to triple that number?

[imageman]

5000-10,000 images with about 50 video clips seems to satisfy most surfers and is a good starting point especially if the membership price is $25-$29.00.

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by MandyBlake
I remember seeing the first pic before here.
The amount of content I always suggest to chicks asking me about starting their own sites is: at least 1000 pics, 10-15 video clips, and some extra content.
I AM working in a different niche than these girls though. So maybe you'd want to triple that number?

Yes none of the stuff we've shot is really ready yet, shooting both girls for magazines first, but wanted to show the girls so you could get an idea of the quality.

The first one is the best looking and the best model, but the second one is good and did a nice B/G set.





Will have way over 1,000 pics of them and probably 10-15 15 to 20 minute videos of them as well. But will shoot a bit more to be safe.

[brothenberg]

nice, hookdick....

[Porn4abuck]

Need a good 25-30 sets to open. Sets of 75-100 pics are great and they should have 10-15 videos with about 5-10 minutes of play time each.

Then, if you like most update every week you should have another 50-70 sets on hand and at least 12 more videos. That should get you through the first year.

Stock up on content though. Solo site models flake hardcore. To play it safe you might want to think about doubling the numbers above.

Ronnie

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by imageman
5000-10,000 images with about 50 video clips seems to satisfy most surfers and is a good starting point especially if the membership price is $25-$29.00.

Thats a lot more than I was thinking.

What if they link the two sites together, via the sets/videos where they are fucking eachother, and charge one price for the two sites?

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by Porn4abuck
Need a good 25-30 sets to open. Sets of 75-100 pics are great and they should have 10-15 videos with about 5-10 minutes of play time each.

Then, if you like most update every week you should have another 50-70 sets on hand and at least 12 more videos. That should get you through the first year.

Stock up on content though. Solo site models flake hardcore. To play it safe you might want to think about doubling the numbers above.

Ronnie

Not sure I could shoot the same girl that many times without strangling her. Definitely the white blonde, but even the other who is a real cutie I think it would get to me. Eva can shoot her.

[Porn4abuck]

Thats a lot more than I was thinking.

Right, you can build the site to have that amount of content over time, but the whole idea of a solo site is to engauge the surfer and weekly updates do just that. So starting with 25 sets or so and 10 video clips is about perfect. Once the surfer see the steady updates he will be hooked.

I think his number was good, but for the close of the first year.

[Porn4abuck]

Not sure I could shoot the same girl that many times without strangling her. Definitely the white blonde, but even the other who is a real cutie I think it would get to me. Eva can shoot her.

Charly... haha Let me just tell ya.

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by Porn4abuck
Charly... haha Let me just tell ya.

I know it's a bind shooting the same girl time after time after time. They aslo can get the idea you need them more than they need you.

I think the most we ever shot a girl here was 15 times. And she was Eva and my GF, had a good reason to like her.

I will tell my client, 10 days, 6 sets and 4 videos a day plus all we have of her already.

No one picked up on my idea of linking the two sites via the sets where theye fucked each other. Would that work???

[Porn4abuck]

No one picked up on my idea of linking the two sites via the sets where theye fucked each other. Would that work???

Not seeing why someone would want to do that. If you had enough sets to open two sites, why not just upsell the second site as her "friend"? You can upsell on the joinpage, members area and exits. No sense getting one signup when you can grab two.

Combining them into one site might be ok, but both of these girls seem strong enough to carry their own sites. If they dont have a ton of content just make it a 19.95 join or something with a 4.95 3 day trial to the second site. If the upsell converts into a full sale, thats a 45.00 signup. That would work.

[Lykos]

First enough looks awesome

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by Porn4abuck
Not seeing why someone would want to do that. If you had enough sets to open two sites, why not just upsell the second site as her "friend"? You can upsell on the joinpage, members area and exits. No sense getting one signup when you can grab two.

Combining them into one site might be ok, but both of these girls seem strong enough to carry their own sites. If they dont have a ton of content just make it a 19.95 join or something with a 4.95 3 day trial to the second site. If the upsell converts into a full sale, thats a 45.00 signup. That would work.

Just thought of it to give the site extra value.

[Jill_J]

both girls are cute

[RRACY]

Originally posted by charly
Thats a lot more than I was thinking.

What if they link the two sites together, via the sets/videos where they are fucking eachother, and charge one price for the two sites?

Charly, this is a very good idea especially with girls of this caliber. Each site can be promoted on its own and the member will have one more reason not to cancel right away. If these sites were produced by decent photogs instead of guys who don't know how to use autofocus their retention would be better.

[Porn4abuck]

Charly, this is a very good idea especially with girls of this caliber. Each site can be promoted on its own and the member will have one more reason not to cancel right away.

Maybe, but the solo site surfer typically would only interested in one of the girls anyways. If a second site was offered as an upsell (part of a program chain) his overall revenue would increase by a bit over double and the retention is nearly 40% higher on sites that offer upsells based on the history with ours.

Solo sites are kinda like a cd put out by your favorite group. You never really know what song is going to be the "hit" before its released. It seems to me that the more solo sites you offer in chain increases the chances on a hit. Then, if the site does less then expected you still have tons of options such as upsells and members area sharing and feeder traffic for other solo sites in your chain.

[TheWildcard]

Damn, those girls are hot!

[frank7799]

Originally posted by charly
I know it's a bind shooting the same girl time after time after time. They aslo can get the idea you need them more than they need you.

I think the most we ever shot a girl here was 15 times. And she was Eva and my GF, had a good reason to like her.

I will tell my client, 10 days, 6 sets and 4 videos a day plus all we have of her already.

No one picked up on my idea of linking the two sites via the sets where theye fucked each other. Would that work???

Maybe it does. But htink of the surfer. He wants to join "his" girl and if he is offered another one maybe that relationship doesn´t work. I was running a site with two girls which worked quite good, but the site was done for both girls right from the beginning. I´m not sure if the special offer which you are thinking of will.

Is that one girl Veronika?

[Makingcoin]

Some great info in here boys

Thanks

[latinasojourn]

Originally posted by imageman
5000-10,000 images with about 50 video clips seems to satisfy most surfers and is a good starting point especially if the membership price is $25-$29.00.

way overkill.

if all you have is 5000-10K total pix and 50 vid clips you maximize your ROI by putting them on a content management script and start with 2000 pix and 10 vids, and weekly update to the next 2000 pix, next 10 vids, so that you work thru all your avail inventory over 60-90 days (which will be average retention).

use java scripts to automatically change your tour daily, or upon each refresh.

criteria should be quality, not quantity.

i.e.:

wifeysworld.com, etc.

[latinasojourn]

another point often overlooked.

know where your surfers are coming from.

if it is north america male models should be circumcized for best conversions.

if euro is your market, males should be uncircumcized.

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by m4yadult


Is that one girl Veronika?

Yes.

Thanks again for the info, could see a solo site being a lot of trouble for us and puts the girl in control. If she decides she wants more money you're fucked.

[gornyhuy]

More pics are needed in this thread to give you any real feedback.

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by gornyhuy
More pics are needed in this thread to give you any real feedback.

OK





Will have some more of the other girl Monday. We shot them both together for a custom/exclusive client Friday. Don't know if I should post his pics here.

[Ar3s]

HOT HOT

[Tania]

they are cute both

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by Tania
they are cute both

Did you expect anything less from us??

[jayeff]

They are cute looking girls, but I wouldn't use them as is for solo sites. Take that last pic: she has two vibrators in her, but to look at the expression on her face, you would think she was posing for her year book. The near-oral shot higher up is the same: just too stiff (no pun intended) and posed.

At least based on this (admittedly small) selection of pics, there is no real action or passion evident. I would expect surfers to get bored with them very quickly.

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by charly
Not sure I could shoot the same girl that many times without strangling her... I think it would get to me.

Luckilly... I only have to shoot em once - and you hit the reason right on the head!

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by jayeff
They are cute looking girls, but I wouldn't use them as is for solo sites. Take that last pic: she has two vibrators in her, but to look at the expression on her face, you would think she was posing for her year book. The near-oral shot higher up is the same: just too stiff (no pun intended) and posed.

At least based on this (admittedly small) selection of pics, there is no real action or passion evident. I would expect surfers to get bored with them very quickly.

Yes I can see what you mean.

I went to your site and saw what you meant by stiff posing and a lack of action on your tour pages. Your site would send a stiff one limp any time.

Also please warn people you run pop up hell from your sites.

[tony286]

Pics are real cute but for solo girl sites , the surfer wants someone who is real that they can bond to.

[bluff]

Originally posted by imageman
5000-10,000 images with about 50 video clips seems to satisfy most surfers and is a good starting point especially if the membership price is $25-$29.00.

you'd be surprised what TripleXCash expects their LittleApril members to be happy with... (like 20 sets being rotated all the time)