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|  06-25-2004, 09:10 AM | #1 | 
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				Schwarzenegger: State's stray animals should die sooner
			 this is what my puppy has to say    ---------------------------------------------------------- Friday, June 25, 2004 Posted: 11:34 AM EDT (1534 GMT) SACRAMENTO, California (AP) -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to repeal a state law that requires animal shelters to hold stray dogs and cats for up to six days before killing them. Instead, there would be a three-day requirement for strays. Other animals, including birds, hamsters, potbellied pigs, rabbits, snakes and turtles, could be killed immediately. Schwarzenegger has told the state Legislature that the changes could save local governments that operate shelters up to $14 million. An estimated 600,000 dogs and cats are put to death each year in California, including 34,000 in Los Angeles alone. The waiting period has caused overcrowding and forced some shelters to kill off animals simply to make room for new ones, said H.D. Palmer, a spokesman for the state Department of Finance. "Because of space limitations, the shelters are being forced to euthanize animals who are otherwise highly adoptable immediately after the holding time," Palmer said. Despite Schwarzenegger's huge popularity, some political observers think the proposal will meet stiff resistance. "There is no organized constituency of cats and dogs, but certainly the pet owners of America will find this reprehensible," said Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the Study of Politics and Media at California State University, Sacramento. "Cats and dogs are like mom and apple pie," she said. "Don't mess with the pets. Most people prefer them to other people." The 1998 law is named for former state Sen. Tom Hayden, who said the governor's proposal "will inflict heartbreak on a lot of owners and people in the animal adoption world." | 
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|  06-25-2004, 09:14 AM | #2 | 
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				 | "An estimated 600,000 dogs and cats are put to death each year in California" WOW | 
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|  06-25-2004, 09:18 AM | #3 | 
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				 | Schwarzenegger, should shut the f*** up. | 
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|  06-25-2004, 09:18 AM | #4 | 
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|  06-25-2004, 09:19 AM | #5 | 
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				 | Its that Germanic need to put things to death lol. | 
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|  06-25-2004, 09:21 AM | #6 | 
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				 | meh..  they should be microchipped like in Australia. $20 and painless.. you'll never have your pet put down. | 
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|  06-25-2004, 09:23 AM | #7 | |
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|  06-25-2004, 09:23 AM | #8 | 
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				 | this will surely put Arnie in the hot seat esp. from animal lovers... an eye cather for an inexperienced politician | 
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|  06-25-2004, 09:24 AM | #9 | 
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				 | I love Schwarzenegger   
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|  06-25-2004, 09:25 AM | #11 | 
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				 | I mean really.. how long can you expect the govenment to take care of your pet for you? and you want to pay less tax at the same time. | 
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|  06-25-2004, 09:26 AM | #12 | |
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|  06-25-2004, 09:29 AM | #13 | 
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				 | Funny I don't see anyone actually coming up with a counter-plan though. Notice no one is stepping up and offering a way to keep the stray dogs and cats alive longer? People will bitch and whine and fuss about this but heaven forbid they form an organization that can accept the strays and keep them alive for longer. And why are there so many strays in the first place? Oh that's right.... mostly useless pet owners who "thought" they could handle a dog etc but let it get away. People who care about their pet look aggressively for it and only a few hours or a day passes before they pick it up from the animal shelter. It would be a cold day in hell before I'd let my dog stay in a shelter for more time than that. And lastly, ... it's a proposal. Arnie is looking for ways to save the state some money, which is partly why he was elected. If there is too much resistance I'm sure the guy will do the right thing and retract the proposal, because he's a pretty decent guy when you get right down to it. Maybe the people who need to "STFU" are right here on this thread? 
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|  06-25-2004, 09:40 AM | #14 | |
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|  06-25-2004, 09:42 AM | #15 | |
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|  06-25-2004, 09:57 AM | #16 | 
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				 | That puppy is pimp! What breed is it? | 
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|  06-25-2004, 09:59 AM | #17 | |
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 Cool Pup! | |
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|  06-25-2004, 10:02 AM | #18 | 
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				 | OMG what a cute puppy! | 
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|  06-25-2004, 10:08 AM | #19 | |
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 If the owners really did care they would put a microchip in the animal and THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEM with this. 
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|  06-25-2004, 10:14 AM | #20 | 
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				 | HAHA. Its arnolds fault that idiots in society can't take care of their own pets.  Shit.... | 
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|  06-25-2004, 10:14 AM | #21 | 
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				 | Isn't the real issue all those fuckers that put animals on the streets and let them loose! If you love animals you don't get a pet and then realize you can't take care of him. | 
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|  06-25-2004, 10:24 AM | #22 | |
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 Apparently it was chipped at PetCo's vet service and the chips they use are not compatible with the scanners at most vet and shelter offices in the US. I am paranoid about someone "borrowing" my dog. I don't know if I'd remember how to type without her sitting just above the keyboard, trying to help.  
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|  06-25-2004, 10:26 AM | #23 | 
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|  06-25-2004, 10:37 AM | #24 | |
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|  06-25-2004, 11:19 AM | #26 | |
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|  06-25-2004, 12:23 PM | #27 | 
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				 | this thread deserves a late night bump for all pet loving owners in Calif. area   | 
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|  06-25-2004, 12:32 PM | #28 | 
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				 | Does it really make him a bad person by changing it from 6 days to 3 days? He's saving tax payers 14 million.  Is the person that originally set the restriction to 6 days a saint for extending an animal's life by a measly 3 days? | 
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|  06-25-2004, 01:03 PM | #30 | 
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				 | <i>"Because of space limitations, the shelters are being forced to euthanize animals who are otherwise highly adoptable immediately after the holding time," Palmer said.</i> I'm against the pet killing thing period, but if you're gonna do it anyway, this change would actually <b>save</b> lives. | 
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|  06-25-2004, 01:41 PM | #31 | 
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				 | let's just put him and his tranny wife to sleep 
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|  06-25-2004, 02:08 PM | #32 | 
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				 | I agree with this, the animals are going to be dead in a few days anyways, and with the overcrowding, most of them don't even make it that far to begin with. Plus, finding ways to save a few million is why Californians elected the man in the first place right? | 
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|  06-25-2004, 02:13 PM | #33 | 
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|  06-25-2004, 03:01 PM | #36 | 
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				 | lol the puppy looks like it is about to bite your balls offf. 
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     close, but his name is "Frodo" | |
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|  06-25-2004, 04:59 PM | #39 | 
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				 | Incredibly sad to see 600,000 dogs and cats are killed every year in California alone.  A lot of that would go away if people just remembered to spade or neuter their pets. (simple math: 6,000,000 in ten years - that's a lot of fucking cats and dogs!) 
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