Scott McD

Fiddy sick people !!

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BustIt

Jah.

Tom_PMs

So today bush says that "the idea is to spread democracy *and* secure our nation".

No terrorists tied to 9/11? No nukes? No WMDs?
Just to spread democracy in the region?

Do yourselves a favor and look up the wolfowitz plan which was proposed during the Reagan administration. Surprise surprise. It's a plan to invade iraq, topple the leader, and spread democracy in the region..

Opportunity knocks.

Buck Fush!

Scootermuze

Someone apparently missed Kennedy's plea.. or demand... To paraphrase.. "You sent our children over there under false pretenses.. Now it's time to bring them back home.. How long Mr. President? How long before you decide to bring our kids back home??"

STiNKyMeAT

Last I checked we lived in a Democracy, and in a Democracy peopel are supposed to challenge views, especially those of the government. That's what makes our country great. Alot of you sound like you want to live in Nazi Germany.

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Webby

You said it!

There is a lot of Nazi Germany around - it's a disease after being indocrinated by "we are on the side of the righteous" (ain't we all?) and this misuse of the idea of "patriotism" and "un-American". WTF is "un-American"?? I've never yet seen how being "American" is any different to being "Icelandic". It's a matter of either right or wrong and applies to all countries, not just "America".

Some are taught to "hate" - it's no better than extremist organisations - yet still use the term "US hater" - strange!

Can't say I "hate" anyone, even dumbasses from Kentucky to Bangladesh - we all have an "opionion"

spanky part 2

I think it's funny that you fucks are all talking shit about the movie and haven't seen it.

I saw it on the first matinee this morning.

The movie was slanted, but I also think it could have been a lot worse. In fact I think he did a good job of holding back.

So to all those Bush lovers, go fuck yourself and send your own goddamn kids over there.

I want my kids to live in a safe world, not just a safe country.

Going into Iraq because of 9-11, is like slapping your neighbors wife because your own wife pissed you off.

ZanyCash Larry

You and Bush

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BustIt

Sounds like you have it all figured out Spanky.

How many drafts did you go through to get to that finished product?

Maybe you could take Moore's place at the next Telluride debate with Hitchens.

spanky part 2

Go fuck yourself. I have a little different perspective, having lived 2 blocks from the world trade center.

You see what I did that day, and run for your life holding your 6 month old in your arms, then come talk to me.

Bush is a fucking idiot. Simple fact is 9-11 happened on his watch. Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with it. Now kids are getting killed every day in Iraq, both US and Iraqi.

Get your head out of your republican ass long enough, to look around and see what Iraq did to us.

Absolutely nothing.

But i'm sure you have it all figured out, and can tell me your great perspective from your trailer park.

BustIt

Moore's ass is big enough for many heads, including apparently yours.


It is a simple fact, but it doesn't follow that he was therefore completely responsible. There was another president right before him, Bill Clinton, who gave up many chances to nab Bin Laden.

You didn't enjoy the WTC disaster and having to run for your life? Did you know Clinton refused an offer by the Sudanese to have Bin Laden handed over to him? Bill could have had Osama then, but he said no. So Bin Laden remained out there to plan 9/11.

The 9/11 commission has laid the blame for 9/11 no more on Bush than on Clinton.

The Democrats had completely fucked up our intelligence services. See the Jamie Gorelick memo to Janet Reno that effectively put up a wall that prevented the necessary sharing of info between agencies.

I see you just swallowed Massive Moore's premise that Iraq was a completely innocent nation. Here is Hitchen's refutation of that FALSE premise: (it is written on a higher level than your newspaper):

***That this?his pro-American moment?was the worst Moore could possibly say of Saddam's depravity is further suggested by some astonishing falsifications. Moore asserts that Iraq under Saddam had never attacked or killed or even threatened (his words) any American. I never quite know whether Moore is as ignorant as he looks, or even if that would be humanly possible. Baghdad was for years the official, undisguised home address of Abu Nidal, then the most-wanted gangster in the world, who had been sentenced to death even by the PLO and had blown up airports in Vienna* and Rome. Baghdad was the safe house for the man whose "operation" murdered Leon Klinghoffer. Saddam boasted publicly of his financial sponsorship of suicide bombers in Israel. (Quite a few Americans of all denominations walk the streets of Jerusalem.) In 1991, a large number of Western hostages were taken by the hideous Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and held in terrible conditions for a long time. After that same invasion was repelled?Saddam having killed quite a few Americans and Egyptians and Syrians and Brits in the meantime and having threatened to kill many more?the Iraqi secret police were caught trying to murder former President Bush during his visit to Kuwait. Never mind whether his son should take that personally. (Though why should he not?) Should you and I not resent any foreign dictatorship that attempts to kill one of our retired chief executives? (President Clinton certainly took it that way: He ordered the destruction by cruise missiles of the Baathist "security" headquarters.) Iraqi forces fired, every day, for 10 years, on the aircraft that patrolled the no-fly zones and staved off further genocide in the north and south of the country. In 1993, a certain Mr. Yasin helped mix the chemicals for the bomb at the World Trade Center and then skipped to Iraq, where he remained a guest of the state until the overthrow of Saddam. In 2001, Saddam's regime was the only one in the region that openly celebrated the attacks on New York and Washington and described them as just the beginning of a larger revenge. Its official media regularly spewed out a stream of anti-Semitic incitement. I think one might describe that as "threatening," even if one was narrow enough to think that anti-Semitism only menaces Jews. And it was after, and not before, the 9/11 attacks that Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi moved from Afghanistan to Baghdad and began to plan his now very open and lethal design for a holy and ethnic civil war. On Dec. 1, 2003, the New York Times reported?and the David Kay report had established?that Saddam had been secretly negotiating with the "Dear Leader" Kim Jong-il in a series of secret meetings in Syria, as late as the spring of 2003, to buy a North Korean missile system, and missile-production system, right off the shelf. (This attempt was not uncovered until after the fall of Baghdad, the coalition's presence having meanwhile put an end to the negotiations.)****