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OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 09:27 PM

Are these guys for real? This is something I should've been told BEFORE I signed up and transfered my domains over to their servers.

Stupid.

Quote:

########## Begin Message ##########
Hello,
I've added xxxxx.com to your FTP. Regarding SSH, We require
you to fax in a copy of your drivers license to 516-938-5100 with this
ticket # to be approved for SSH access.

Please let me know if you need anything else.

Thanks,

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Sagi Brody
Webair Internet Development, Inc.
Phone: 1 866 WEBAIR 1
Fax: 516.938.5100
http://www.webair.com
[email protected]
AIM: webairsagi
ICQ: 146240554
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Abyss_Vee · 06-24-2004, 09:31 PM

never happened to me

Fukeneh · 06-24-2004, 09:33 PM

i lease whole servers and they sure kick ass for me. and iv never had to fax shit for root access even, let alone SSH.

however jupiter on the other hand wanted me to fax shit just to pay with credit card, after i had done so numerous times in the past.

i webair!

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 09:34 PM

I seriously hope this is a joke.

I tar/gziped my sites from my previous host and FTP into webair.

I can't uncompress my web content without SSH! Are these guys retarded?

rdunn404 · 06-24-2004, 09:35 PM

Is this a dedicated server or virtual?

Fabuleux · 06-24-2004, 09:35 PM

Sounds like they don't know how set configure a safe SSH shell.

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fukeneh
however jupiter on the other hand wanted me to fax shit just to pay with credit card, after i had done so numerous times in the past.

that's understandable for credit card processing. but SSH access? give me a break!

StuartD · 06-24-2004, 09:35 PM

I think this is going to be very amusing.

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by rdunn404
Is this a dedicated server or virtual?

virtual!

good thing i'm drunk so i can laugh it off!

tomorrow might not seem so funny, though.

Linguist · 06-24-2004, 09:37 PM

You can scan it, and send it in, takes 15 mins for them to activate it. That's less time than its gonna take you to bitch them out

Or you can ask tech support to untar it?

is it virtual or dedicated acct btw?

Edit: I wouldn't even start bitching if its a virtual account. If I were them, I wouldn't want to give SSH access to just anyone either.

Illicit · 06-24-2004, 09:38 PM

oh they are serious... they did the same thing to me...

I was like, wtf, your not worried about who I am when you charge my credit card every month

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by Sjelefall
Or you can ask tech support to untar it?

is it virtual or dedicated acct btw?

I realize I can ask them. But since when does anyone ask for SSH access verification. How convinient for them to not have to verify before they charge my credit card.

DNS switch has started propagating throughout the net, and my sites are showing up with a empty "Directory Listing of /"

Ash@phpFX · 06-24-2004, 09:41 PM

it is a pain in the arse, but if its a vitual account i can understand where they are coming from, someone could easily fuck up a whole server and they would want to know exactly who it is

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by ajpiii
oh they are serious... they did the same thing to me...

I was like, wtf, your not worried about who I am when you charge my credit card every month

Seriously??? This is fucking ridiculous!

I'm finding a new host immidiately.

What a waste of my time...

Linguist · 06-24-2004, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OFFBEAT
I realize I can ask them. But since when does anyone ask for SSH access verification. How convinient for them to not have to verify before they charge my credit card.

DNS switch has started propagating throughout the net, and my sites are showing up with a empty "Directory Listing of /"

*shrug* does it matter though? just scan it in, and send to one of the online support people. they'll activate it right away.. i really dont see whats a big deal

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by asher
it is a pain in the arse, but if its a vitual account i can understand where they are coming from, someone could easily fuck up a whole server and they would want to know exactly who it is

THEY HAVE MY CREDIT CARD AND BILLING INFO!!

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Sjelefall
*shrug* does it matter though? just scan it in, and send to one of the online support people. they'll activate it right away.. i really dont see whats a big deal

I don't have a scanner. And even if I did, I wouldn't simply because they didn't inform me of this BEFORE I signed up. I don't want them to have my driver's license.

Linguist · 06-24-2004, 09:45 PM

good luck with another host then

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Sjelefall
good luck with another host then

Thanks. At least I'm not the only one...

Anyway.. back to drinking..

Serge Litehead · 06-24-2004, 09:52 PM

consider yourself lucky as well as safe!
i never give out ssh w/o prior seing ss#

Spunky · 06-24-2004, 09:54 PM

Thank the cheater/spammers for making it more difficult.People are just tring to protect themselves

Nembrionic · 06-24-2004, 10:00 PM

I don't see what the fuss is about?
You're on a virtual account right?

It's quite normal for hosting companies to ask for faxes like this.

Would you like some numbfuck to fuck around on the same server you are one, and screw up without them knowing who it is?
Because that would mean your site would be fucked for some time.

Works both ways.

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by holograph
consider yourself lucky as well as safe!
i never give out ssh w/o prior seing ss#

sreiously? that's extreme.

remind me never to host with you.

quantum-x · 06-24-2004, 10:01 PM

Sounds more than reasonable to me.

Seriously, any host that gives out SSH access to their boxes without clamped down security is fucking nuts.

Be happy that they DO ask you for it.

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nembrionic
I don't see what the fuss is about?
You're on a virtual account right?

It's quite normal for hosting companies to ask for faxes like this.

Would you like some numbfuck to fuck around on the same server you are one, and screw up without them knowing who it is?
Because that would mean your site would be fucked for some time.

Works both ways.

Okay, I'll concede to that point. However, is this such an ongoing problem?

This is the first time I've ever run into something like this. And I would've appreciated them telling me about SSH verifcation either BEFORE or AFTER in the signup confirmation email. I would've made proper plans before moving my sites over if I wasn't going to have a certain degree of control.

Platinum/Lantern · 06-24-2004, 10:05 PM

It's official..
people run to the boards about anything now...

People have procedures in place for a reason..
following protocol is just following protocol

"I'm Platinum Lantern, and I approve this message"

fuzebox · 06-24-2004, 10:06 PM

I thought it was pretty damn weird when they asked me... But it is a shared box and someone with shell access could do a lot of damage if they wanted.

I just took a pic of my license and visa with my digital camera and emailed it over. Shrug.

infecto · 06-24-2004, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OFFBEAT
Okay, I'll concede to that point. However, is this such an ongoing problem?

This is the first time I've ever run into something like this. And I would've appreciated them telling me about SSH verifcation either BEFORE or AFTER in the signup confirmation email. I would've made proper plans before moving my sites over if I wasn't going to have a certain degree of control.

Doesn't matter if its an ongoing problem...its better to be safe then sorry. You never know when that one numbnut stumbles across something and ruin your day.

Platinum/Lantern · 06-24-2004, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OFFBEAT
Okay, I'll concede to that point. However, is this such an ongoing problem?

This is the first time I've ever run into something like this. And I would've appreciated them telling me about SSH verifcation either BEFORE or AFTER in the signup confirmation email. I would've made proper plans before moving my sites over if I wasn't going to have a certain degree of control.

Bottomline...
Webair is a great host

They aren't trying to make you "go out of your way"
they aren't trying to "give you a hard time"
they simply are trying to follow guidelines

Faxing something is very easy...
The time spent in this thread, could have been spent driving to Kinko's or Blockbuster Video and using their fax machine...

just my million cents

Phoenix66 · 06-24-2004, 10:12 PM

What's the big deal with ssh access? When it's properly configurerd you can't even run "dir/ls" command in sections that doesn't belong you....

JulianSosa · 06-24-2004, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OFFBEAT
Are these guys for real? This is something I should've been told BEFORE I signed up and transfered my domains over to their servers.

Stupid.

I would just take a pic and email it over. Its not worth loosing traffic or having your site be down.

Webair is a great host.

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 10:14 PM

Steve was kind enough to at least get my sites live by ungzip/untar my content until I get SSH access squared away in the morning.

JulianSosa · 06-24-2004, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OFFBEAT
Steve was kind enough to at least get my sites live by ungzip/untar my content until I get SSH access squared away in the morning.

All is good that ends well

Turboface · 06-24-2004, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Platinum/Lantern
Bottomline...
Webair is a great host

Nembrionic · 06-24-2004, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix66
What's the big deal with ssh access? When it's properly configurerd you can't even run "dir/ls" command in sections that doesn't belong you....

You'd be amazed about how many hosting companies DON'T have their things straight

Nembrionic · 06-24-2004, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OFFBEAT
Okay, I'll concede to that point. However, is this such an ongoing problem?

This is the first time I've ever run into something like this. And I would've appreciated them telling me about SSH verifcation either BEFORE or AFTER in the signup confirmation email. I would've made proper plans before moving my sites over if I wasn't going to have a certain degree of control.

Well...ongoing problem. Yes. People abuse their access for spam, or sneaking around on other peoples accounts.

But even if it wasn't an ongoing problem: why make it possible in the first place?

I mean...why does a dog lick it's balls? Just because it CAN.
So there's always fuckers that'll fuck around just because they CAN. Sad but true.

But you got the point already

cjnet · 06-24-2004, 10:26 PM

OFFBEAT · 06-24-2004, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nembrionic
I mean...why does a dog lick it's balls? Just because it CAN.
So there's always fuckers that'll fuck around just because they CAN. Sad but true.

But you got the point already

Nice analogy..

Snake Doctor · 06-24-2004, 11:05 PM

Not really a big deal unless you're trying to hide your true identity.

Just because they have your credit card and billing info doesn't mean anything. You could have faked that, stolen it, whatever, the same way scammers generate signups to sponsors with fake/stolen card numbers.

If that was the case then whoopie, they'd be out one month's hosting bill, no biggie.
But I can understand them wanting verification of who you are before you get shell access to a server that you have a virtual account on.

On another note, WTF are you doing with a virtual account anyways? Servers are cheap, get your own and then you can do whatever the fuck you want with the box, AND you don't have to worry about some other knucklehead with shell access fucking up your sites.

06-24-2004, 09:35 PM	#6
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06-24-2004, 09:37 PM	#10
Linguist Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,706	You can scan it, and send it in, takes 15 mins for them to activate it. That's less time than its gonna take you to bitch them out Or you can ask tech support to untar it? is it virtual or dedicated acct btw? Edit: I wouldn't even start bitching if its a virtual account. If I were them, I wouldn't want to give SSH access to just anyone either. Last edited by Linguist; 06-24-2004 at 09:38 PM..

06-24-2004, 09:38 PM	#11
Illicit wtf ? Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GFY Posts: 11,895	oh they are serious... they did the same thing to me... I was like, wtf, your not worried about who I am when you charge my credit card every month __________________ Insert Sig Here

06-24-2004, 09:54 PM	#21
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,944	Thank the cheater/spammers for making it more difficult.People are just tring to protect themselves __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

06-24-2004, 09:31 PM	#2
Abyss_Vee Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,208	never happened to me

06-24-2004, 09:33 PM	#3
Fukeneh Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 1,245	i lease whole servers and they sure kick ass for me. and iv never had to fax shit for root access even, let alone SSH. however jupiter on the other hand wanted me to fax shit just to pay with credit card, after i had done so numerous times in the past. i webair!

06-24-2004, 09:34 PM	#4
OFFBEAT Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA, US Posts: 398	I seriously hope this is a joke. I tar/gziped my sites from my previous host and FTP into webair. I can't uncompress my web content without SSH! Are these guys retarded?

06-24-2004, 09:35 PM	#5
rdunn404 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 999	Is this a dedicated server or virtual?

06-24-2004, 09:41 PM	#13
Ash@phpFX Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,292	it is a pain in the arse, but if its a vitual account i can understand where they are coming from, someone could easily fuck up a whole server and they would want to know exactly who it is

06-24-2004, 09:45 PM	#18
Linguist Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,706	good luck with another host then

06-24-2004, 09:52 PM	#20
Serge Litehead Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Behind the scenes Posts: 5,190	consider yourself lucky as well as safe! i never give out ssh w/o prior seing ss#

06-24-2004, 10:00 PM	#22
Nembrionic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,424	I don't see what the fuss is about? You're on a virtual account right? It's quite normal for hosting companies to ask for faxes like this. Would you like some numbfuck to fuck around on the same server you are one, and screw up without them knowing who it is? Because that would mean your site would be fucked for some time. Works both ways.

06-24-2004, 10:01 PM	#24
quantum-x Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ICQ: 251425 Fr/Au/Ca Posts: 6,863	Sounds more than reasonable to me. Seriously, any host that gives out SSH access to their boxes without clamped down security is fucking nuts. Be happy that they DO ask you for it.

06-24-2004, 10:05 PM	#26
Platinum/Lantern Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 290	It's official.. people run to the boards about anything now... People have procedures in place for a reason.. following protocol is just following protocol "I'm Platinum Lantern, and I approve this message" __________________ www.gallerytrafficservice.com/ "When I pay for gallery spots, I want the best value, the best customer service and the best sites. Thats why I'll only use GTS from now on." Platinum Lantern

06-24-2004, 10:06 PM	#27
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,114	I thought it was pretty damn weird when they asked me... But it is a shared box and someone with shell access could do a lot of damage if they wanted. I just took a pic of my license and visa with my digital camera and emailed it over. Shrug.

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06-24-2004, 10:14 PM	#32
OFFBEAT Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA, US Posts: 398	Steve was kind enough to at least get my sites live by ungzip/untar my content until I get SSH access squared away in the morning.

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06-24-2004, 11:05 PM	#39
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Not really a big deal unless you're trying to hide your true identity. Just because they have your credit card and billing info doesn't mean anything. You could have faked that, stolen it, whatever, the same way scammers generate signups to sponsors with fake/stolen card numbers. If that was the case then whoopie, they'd be out one month's hosting bill, no biggie. But I can understand them wanting verification of who you are before you get shell access to a server that you have a virtual account on. On another note, WTF are you doing with a virtual account anyways? Servers are cheap, get your own and then you can do whatever the fuck you want with the box, AND you don't have to worry about some other knucklehead with shell access fucking up your sites. __________________ sig too big