Drama..... who got screwed on this deal? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

JFK · 06-24-2004, 09:23 AM

Fitty Bad Deals

DarkJedi · 06-24-2004, 09:25 AM

sound's like the seller is full of shit

CDSmith · 06-24-2004, 09:48 AM

Tam, your fellow webmasters need to know who the seller is. It would be a great favor if you were to post his name and the name of his company.

It would really suck if someone else were to be ripped off and jerked around like this. The rule "lightning never strikes twice in the same spot" doesn't apply to scammers.

L0stMind · 06-24-2004, 09:56 AM

Out the content provider!

Tam · 06-24-2004, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Tam, your fellow webmasters need to know who the seller is. It would be a great favor if you were to post his name and the name of his company.

It would really suck if someone else were to be ripped off and jerked around like this. The rule "lightning never strikes twice in the same spot" doesn't apply to scammers.

Yup, you are absolutely right and you will get the head soon enough. But to be honest? I DOUBT anyone has ever heard of them........ it isn't a name I have seen anywhere else, has been around for a long time, but I haven't seen the links or name or anything around anywhere.

As for the middle man, I don't THINK that there was anything malicious (sp?) there, honestly. I know I COULD be wrong, but I honestly don't think it was a thought of evil doing in that head.... that one I am not at all sure about at this time, so I can't even venture a guess on it. LOL

I don't really know ALL of the details on this, I know most of it from being told by all parties involved, and most all of the tales are validated by the others stories on this...... so I have no reason to believe any one party isn't being straight with me on it... I DO know the content WAS paid for by the buyer in full and it was not delivered........ with the exception of the 1/3 that was and there are no licenses so it is useless to even HAVE it.

L0stMind · 06-24-2004, 10:57 AM

Hurry up Tam! out em!

HS-Trixxxia · 06-24-2004, 11:25 AM

First - Send a letter of demand - either they provide the goods or they provide the content with licenses as per agreement - give them until Monday. The letter should state:

In reference to agreement made on '*****' with purchase order/invoice number of which you have received full payment of by wire transfer #s ****, ****, *****, *****, we, ***** Company, have not received either the content with all licenses via FTP or delivery, nor a full refund for the purchase as per agreement.

This letter shall stand as a letter of demand giving you until ***DATE**** to provide the goods as per agreement/contract. Failure to do so will leave us no alternative other than to make a formal Fraud complaint to our local agency and take legal measures to recuperate our funds.

We wish to settle this matter professionally and trust you will provide what has been paid for as per our agreement.

We trust you will govern yourselves accordingly,

*********** something to that effect ***********

Tam - where is this content provider situated? If in the US/Canada give them 5 business days, then file a 'fraud' report - paying for something you didn't receive & breach of purchase contract 'the invoice/purchase order' - have the guy see his bank about checking if he can request the funds back on collection based on 'non-receipt of goods'.

Maybe they aren't well known - but they may be selling to other content providers & if this is the case, then they may very well be screwing other people or will in the future.

Good luck to him, hope he gets his money back so he'll get better serviced & most likely more for his buck!

Tam · 06-24-2004, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by L0stMind
Hurry up Tam! out em!

You are an impatient one I see.......... are you going to go and eat them for dinner?

baddog · 06-25-2004, 02:40 AM

okay, it has been 24 hours, will you out them now?

Ar3s · 06-25-2004, 02:43 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Take his ass in.

And tell us the content provider so we can choose not to do business with them.

HEHEHEHEHE

Tam · 06-25-2004, 05:54 AM

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Originally posted by baddog
okay, it has been 24 hours, will you out them now?

wow..... ok looks like the guy gave his own info out, I didn't know he had ever posted on this board, but since he has and he posted his OWN info, I'll just link you to it, how's that?

See if you can spot the bad bad man here:

LMAO

Adult Site Traffic · 06-25-2004, 08:47 AM

I know who it is, and I know some of the people on this board who do biz with this person.

I didn't know this particular deal was $16/k, but I'm sure as hell glad that I didn't have him shoot that custom stuff we had previously discussed.

Good luck with it all. LMK if I can help

AST

Tam · 06-25-2004, 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
I know who it is, and I know some of the people on this board who do biz with this person.

I didn't know this particular deal was $16/k, but I'm sure as hell glad that I didn't have him shoot that custom stuff we had previously discussed.

Good luck with it all. LMK if I can help

AST

There is no way in hell after I found out about all of this I would have ever let you go there........ you know that.

Ok folks....... for those that want this head...... here it is. He posted his OWN info in this thread I mentioned earlier and I'll quote it for you, that way I am not in deep shit for posting personal info, he posted it himself.

Quote:

CyberNet_Digital
I am probably spamming

Registered: Dec 2002
Location:
Posts: 2

Get in touch with me in regards to your DRM needs. We've got several flexible solutions to fit your needs.

Mack Diesel
CyberNetDigital.Com
E-Mail: [email protected]
Phone: 817-460-9079
ICQ: 115311355

Go up to my last message and hit the link to that thread and you will see he posted it here himself.

Mack_Diesel · 02-03-2005, 10:59 PM

Tam-
Is there a reason why you picked a board that you KNOW from our previous conversations I don?t frequent that often to place this post???
It couldn?t possibly be because you are about as underhanded as your partner in crime Casper Meier is it?

You should have begun this story by telling everyone here THE TRUTH about this deal?..
Let?s start first with your nameless ?MIDDLEMAN? who just happens to be your friend (and business partner at the time) Casper Meier of Cool Content?.I can?t imagine that you could somehow overlook such a major issue?It?s not like you could have forgotten that Casper and yourself were business partners at the time.

I find it amazing that after you told me yourself that Casper said that he could and would sell the content (with or without a valid license) if the partnership between Shane and himself went bad that you failed to note that issue in your B.S. post.

That however doesn?t surprise me much when you consider that you also stated that the ?middleman? bowed out of the deal?.
Is that what you call it??? Casper didn?t have a choice in the matter?Shane sent Casper several thousands dollars that was supposed to be paid to me and Casper pocketed the money and I never saw a dime of it. Casper didn?t ?bow out? the fact of the matter is he ripped Shane off and Shane didn?t feel comfortable sending him any more money.

I guess it also slipped your memory that Casper REFUSED to have the content delivered via a courier (Fed Ex, UPS, DHL, etc.) or delivered via FTP. This was Casper?s doing and now we all know why?.It was so that Casper could easily claim that he never received it....Looking back on things that doesn?t surprise me a bit and I should have been more skeptical of Casper from the beginning. Casper initiated this deal pretending to be the buyer?it was only when it was time for payment to be made that Shane was even mentioned?Basically what Casper was trying to do was buy the content from me, sell it to Shane, make a nice profit in the deal, and then still keep the content to sell himself?.I don?t think he really ever had any intention of turning that content over to Shane.

You knew from day one that this was supposed to be a volume content deal?.
The terms of the agreement was for there to be ONE payment for the content?For the price discount they wanted they had to purchase the content in full. Casper was well aware that Shane never had the money to pay me to begin with but he went ahead and set up the deal and then all I got from that point on is a lot of excuses and whining about Shane?s financial issues.
If you don?t have the money to pay for content in bulk then don?t arrange bulk content deals and think that you can then pay the content off over a 3 or 4 month period. This is not the porn lay-a-way department.

You quote that you and your company are not involved in this but that?s amazing considering the fact that you were working for Casper Meier at the time doing?.Content Sales of all things!!! And you even go on to state that you are ?affiliated? with the buyer?.Considering the fact that you were praying for the buyer to give you $15,000 to save your struggling webmaster program this sounds a lot like you just have an axe to grind with me because you?re still stuck living in that trailer in the middle of nowhere.

If anyone wants to know what really happened and hear it from someone who was actually involved in the deal and just not someone trying to save their own ass let me know.

Diesel

Top Jimmy · 02-03-2005, 11:06 PM

Why is everyone bumpin' old threads?

Check the dates, this thread is from last summer.

$5 submissions · 02-03-2005, 11:13 PM

Sounds like a contract where you both agreed to modifications. I'd check my logs and email chain if I were you.

dirtydesignz · 02-03-2005, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack_Diesel

blah blah blah blah

She isn't even in this business anymore. Jeez...why would you try and start trouble and hit an old post?

Mack_Diesel · 02-04-2005, 06:11 AM

You're asking ME why I am trying to start trouble???
That's amazing....if you think about it wasn't it Tam who started this whole entire thread of BS? I'm not starting anything...I'm just letting the truth be known and finishing it.

Tam came on this board and made several posts regarding myself and my company while deliberately not presenting the facts of the situation...I'm just setting the record straight. She only did this to try and save her own ass and her struggling company...

I only bothered to reply to this publicly since someone brought it to my attention...Tam has a long history of working with some very shady people and every time things have hit the fan she has always pleaded complete ignorance to any wrong doing..This time she got caught in her own web of lies and bullshit.

Diesel

tranza · 02-04-2005, 06:38 AM

That's fucked up... Are you the middle-man?

Playful Me · 02-04-2005, 06:59 AM

Wow - drama abounds

dirtydesignz · 02-04-2005, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mack_Diesel

You're asking ME why I am trying to start trouble???
That's amazing....if you think about it wasn't it Tam who started this whole entire thread of BS? I'm not starting anything...I'm just letting the truth be known and finishing it.

Tam came on this board and made several posts regarding myself and my company while deliberately not presenting the facts of the situation...I'm just setting the record straight. She only did this to try and save her own ass and her struggling company...

I only bothered to reply to this publicly since someone brought it to my attention...Tam has a long history of working with some very shady people and every time things have hit the fan she has always pleaded complete ignorance to any wrong doing..This time she got caught in her own web of lies and bullshit.

Diesel

She started this thread in JUNE 2004! Like I said, she isn't in this business anymore and hasn't been on GFY for a while now.

Mack_Diesel · 02-04-2005, 12:54 PM

I don't really care when Tam started it....
The bottom line is that she came on here and posted all of this B.S. and I am going to set the record straight.

Considering that she came on here and LIED to all of you about this why on earth are you even attempting to protect her? If you know Tam then I am quite sure you kow of her involvement with Casper who was the middleman in this whole fiasco.

Mack_Diesel · 02-04-2005, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz

She started this thread in JUNE 2004! Like I said, she isn't in this business anymore and hasn't been on GFY for a while now.

and by the way Lizzie...You're biased support for Tam isn't fooling anyone ESPECIALLY me...The CSW Cash banner that you have on your site pretty much gives you away.

SongRider · 02-04-2005, 02:01 PM

You STOLE fifteen thousand dollars for content you NEVER produced... THATS the bottom line!!!

You accepted the original terms of the deal and changed it over and over till you got ALL FIFTEEN THOUSAND dollars and NEVER gave the guy who PAID for it a single picture..... so what in the fuck does that have to do with ANYONE but YOUR sorry ass.....

And why in the hell does this mean anything to you today? You didnt give a shit when it was going down almost a YEAR ago when you were laying low trying to figure out what you were going to do.

Crawl back in your little tough talking texas hole and count your pennies and fish for your next victim you fucking thief!!!

And by the way Mack dumbass.... Tam dont even own CSWcash anymore and hasnt for months, and also dont even work in this industry, so write that on your calender so when you scramble for someone else to blame for your OWN fuckups next time you can be a little better prepared.

Rui · 02-04-2005, 02:29 PM

I would try to get the money back...that is far from beeing acceptable.

Mack_Diesel · 02-04-2005, 02:47 PM

Once again we have people who don't know shit about shit over here on GFY running their fucking mouth...
You don't know shit about this deal and you are even more clueless than Tam about what really happened....When you consider the fact that you were neither buyer, seller, or middleman in this deal you opinion and thoughts on this matter are pretty much worthless!

We all know that Casper fucked this entire deal up and that Tam most likely had something to do with it...I never changed the terms of the deal...The client was just never able to come up with the balance that was owed and all I got was one story after another about his "financial problems" and why he couldn't pay for the content as specified in the deal.

I don't really give a shit whether Tam owns CSW Cash anymore or not...I couldn't give a shit whether she was alive or dead...

The bottom fucking line is that Tam came on this board and posted all of this bullshit just trying to save her own ass...If I was "laying low" then I wouldn't have had multiple conversations with Tam trying to sort this bullshit out....I've got all of the e-mails and ICQ records regarding this whole entire set of events so maybe YOU need to get your fucking facts straight before you come on here talking shit.

Tam is supposedly out of the business....I wonder who the fuck is really laying low...It will most likely only be a matter of time before her fat ass reappears again.

Since you think you know so damn much about this whole deal then why don't you tell the whole world what it is that Tam is really so upset about and why she came on here trying to bad mouth me anyway....
It has nothing to do with this content deal and more about the fact that Casper fucked this entire deal up which ended up costing Tam the $15k she was hoping this guy was going to invest in her struggling ass CSW Cash program.

You can talk all of the shit you want but there are only THREE people on the face of the earth who know what really happened on this deal and I'm one of them....Considering the fact that you're not you should really Go Fuck Yourself.

I replied to this thread to set the record straight about what really happened since Tam decided to take the low road and come on here and post this B.S. don't be mad because the truth came out and came back to bite Tam in the ass.

Diesel

axelcat · 02-04-2005, 02:48 PM

no popcorn pics

Tam · 02-04-2005, 03:29 PM

Ok, so that my ICQ will stop singing like a damn bird, here I am. LOL

Mack.... I told you AFTER I posted this and AFTER everything became so crazy that I no longer knew whether I was coming or going that I was out of this and I wouldn't discuss it with you, Casper, the other guy or anyone else and I haven't. It wasn't my business in the first place, my place in it was trying to play mediator, which all of you were more than happy to have me do, but when it just was NOT working out, I backed out of it because I had work to do on my own projects.

Your coming here a year later is your own desperate attempt at something, and I really am not interested in what that something is at this time, because as you were told by my HUSBAND, SongRider and by dirtydesignz, I am no longer in the porn industry. I left it a few months ago for many reasons, not one of which had anything to do with you or anything about this situation here, I forgot about this long ago. I left the industry because of health reasons, among other reasons. I made a post about this, so it's there for you if you care to look it up.

As for your pot shots at me personally, if this is what makes you feel like a man, then have at it, I have definitely been called worse, and I have not one thing to hide from anyone about anything. I have never said one word here or anywhere else about having something I don't, if you knew me, you would know I am about THE most candid person you have ever met, I don't put up airs for you or anyone else.

Fatass.... yeah I got one of those, it's not 18 anymore and has been thru having kids, sitting on it and health reasons, so what, do you think I am not aware of this or that anyone else isn't? Try to find something else to hurt me with besides this, baby, this isn't a shock to anyone. LOL

Trailer in the middle of nowhere...... HAHAHA, you are so good. Yes I do live in a trailer in the middle of nowhere and I love it, it's mine and I don't have a desire to come and say I have millions in the bank and a big fancy house, I am a pretty simple person. So yeah I live in a Trailer and I live in the sticks.... again, try and say something that surprises someone, because this didn't surprise anyone either.

Struggling company...... ummm... again, yup, you are very much right, I started that company on a wing and a prayer and it didn't get off the ground as I had hoped and I made some bad decisions, one of which was trying to start a company without the right capitol to do so, MY BAD! But STILL not why I sold it. I have several health problems and other things that were needing the front seat for awhile, so I made the decision to get out and take care of things.

Shady people...... well, again, tell these people something they don't know, and YOU should know all about this since you were one of them.

Bottom line here, I didn't ruin you or your rep here, you have to HAVE one or the other for this to be ruined, right? Think you are going to ruin my rep so no one is going to do business with ME anymore? Go for it, and I hope you get whatever it is you want from this YEAR OLD thread because I am so over this and have been since the day I told you I was on ICQ and the phone.

I honestly liked ALL parties involved here and maybe I was wrong for trying to help, as I always seem to be the one getting bit in the face when I tried to help someone, I felt horrible that any of this was happening, but as I told you, I backed out and made it clear to all involved I had, and when I back out of something, I don't look back, I do it, I back out and don't look back at it. That doesn't serve me or you well, so I did as I said and left it........ this thread was posted before that, and I am sorry to say, I don't have the ability to delete threads here. LOL

So... in closing, I am NOT in this industry anymore, I do still have many friends here and I do still post here from time to time, but I am not in it anymore, so if you don't get a response from me for a month, please don't think I am ignoring you, I have other things more pressing in my life at this time.

Mack_Diesel · 02-04-2005, 04:15 PM

I made this post to clear the air about a few things which you curiously for whatever selfish reasons of your own failed to mention in your post....

You failed to mention in your post that Casper was the "middleman" in this deal...

You failed to mention your business relationship with Casper as well as Shane...

If you had made this post and stated the facts correctly without trying to hide any of the evidence that might have implicated you or made you look bad then I would have let it stand as it was but the fact of the matter is that you only told half of the facts here....

You are right about one thing...
This was NONE of your business but still for some reason you chose to post this crap on GFY...the fact that you omitted several key facts leaves you looking pretty damn guilty of being involved when I look back at this situation.

You haven't answered the question as to why you omitted the facts about your association with Casper and at this point in time it doesn't really matter since you can't deny them either...We all know the truth about that.

As far as taking "pot shots" at people is concerned you should be one to talk...You started this thread!
You decided to make a post someplace that you thought I would never see if since you knew that I don't frequent the boards that often...and even worse you lied to everyone to cover your involvement in the situation.

As they say "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"...

NONE of this would be taking place if....
A: You told the whole story without eliminating facts to cover yourself
B: You minded your own business and didn't make public comments about something which you really had no first hand knowledge of.

I didn't come here to hurt you or anyone else...I came here to set the facts straight since you decided to tell only half the story...If I wanted to hurt you or anyone else over this believe me that I am more than capable of making those kinds of things happen.

This is about one thing and one thing only...
Your conscious decision to come on here and tell a halfass story about what really went down...If someone hadn't have brought this post to my attention then maybe I would have never found out what a snake in the grass that you are...

Casper fucked this deal up from the get go when he stole Shane's money and you got fucked out of an investor in the process but how dare you fucking lie about the facts of the matter to cover your own fucking ass.

I don't have to worry about killing your credibility...I just posted the facts of the matter and I will let the truth take care of everything else...You can't come up with a good excuse for making this post and covering up some of the facts the way that you did and we all know that.

You don?t have to reply?I really don?t give a shit?.You exercised your right to come on here and post a bunch of bullshit that you knew very little about and I just came on here and set the record straight?It?s that fucking simple.

This is pretty much your own doing....so don't blame me for telling it like it is!

Did you ever think for a moment that if you came on here and told the truth...and the whole truth...from the very beginning that none of this would be happening right now???

Diesel

Tam · 02-04-2005, 04:42 PM

As I said, I told you AFTER I made this post that I was done with it, and I didn't post in it again until it was brought back up. I didn't STICK my nose in it, my nose was STUCK in it for me, thru no doing of my own. Of course when something directly effects me or my company, family, friends or anything of the kind, I am going to try and help repair any damage done, and if it bites someone in the process, I am sorry. I didn't even know who was all involved in this until after the damage was done and what was done was in DIRECT danger of hurting MY territory, so naturally I am going to try and help repair it for all of the parties involved that were doing business with ME, so you are wrong, it WAS my business, everything about this was dealing with MY business associates, you being one of them. Once the damage was done that was going to be done to my company and there was no way of fixing THAT, I backed out of it entirely, I told you this straight to your face and on icq.

You are right about a couple of things, there was NOT going to be a resolution to this because each one involved honestly thought they were right, and I look back at it NOW and you know? NOT ONE of you were right, including myself. I hadn't even thought two minutes about it until it was brought back to my attention last night and I gave it some serious thought and I tell ya, this was the single WORST and most confusing thing that's ever happened to me and what caused ALOT of my "issues", it literally sucked the wind right out of me and I never quite recovered from it. So who was right and who was wrong?

You want to know who was right and who was wrong? ALL OF YOU!!!! That's right, all of you were wrong. And I didn't help matters by trying to moderate it (even if it was in the best interest to MY company to help resolve it), all THAT did was cost ME business, friends and partners, so what exactly did I get from it? NOTHING!!!! I lost way more than ANY of you on several levels, since I don't ONLY look at the business side of this. But each and every single one of you were wrong on this and you can say what ya want, you know this is right as well as I do. ALL of you made mistakes and all of you suffered from those mistakes.... some monetary and some business and some friendships, it was just plain "a mess" and you know this as well as I do.

I can look at this this way now, I am not personally involved in ANYTHING porn related except for the boards I read, that's it. So I have had my time to come to terms with things and looking back at this, NONE of it should have even gone down because not one of you should have made the mistakes you personally made on this.

Do I hate you? Nope, don't have it in me, you didn't hit me where I hurt, you weren't given the chance, and frankly, a business deal going to hell in a handbag doesn't strike up hatred in me, so don't I don't hate you or anyone else involved, for what it's worth. I just don't have any feelings at all about this situation anymore from ANY level of it. What's done was done and all of you made some pretty serious errors in it, including myself..... and it's done, no going back. I AM sorry it went down the way it did, don't get me wrong, BUT I don't hate or like or dislike anyone involved BECAUSE of this, Ijusthave no feelings about it whatsoever.

I wish you, as well as all parties involved in this, well, but at this point in this, I really, honestly don't have any feelings one way or the other about it. What I DID do in this was as a result of trying to HELP all involved and sometimes things just don't turn out as we planned, do they?

Mack_Diesel · 02-04-2005, 05:11 PM

All of this feelings crap aside you still haven't explained why is it you chose to omit some very key things in your post....

That is what this is all about!

You have failed to give one single good reason why you came on here and LIED (or to be nice about it...WILLINGLY OMITTED) key facts about this deal such as that the "middle man" in this deal was your business partner at the time Casper Meier and that Casper never "bowed out" of the deal...

It was after Casper stole several thousands dollars from the buyer that Shane refused to send anymore money to Casper and wanted to deal directly with me...

Like I said...if you had told the whole truth in your post this wouldn't have been an issue but since you decided to omit all of the facts that may have shown your involvement in this deal you one can't help but to think you knew a lot more about the scam Casper was trying to pull...After all you did handle the sales for his content company.

Diesel

"The truth shall set you free..."

06-24-2004, 09:23 AM	#51
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06-24-2004, 09:48 AM	#53
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Tam, your fellow webmasters need to know who the seller is. It would be a great favor if you were to post his name and the name of his company. It would really suck if someone else were to be ripped off and jerked around like this. The rule "lightning never strikes twice in the same spot" doesn't apply to scammers. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

06-24-2004, 09:56 AM	#54
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06-24-2004, 10:57 AM	#56
L0stMind Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancity Posts: 1,681	Hurry up Tam! out em! __________________ http://cashcore.com - Make Money. http://ezprovider.net - Hosting.

06-24-2004, 11:25 AM	#57
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	First - Send a letter of demand - either they provide the goods or they provide the content with licenses as per agreement - give them until Monday. The letter should state: In reference to agreement made on '***' with purchase order/invoice number of which you have received full payment of by wire transfer #s , , *, *, we, * Company, have not received either the content with all licenses via FTP or delivery, nor a full refund for the purchase as per agreement. This letter shall stand as a letter of demand giving you until DATE* to provide the goods as per agreement/contract. Failure to do so will leave us no alternative other than to make a formal Fraud complaint to our local agency and take legal measures to recuperate our funds. We wish to settle this matter professionally and trust you will provide what has been paid for as per our agreement. We trust you will govern yourselves accordingly, ******* something to that effect ******* Tam - where is this content provider situated? If in the US/Canada give them 5 business days, then file a 'fraud' report - paying for something you didn't receive & breach of purchase contract 'the invoice/purchase order' - have the guy see his bank about checking if he can request the funds back on collection based on 'non-receipt of goods'. Maybe they aren't well known - but they may be selling to other content providers & if this is the case, then they may very well be screwing other people or will in the future. Good luck to him, hope he gets his money back so he'll get better serviced & most likely more for his buck! __________________ ~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~ Patrizia COO - ♥ MassiveDollars Email: patrizia at MassiveDollars dot com ICQ: 465.826.441 Yahoo: trixxxia_me MSN**: trixxxia at hotmail dot com

06-24-2004, 09:25 AM	#52
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	sound's like the seller is full of shit

06-25-2004, 02:40 AM	#59
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	okay, it has been 24 hours, will you out them now?

06-25-2004, 08:47 AM	#62
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	I know who it is, and I know some of the people on this board who do biz with this person. I didn't know this particular deal was $16/k, but I'm sure as hell glad that I didn't have him shoot that custom stuff we had previously discussed. Good luck with it all. LMK if I can help AST __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

02-03-2005, 10:59 PM	#64
Mack_Diesel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7	The Truth...From Someone Who Knows The Real Deal Tam- Is there a reason why you picked a board that you KNOW from our previous conversations I don?t frequent that often to place this post??? It couldn?t possibly be because you are about as underhanded as your partner in crime Casper Meier is it? You should have begun this story by telling everyone here THE TRUTH about this deal?.. Let?s start first with your nameless ?MIDDLEMAN? who just happens to be your friend (and business partner at the time) Casper Meier of Cool Content?.I can?t imagine that you could somehow overlook such a major issue?It?s not like you could have forgotten that Casper and yourself were business partners at the time. I find it amazing that after you told me yourself that Casper said that he could and would sell the content (with or without a valid license) if the partnership between Shane and himself went bad that you failed to note that issue in your B.S. post. That however doesn?t surprise me much when you consider that you also stated that the ?middleman? bowed out of the deal?. Is that what you call it??? Casper didn?t have a choice in the matter?Shane sent Casper several thousands dollars that was supposed to be paid to me and Casper pocketed the money and I never saw a dime of it. Casper didn?t ?bow out? the fact of the matter is he ripped Shane off and Shane didn?t feel comfortable sending him any more money. I guess it also slipped your memory that Casper REFUSED to have the content delivered via a courier (Fed Ex, UPS, DHL, etc.) or delivered via FTP. This was Casper?s doing and now we all know why?.It was so that Casper could easily claim that he never received it....Looking back on things that doesn?t surprise me a bit and I should have been more skeptical of Casper from the beginning. Casper initiated this deal pretending to be the buyer?it was only when it was time for payment to be made that Shane was even mentioned?Basically what Casper was trying to do was buy the content from me, sell it to Shane, make a nice profit in the deal, and then still keep the content to sell himself?.I don?t think he really ever had any intention of turning that content over to Shane. You knew from day one that this was supposed to be a volume content deal?. The terms of the agreement was for there to be ONE payment for the content?For the price discount they wanted they had to purchase the content in full. Casper was well aware that Shane never had the money to pay me to begin with but he went ahead and set up the deal and then all I got from that point on is a lot of excuses and whining about Shane?s financial issues. If you don?t have the money to pay for content in bulk then don?t arrange bulk content deals and think that you can then pay the content off over a 3 or 4 month period. This is not the porn lay-a-way department. You quote that you and your company are not involved in this but that?s amazing considering the fact that you were working for Casper Meier at the time doing?.Content Sales of all things!!! And you even go on to state that you are ?affiliated? with the buyer?.Considering the fact that you were praying for the buyer to give you $15,000 to save your struggling webmaster program this sounds a lot like you just have an axe to grind with me because you?re still stuck living in that trailer in the middle of nowhere. If anyone wants to know what really happened and hear it from someone who was actually involved in the deal and just not someone trying to save their own ass let me know. Diesel

02-03-2005, 11:06 PM	#65
Top Jimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Down your street Posts: 2,513	Why is everyone bumpin' old threads? Check the dates, this thread is from last summer. __________________ Don't reply. Let it die.

02-03-2005, 11:13 PM	#66
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Sounds like a contract where you both agreed to modifications. I'd check my logs and email chain if I were you. __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

02-04-2005, 06:11 AM	#68
Mack_Diesel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7	You're asking ME why I am trying to start trouble??? That's amazing....if you think about it wasn't it Tam who started this whole entire thread of BS? I'm not starting anything...I'm just letting the truth be known and finishing it. Tam came on this board and made several posts regarding myself and my company while deliberately not presenting the facts of the situation...I'm just setting the record straight. She only did this to try and save her own ass and her struggling company... I only bothered to reply to this publicly since someone brought it to my attention...Tam has a long history of working with some very shady people and every time things have hit the fan she has always pleaded complete ignorance to any wrong doing..This time she got caught in her own web of lies and bullshit. Diesel

02-04-2005, 06:38 AM	#69
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	That's fucked up... Are you the middle-man? __________________ I'm just a newbie.

02-04-2005, 06:59 AM	#70
Playful Me Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 84	Wow - drama abounds __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Last edited by Playful Me; 02-04-2005 at 07:01 AM..

02-04-2005, 12:54 PM	#72
Mack_Diesel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7	I don't really care when Tam started it.... The bottom line is that she came on here and posted all of this B.S. and I am going to set the record straight. Considering that she came on here and LIED to all of you about this why on earth are you even attempting to protect her? If you know Tam then I am quite sure you kow of her involvement with Casper who was the middleman in this whole fiasco.

02-04-2005, 02:01 PM	#74
SongRider Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: KY- The state not the jelly Posts: 648	You STOLE fifteen thousand dollars for content you NEVER produced... THATS the bottom line!!! You accepted the original terms of the deal and changed it over and over till you got ALL FIFTEEN THOUSAND dollars and NEVER gave the guy who PAID for it a single picture..... so what in the fuck does that have to do with ANYONE but YOUR sorry ass..... And why in the hell does this mean anything to you today? You didnt give a shit when it was going down almost a YEAR ago when you were laying low trying to figure out what you were going to do. Crawl back in your little tough talking texas hole and count your pennies and fish for your next victim you fucking thief!!! And by the way Mack dumbass.... Tam dont even own CSWcash anymore and hasnt for months, and also dont even work in this industry, so write that on your calender so when you scramble for someone else to blame for your OWN fuckups next time you can be a little better prepared.

02-04-2005, 02:29 PM	#75
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	I would try to get the money back...that is far from beeing acceptable.

02-04-2005, 02:47 PM	#76
Mack_Diesel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7	You are COMPLETELY Full Of SHIT! Once again we have people who don't know shit about shit over here on GFY running their fucking mouth... You don't know shit about this deal and you are even more clueless than Tam about what really happened....When you consider the fact that you were neither buyer, seller, or middleman in this deal you opinion and thoughts on this matter are pretty much worthless! We all know that Casper fucked this entire deal up and that Tam most likely had something to do with it...I never changed the terms of the deal...The client was just never able to come up with the balance that was owed and all I got was one story after another about his "financial problems" and why he couldn't pay for the content as specified in the deal. I don't really give a shit whether Tam owns CSW Cash anymore or not...I couldn't give a shit whether she was alive or dead... The bottom fucking line is that Tam came on this board and posted all of this bullshit just trying to save her own ass...If I was "laying low" then I wouldn't have had multiple conversations with Tam trying to sort this bullshit out....I've got all of the e-mails and ICQ records regarding this whole entire set of events so maybe YOU need to get your fucking facts straight before you come on here talking shit. Tam is supposedly out of the business....I wonder who the fuck is really laying low...It will most likely only be a matter of time before her fat ass reappears again. Since you think you know so damn much about this whole deal then why don't you tell the whole world what it is that Tam is really so upset about and why she came on here trying to bad mouth me anyway.... It has nothing to do with this content deal and more about the fact that Casper fucked this entire deal up which ended up costing Tam the $15k she was hoping this guy was going to invest in her struggling ass CSW Cash program. You can talk all of the shit you want but there are only THREE people on the face of the earth who know what really happened on this deal and I'm one of them....Considering the fact that you're not you should really Go Fuck Yourself. I replied to this thread to set the record straight about what really happened since Tam decided to take the low road and come on here and post this B.S. don't be mad because the truth came out and came back to bite Tam in the ass. Diesel

02-04-2005, 02:48 PM	#77
axelcat Adult Locals Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 25,450	no popcorn pics

02-04-2005, 03:29 PM	#78
Tam Rude Bitch Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,490	Ok, so that my ICQ will stop singing like a damn bird, here I am. LOL Mack.... I told you AFTER I posted this and AFTER everything became so crazy that I no longer knew whether I was coming or going that I was out of this and I wouldn't discuss it with you, Casper, the other guy or anyone else and I haven't. It wasn't my business in the first place, my place in it was trying to play mediator, which all of you were more than happy to have me do, but when it just was NOT working out, I backed out of it because I had work to do on my own projects. Your coming here a year later is your own desperate attempt at something, and I really am not interested in what that something is at this time, because as you were told by my HUSBAND, SongRider and by dirtydesignz, I am no longer in the porn industry. I left it a few months ago for many reasons, not one of which had anything to do with you or anything about this situation here, I forgot about this long ago. I left the industry because of health reasons, among other reasons. I made a post about this, so it's there for you if you care to look it up. As for your pot shots at me personally, if this is what makes you feel like a man, then have at it, I have definitely been called worse, and I have not one thing to hide from anyone about anything. I have never said one word here or anywhere else about having something I don't, if you knew me, you would know I am about THE most candid person you have ever met, I don't put up airs for you or anyone else. Fatass.... yeah I got one of those, it's not 18 anymore and has been thru having kids, sitting on it and health reasons, so what, do you think I am not aware of this or that anyone else isn't? Try to find something else to hurt me with besides this, baby, this isn't a shock to anyone. LOL Trailer in the middle of nowhere...... HAHAHA, you are so good. Yes I do live in a trailer in the middle of nowhere and I love it, it's mine and I don't have a desire to come and say I have millions in the bank and a big fancy house, I am a pretty simple person. So yeah I live in a Trailer and I live in the sticks.... again, try and say something that surprises someone, because this didn't surprise anyone either. Struggling company...... ummm... again, yup, you are very much right, I started that company on a wing and a prayer and it didn't get off the ground as I had hoped and I made some bad decisions, one of which was trying to start a company without the right capitol to do so, MY BAD! But STILL not why I sold it. I have several health problems and other things that were needing the front seat for awhile, so I made the decision to get out and take care of things. Shady people...... well, again, tell these people something they don't know, and YOU should know all about this since you were one of them. Bottom line here, I didn't ruin you or your rep here, you have to HAVE one or the other for this to be ruined, right? Think you are going to ruin my rep so no one is going to do business with ME anymore? Go for it, and I hope you get whatever it is you want from this YEAR OLD thread because I am so over this and have been since the day I told you I was on ICQ and the phone. I honestly liked ALL parties involved here and maybe I was wrong for trying to help, as I always seem to be the one getting bit in the face when I tried to help someone, I felt horrible that any of this was happening, but as I told you, I backed out and made it clear to all involved I had, and when I back out of something, I don't look back, I do it, I back out and don't look back at it. That doesn't serve me or you well, so I did as I said and left it........ this thread was posted before that, and I am sorry to say, I don't have the ability to delete threads here. LOL So... in closing, I am NOT in this industry anymore, I do still have many friends here and I do still post here from time to time, but I am not in it anymore, so if you don't get a response from me for a month, please don't think I am ignoring you, I have other things more pressing in my life at this time. __________________ Get in Touch on Telegram if you need a hardworker - (since 1999)

02-04-2005, 04:15 PM	#79
Mack_Diesel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7	Just for the record I made this post to clear the air about a few things which you curiously for whatever selfish reasons of your own failed to mention in your post.... You failed to mention in your post that Casper was the "middleman" in this deal... You failed to mention your business relationship with Casper as well as Shane... If you had made this post and stated the facts correctly without trying to hide any of the evidence that might have implicated you or made you look bad then I would have let it stand as it was but the fact of the matter is that you only told half of the facts here.... You are right about one thing... This was NONE of your business but still for some reason you chose to post this crap on GFY...the fact that you omitted several key facts leaves you looking pretty damn guilty of being involved when I look back at this situation. You haven't answered the question as to why you omitted the facts about your association with Casper and at this point in time it doesn't really matter since you can't deny them either...We all know the truth about that. As far as taking "pot shots" at people is concerned you should be one to talk...You started this thread! You decided to make a post someplace that you thought I would never see if since you knew that I don't frequent the boards that often...and even worse you lied to everyone to cover your involvement in the situation. As they say "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"... NONE of this would be taking place if.... A: You told the whole story without eliminating facts to cover yourself B: You minded your own business and didn't make public comments about something which you really had no first hand knowledge of. I didn't come here to hurt you or anyone else...I came here to set the facts straight since you decided to tell only half the story...If I wanted to hurt you or anyone else over this believe me that I am more than capable of making those kinds of things happen. This is about one thing and one thing only... Your conscious decision to come on here and tell a halfass story about what really went down...If someone hadn't have brought this post to my attention then maybe I would have never found out what a snake in the grass that you are... Casper fucked this deal up from the get go when he stole Shane's money and you got fucked out of an investor in the process but how dare you fucking lie about the facts of the matter to cover your own fucking ass. I don't have to worry about killing your credibility...I just posted the facts of the matter and I will let the truth take care of everything else...You can't come up with a good excuse for making this post and covering up some of the facts the way that you did and we all know that. You don?t have to reply?I really don?t give a shit?.You exercised your right to come on here and post a bunch of bullshit that you knew very little about and I just came on here and set the record straight?It?s that fucking simple. This is pretty much your own doing....so don't blame me for telling it like it is! Did you ever think for a moment that if you came on here and told the truth...and the whole truth...from the very beginning that none of this would be happening right now??? Diesel

02-04-2005, 04:42 PM	#80
Tam Rude Bitch Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,490	As I said, I told you AFTER I made this post that I was done with it, and I didn't post in it again until it was brought back up. I didn't STICK my nose in it, my nose was STUCK in it for me, thru no doing of my own. Of course when something directly effects me or my company, family, friends or anything of the kind, I am going to try and help repair any damage done, and if it bites someone in the process, I am sorry. I didn't even know who was all involved in this until after the damage was done and what was done was in DIRECT danger of hurting MY territory, so naturally I am going to try and help repair it for all of the parties involved that were doing business with ME, so you are wrong, it WAS my business, everything about this was dealing with MY business associates, you being one of them. Once the damage was done that was going to be done to my company and there was no way of fixing THAT, I backed out of it entirely, I told you this straight to your face and on icq. You are right about a couple of things, there was NOT going to be a resolution to this because each one involved honestly thought they were right, and I look back at it NOW and you know? NOT ONE of you were right, including myself. I hadn't even thought two minutes about it until it was brought back to my attention last night and I gave it some serious thought and I tell ya, this was the single WORST and most confusing thing that's ever happened to me and what caused ALOT of my "issues", it literally sucked the wind right out of me and I never quite recovered from it. So who was right and who was wrong? You want to know who was right and who was wrong? ALL OF YOU!!!! That's right, all of you were wrong. And I didn't help matters by trying to moderate it (even if it was in the best interest to MY company to help resolve it), all THAT did was cost ME business, friends and partners, so what exactly did I get from it? NOTHING!!!! I lost way more than ANY of you on several levels, since I don't ONLY look at the business side of this. But each and every single one of you were wrong on this and you can say what ya want, you know this is right as well as I do. ALL of you made mistakes and all of you suffered from those mistakes.... some monetary and some business and some friendships, it was just plain "a mess" and you know this as well as I do. I can look at this this way now, I am not personally involved in ANYTHING porn related except for the boards I read, that's it. So I have had my time to come to terms with things and looking back at this, NONE of it should have even gone down because not one of you should have made the mistakes you personally made on this. Do I hate you? Nope, don't have it in me, you didn't hit me where I hurt, you weren't given the chance, and frankly, a business deal going to hell in a handbag doesn't strike up hatred in me, so don't I don't hate you or anyone else involved, for what it's worth. I just don't have any feelings at all about this situation anymore from ANY level of it. What's done was done and all of you made some pretty serious errors in it, including myself..... and it's done, no going back. I AM sorry it went down the way it did, don't get me wrong, BUT I don't hate or like or dislike anyone involved BECAUSE of this, Ijusthave no feelings about it whatsoever. I wish you, as well as all parties involved in this, well, but at this point in this, I really, honestly don't have any feelings one way or the other about it. What I DID do in this was as a result of trying to HELP all involved and sometimes things just don't turn out as we planned, do they? __________________ Get in Touch on Telegram if you need a hardworker - (since 1999)

02-04-2005, 05:11 PM	#81
Mack_Diesel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7	No Need To Get Mushy All of this feelings crap aside you still haven't explained why is it you chose to omit some very key things in your post.... That is what this is all about! You have failed to give one single good reason why you came on here and LIED (or to be nice about it...WILLINGLY OMITTED) key facts about this deal such as that the "middle man" in this deal was your business partner at the time Casper Meier and that Casper never "bowed out" of the deal... It was after Casper stole several thousands dollars from the buyer that Shane refused to send anymore money to Casper and wanted to deal directly with me... Like I said...if you had told the whole truth in your post this wouldn't have been an issue but since you decided to omit all of the facts that may have shown your involvement in this deal you one can't help but to think you knew a lot more about the scam Casper was trying to pull...After all you did handle the sales for his content company. Diesel "The truth shall set you free..."