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Old 06-22-2004, 03:55 PM   #1
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Antacid - What's the best over the counter?

I'm looking for some alternative to Tumms, preferably something I can take once a day. I am making huge improvements in my diet, exercise and lifestyle, but until that begins to show results I need something, any suggestions? Thanks
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Old 06-22-2004, 03:57 PM   #2
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prevacid it works ;)
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Old 06-22-2004, 03:58 PM   #3
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Storebrands. Just compare active ingrediants to the brand of your choice, you will notice they are the same yet just cost much less.
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Old 06-22-2004, 03:58 PM   #4
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I drink a cup of Pepto Bismol and it always does the trick
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Old 06-22-2004, 04:00 PM   #6
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Take the little purple pill (prevacid), been taking it for 2 years, never have to chew or drink that nasty shit again, and it's cheaper than buying tums all month if you have insurance ;)
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Old 06-22-2004, 04:04 PM   #7
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tumms work for me..
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Old 06-22-2004, 04:05 PM   #8
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prevacid it works ;)
I use it also you need a prescription
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I drink a cup of Pepto Bismol and it always does the trick
Pepto solves all the probs
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Old 06-22-2004, 04:12 PM   #10
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Thanks everyone I should also mention that I am going on Atkins diet so I can't do carbs which means Tumms and Peptobismol is not an option.

I thought Prevacid was prescription?
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prevacid is being sold over the counter now
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OTC sucks balls.

get some prilosec or nexium.
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Old 06-23-2004, 02:42 AM   #13
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Being that I have suffered from an active Hiatal Hernia for 13yrs and even went the surgery route - which failed btw. I have to say that Gaviscon is the best out there. It's OTC now and it DOES calm the tummy. It's a bit weird in your mouth as you chew the tablets and they start foaming up but if you want immediate relief it's the only way to go.

Tagamet, Prevacid, Pepcid, etc. all are good deterants but they are not the solution if you have serious gastric reflux. A Nissan Fundoplasty (I hope I spelled that right) is the surgical alternative if you are having serious problems. I had one in '91. It helped me for about a year but it didn't completely cure me. I still have episodes of "heart attack" like pain occasionally but at least it's only like once a year now.

For those that don't know -

A hiatal hernia is more common than one would think. One in Three people have it. It is an oversized opening in the diaphram, which serves as the top valve of your stomach. If it is too large stomach gasses "reflux" up into your esophagus causing the muscles you use to consume food to freak out and spasm. The result is, in mild cases heartburn, in serious cases it literally feels like you are having a heart attack or someone has just stuck a white hot sword thru your chest. It can be debilitating.

At its height with me, even a glass of water could trigger the reflux and I can't describe the pain other than to say that I literally thought I was going to die.

I was faced with taking pills the rest of my life or trying this surgery to fix the problem. I was 25 at the time and there was no way I was going to end up a pill freak the rest of my life so I opted for the surgery. It wasn't 100% effective, though it doesn't effect me nearly as often now as it did. I keep a bottle of Gaviscon handy now incase some greasy chicken or other yummy dish triggers it.

If you are experiencing anything close to what I went thru then I highly recommend that you consult your doctor and bring up "hiatal hernia" with them. If they look at you like deer in the headlights then find a different doctor. I fought this for 2yrs before I found one that actually got it.
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Old 06-23-2004, 08:17 AM   #14
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Venturi, can you explain a little more about your surgery. I know many who have hiatal hernias and they seem to be in the dark about how to handle them. Many doctors do not tell you enough. I have read that more than 50% of those over the age of 50 will have hiatal hernias.

How long were you in the hospital for the surgery? How expensive is it? How come your surgery didn't work out? Where do they cut you and how long is the recuperation after surgery?

I have also read that taking the medicine for the acid reflex problem may eventually cause ulcers or cancer. How long did your doctor tell you it was safe to take the pepcid, zantac stuff?
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Old 06-23-2004, 08:29 AM   #15
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OTC sucks balls.

get some prilosec or nexium.
agreed

if you need over the counter take pepsid ( take 2 instead of the one they recomend)
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Venturi, can you explain a little more about your surgery. I know many who have hiatal hernias and they seem to be in the dark about how to handle them. Many doctors do not tell you enough. I have read that more than 50% of those over the age of 50 will have hiatal hernias.

How long were you in the hospital for the surgery? How expensive is it? How come your surgery didn't work out? Where do they cut you and how long is the recuperation after surgery?

I have also read that taking the medicine for the acid reflex problem may eventually cause ulcers or cancer. How long did your doctor tell you it was safe to take the pepcid, zantac stuff?
Hi MicroChick! I'd be glad to give you my own personal insight on hiatal hernias...

#1 They suck major ass! LOL

Not all hiatal hernias warrant the level of extremeness I took to try and fix mine. I had a "class one" I think was the term they used which is the most severe. I went through Floroscopy, XRay, Barium Enemas, Barium "milkshakes", Upper GIs, Lower GIs, I think they even sent a platoon of GIs up my ass at one point LOL. Like I said above, literally 2yrs of typical gov't medicine bullshit redtape before finally a doctor that knew his penis from his stethoscope got ahold of my file.

Note: I had this surgery in 1991 at the Camp Lejeune Regional Naval Hospital so the technology may have drastically changed...

The Nissen Fundoplasty option: They go in via one of two paths; optimally thru the abdomen via an incision from the base of your sternum to your belly button; alternately they go in through your chest, spread your ribs, etc. ICK. If you are reasonably in shape and not seriously overweight they'll use the abdominal approach as it is actually easier for the docs and less tramatic to your body - obviously.
Once inside they disconnect your stomach from your esophagus and place a surgical plastic ring where your stomach joins with the esophagus and reattach. Then they fold part of your upper stomach around the ring and suture it to the esophagus. This acts as a pressure valve in essence. When stomach gasses build up it causes a balloon effect which pinches off the "new valve" preventing reflux. In my case they also had to transplant the main nerve that controls stomach behavior.
I was in the hospital for 8 days total. After the surgery the trama to my digestive system was such that I couldn't pee or shit on my own, so I was on a catheter and a diet of ice chips until such time that my system came back awake and I pooped, LOL. Of course for the first couple days I also had that really cool morphine pump that if I felt pain I could self-dose a couple ml of happy juice into my system. After being discharged from the hospital I was on 30 days convalecence leave while the sutures healed and I got my full strength back. I lost 35lbs (I only weighed 155lbs when I was admitted...) in those 8 days in the hospital because my only nurishment was whatever dripped into my arm via the IV.

There ARE risks to this procedure...
If truly successful you may never have the ability to burp or vomit again as the synthetic valve can be quite efficient. This could mean that a simple case of the stomach flu means being admitted to the hospital and having your stomach pumped just to keep you from rupturing it due to dry heaves.
The trama to your digestive system may be permanent and it will never re-engage. This is quite serious - d.e.a.t.h.
Plus the normal risks associated with any surgical procedure requiring general anesthesia.

For me, it was a simple decision. I was a 25yo Marine at the peak of my physical health and conditioning and the risks paled in comparison to living the rest of my life popping a pill every 8hrs.

Why it didn't work? Who knows. It's not a guaranteed fix and was never promised to be one by my doctors. It has helped, but I still have periodic bouts with the reflux. Remember, I was merely 25 then and a Marine - and we all know how us jarheads like to booze it up... I probably stretched the plastic ring out a bit over time thanks to Mr Budweizer and my old friend Mr J. Daniels.

Cost? For me it was free as I was on active duty. No idea what it'd cost today in the civilian world but I'd bet it ain't cheap - especially if they have to go in thru your chest.

Hope that diatribe was helpful!

Oh, and I'm sure that all the people you know with this condition are going to be beating down the doors of their Dr's office to have the surgery now too thanks to my description...
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Old 06-23-2004, 10:41 PM   #17
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if you are out of pills, tray a spoon full of baking soda, no shit!
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ya try the pink stuff or get tums
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if you are out of pills, tray a spoon full of baking soda, no shit!
yeah, that would be a great solution if regurgitating your entire upper bowl was the desired result. Great advice, not. The human mouth secretes plenty of alkalis to compliment the acids the stomach produces. However, dumping that into a disturbed and very acidic stomach would be the equivalent of combining baking soda and vineager to propell a plastic rocket skyward. The resulting chemical outcome is a base but the process to get there is quite violent.
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Have you ever posted anything relavent or intelligent? Hell, even when you attempted to hire me over a year ago you failed to possess the brain power to grasp even simple logic.

"the pink stuff" ? Do you even know what you're talking about? No.
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I have Esophageal Reflux and an Ulcer... found when I was 18..
I've tried every script, otc, home remedy there ever was...

Some would work (pepcid, tagament, zantac, etc..)... but after a couple weeks, they stopped unless I popped them about every hour or so.
Tums never did anything, Pepto made me wanna puke.

I've seen a a few doctors here and there... none ever mentioned any surgery... always a new script.

The only thing that ever stopped it temporarily (for a quick fix) was whole milk.

The only thing that stopped the (constant) heartburn completely was Prilosec, and now Nexium.

I've been on one then the other for several years now, no heartburn since.
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I forgot that side affect... I'm now totally lactose intollerant because of the surgery. Before it I could and did drink about a gallon of milk a day - now 4oz of milk will cause me to need a nap for a couple hours.
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Old 06-24-2004, 03:31 AM   #23
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Thanks so much, Venturi.

I would prefer getting the information from someone who has been there...done that! I have found that most doctors don't tell you the facts. Either they don't know enough or they just prefer telling you as little as possible for fear of a lawsuit down the line.

My nephew had a hernia. He got it by lifting extremely heavy items at his construction job. Workers Comp told him to see one of their doctors. The hernia was pointed out. The next day, my nephew had surgery where he was in and out in five hours. Days went by and he was still in pain. He went back to the Workers Comp doctor who had performed the surgery, and surprise...surprise! The doctor operated on the wrong hernia. It seems my nephew had two hernias. The one that was painful and pointed out to the doctor was not removed. I told my nephew to check with an attorney. I found one for him, but he decided to go back to the very doctor who performed the first surgery, and had him remove the second hernia.

The doctor was in his own little world. How could you not see and feel two hernias...side by side. My nephew missed additional work and lost money. I told him about *hiatal hernias* and asked him to be checked for having one as well as checking out his gallbladder. Of course, the Workers Comp people would not cover the other tests. After screwing up his surgery, that is the least they could do for him.

For the most part, in my mind, the medical system sucks!!!!!
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