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KRL 06-22-2004 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Maybe, but who gave the US the right to dispose of the future of that country...

If really the Iraqis had asked and collaborated to the"liberation" that would be one story,
but this is a violent and repressive occupation that is backfiring : more terror acts and more terrorism than ever.

:2 cents:

As the world's leading super power it is not our inherent right, but it is our inherent responsibility to propogate the system that works best and that my friend is freedom, liberty, capitalism and democracy.

:thumbsup

jade_dragon 06-22-2004 05:06 PM

Playing devil's advocate here just remember that.

War means you kill the other side. If you are in the military or a militant you will do so. If you are in the military your opinions do not matter you do it because it is your job. If you are a militant it is ALL based on opinion, you MAKE it your job.

A country is not at war with another, the people in power in those countries fight each other using those they can get to do it.

Damage has been done to them in the past that a lot of us in our infinite wisdom do not know about. To some of them these actions are justified by that, to others it is not.

If killing yourself while killing large amounts of people is cowardly then i ask you, are you brave enough to be as cowardly as they were? Anytime you can overcome the fear of death and cause harm to yourself outside of an escape from how "terrible" the world is to you then I find it hard to call it cowardly, this being said i can not call it truly honorable.

Those who are following the religion in its oldest and purist form will not be happy with us just pulling out. Just as the bible was used to get christians together to kill them on sight they too can be roused to kill all outsiders to dominate. So pulling out and saying we are sorry for all we have done to harm you will make many happy but to others our being on this planet and not being like them is a travesty and we should be purged. Some people want peace and others do not, but till we all get together and say let's all hold hands and mean it, there will be war.

The arabs have been saying this would all happen for a while, some of us who are not typical westerners who admit there is life outside of North/South America and Europe have heard it and watched them make it true. This is not about 911 or even desert storm, not alone. This war started long ago before any of us were even here.....some people know how to hold a grudge!

jade_dragon 06-22-2004 05:13 PM

Someone answer me this.

America walks with a big stick right? By stick I mean military power and more particuraly nuclear weapons (weapons of mass destruction)

Who the hell gave us the democratic right to be the only one with them? Why should the rest of the world allow us to have all the weapons when they have none? Because WE are the GOOD guys?

Most of us do not allow the police to be the only ones with guns, to propose such would be called STUPID amongst other things. So why on a larger scale do you think that because we are in America WE are the good guys and only WE should have nukes? Because WE know WE will not launch them and we know they will. How do THEY know that. Even in our mentality in the west, the best way to keep someone honest who has a gun is to have one yourself. So how exactly do we get to tell other countries that because we would be afriad of them if they had just as much fire power that they can not have it?

When you can answer that logically then you will have something. Plain and simple we do not trust anyone else and no one else has been shown beyong a shadow of a doubt whey they should trust us, so fuckin right they are going to arm themselves. Sorry to say it but if we have them other people are going to try to have them. Disarming everyone would do it but that is impossible, there will always be someone wanting an ace up their sleeve. Sometimes there is no clean answer, sometimes there is only war.

Shok 06-22-2004 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by jade_dragon
America walks with a big stick right? By stick I mean military power and more particuraly nuclear weapons (weapons of mass destruction)

Who the hell gave us the democratic right to be the only one with them? Why should the rest of the world allow us to have all the weapons when they have none? Because WE are the GOOD guys?


last I checked, more than just the US has nuclear weapons.
It's in the best interest of the entire world to not let fringe countries have nuclear weapons.
And if we have to go kick ass on some country developing them because we feel threatened that they might wake up in a bad mood one day and use them, then so be it. A country like Pakistan having nuclear arms is extremely scary as it is.

AdnerAdvertising 06-22-2004 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by cyberxxx
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yeah you're right... making iraqi prisoners look ridiculous is so much worst than killing over 3,000 people in the WTC. Fucking dumbass. It's a war there are casualties get over it, we had to. :321GFY

directfiesta 06-22-2004 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
As the world's leading super power it is not our inherent right, but it is our inherent responsibility to propogate the system that works best and that my friend is freedom, liberty, capitalism and democracy.

:thumbsup

Used to be called Collonialism :thumbsup

directfiesta 06-22-2004 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Shok
because we threw a dart at a fucking big ass globe and they lost thats why.
LOL... I must admit, this made me laugh... :thumbsup

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Originally posted by Shok
you keep forgetting that there were many months leading up to the war. Sadaam was warned too many times to let weapons inspectors into the country and into facilities.
How long did the games have to go on?

You keep forgetting that UN inspectors were in Iraq, a declaration of weapons was supplied by the Iraqi gov and they even offered to let US army inspectors look for the so-called and elusive WMD.:2 cents:

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Originally posted by Shok
Now he's fucking gone and Iraq will be a better place one day soon like Dubai or Kuwait, but for now there will be a shit storm. But things will be better when the dust eventually clears.
This is word for word what Bush repeats over and over again... seems to work.

Buff 06-22-2004 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
Fuck, that sucks. That guy begging for his life and the militant shouting sent chills down my spine. Watching that makes it clear that the Berg video was fake... the guys in the Korean video were terrorists, and that guy was really begging for his life. Not a bunch of calm white terrorists and a calm victim.
Hahaha!

I wonder if people take you seriously. Nah, I don't wonder. They know you're an idiot. I wonder if your business suffers because people think you're stupid....

CamChicks 06-22-2004 06:46 PM

This is what happens when they don't teach proper world history, geography, or current events in school... ...year after year of 'founding fathers' worship and coloring maps of confederate states is considered more important. :disgust

EviLSuperstaR 06-23-2004 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
Do you guys even understand anything about Iraq? You act like you're all experts but you speak without understanding the situation.

Iraq is far better off without living under a tyrannt, except for all his henchmen that are still out there but are no longer getting a free ride like they were under Saddam.

The region is better off without Saddam. Every head of state has said that.

Gosh, you ARE a stupid idiot that slavely watches FAUX news. Wake up in the real world, motherfucker!

EviLSuperstaR 06-23-2004 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
yeah you're right... making iraqi prisoners look ridiculous is so much worst than killing over 3,000 people in the WTC. Fucking dumbass. It's a war there are casualties get over it, we had to. :321GFY
Killing over 10,000 civilians and ruining an entire country (that has NOTHING to do with 9/11) for oil is indeed much worse than 3,000 people in WTC. Get some sense of reality, you stupid fuckface!

Shok 06-23-2004 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by EviLSuperstaR
Gosh, you ARE a stupid idiot that slavely watches FAUX news. Wake up in the real world, motherfucker!
another tin foil hat sold


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