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SteveLightspeed · 06-17-2004, 12:40 PM

I just saw the new Ibill banner

We missed you.
We want you back.
Let's get busy.

I'd like to add to that:

We missed you (cuz now our company is dying)

We want you back (so we can steal more of your money)

Let's get busy (avoiding your phone calls and lying to you at conventions)

Ibill wants customers back?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hey IBILL --- PAY ME the MONEY you OWE me, and I'll tell everyone how great the NEW IBILL is... until then, you are the same ol shitty assholes that don't give a fuck about this industry and don't understand a goddamned thing about TRUST

Steve Lightspeed

KRosh · 06-17-2004, 12:46 PM

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chAos · 06-17-2004, 12:47 PM

can you tell me how you really feel .. LOL ...

i hear that ibill has great 900 system right ..

[Brian] · 06-17-2004, 12:48 PM

IBilk

iFliPcEss · 06-17-2004, 12:48 PM

ohh I smell drama here... where's Ibill rep?

BradM · 06-17-2004, 12:48 PM

I noticed the banner too and I was just waiting for one of these threads to come up. But from you.. that's a nice suprise.

Johny Traffic · 06-17-2004, 12:49 PM

good banner though, clever idea now there back in the porn game

Porn4abuck · 06-17-2004, 12:50 PM

DOH!!

Reak · 06-17-2004, 12:50 PM

Hmmmmmmmm

Reak · 06-17-2004, 12:51 PM

Whats going on ?

SteveLightspeed · 06-17-2004, 12:52 PM

They apparently can afford to go to conventions, and buy advertising -- but their budget seems to end where it counts -- PAYING THEIR DEBT

Garrett Bender told me "If we pay you, we'll have to pay everyone!"

OH NO!!! NOT THAT!!!!

Is that the kind of company you want to trust with your billing?

BT · 06-17-2004, 12:52 PM

Reak · 06-17-2004, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
They apparently can afford to go to conventions, and buy advertising -- but their budget seems to end where it counts -- PAYING THEIR DEBT

Garrett Bender told me "If we pay you, we'll have to pay everyone!"

OH NO!!! NOT THAT!!!!

Is that the kind of company you want to trust with your billing?

I use them too, better tell me some more details ?

Manowar · 06-17-2004, 12:56 PM

Drama, from Steve Lightspeed ?

must be serious

BradM · 06-17-2004, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
Drama, from Steve Lightspeed ?

must be serious

It's not drama. It's a case of a company owing another company money.

WiredGuy · 06-17-2004, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
They apparently can afford to go to conventions, and buy advertising -- but their budget seems to end where it counts -- PAYING THEIR DEBT

Garrett Bender told me "If we pay you, we'll have to pay everyone!"

OH NO!!! NOT THAT!!!!

Is that the kind of company you want to trust with your billing?

You were the first person I thought of when I saw that banner. If they want anyone's business back, they can start by paying up on their 900 billing. New management or new owners means jack all when they owe large debts.

WG

Reak · 06-17-2004, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
Drama, from Steve Lightspeed ?

must be serious

If it is serious.. he should take them to the court

Calvinguy · 06-17-2004, 01:00 PM

Why is he so anal about Ibill? If I used ccbill as my primary I would have lost more money because of their scrubbing

SteveLightspeed · 06-17-2004, 01:02 PM

I don't think Ibill has "customers", I think they have "victims"

Hope I don't sound too bitter!

Lets see a post from Garrett Bender about why he doesn't think he should have to pay all the people that got fucked when Worldcom died. Ibill has a supplier problem, and passed it on to the sponsors. We paid out to our affiliates MONEY WE NEVER GOT from Ibill.

Let everyone see for themselves, and decide for themselves who can and can't be trusted.

Steve Lightspeed

SomeCreep · 06-17-2004, 01:10 PM

Some people seem to love Ibill, but I have heard enough bad opinions about them from reputable webmasters/program owners to conclude that I will never use them as a main or secondary processor.

wiggitywack · 06-17-2004, 01:15 PM

I've been using gx900.com since the "Ibill no pay me on 900" fiasco and the results have been solid.

Also getting phone sales on Int'l users which Ibill still doesnt support. They are a good choice for 900 billing if you're still looking for one

SleazyDream · 06-17-2004, 01:17 PM

i dont' understand why companies that rip people off think their name is still valueable -why not make a new company name and pretend you're brand new instead of carring all that baggage with you.

body · 06-17-2004, 01:20 PM

yikes

dunefield · 06-17-2004, 01:21 PM

who's supplying the popcorn?

axelcat · 06-17-2004, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
I just saw the new Ibill banner

We missed you.
We want you back.
Let's get busy.

I'd like to add to that:

We missed you (cuz now our company is dying)

We want you back (so we can steal more of your money)

Let's get busy (avoiding your phone calls and lying to you at conventions)

Ibill wants customers back?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hey IBILL --- PAY ME the MONEY you OWE me, and I'll tell everyone how great the NEW IBILL is... until then, you are the same ol shitty assholes that don't give a fuck about this industry and don't understand a goddamned thing about TRUST

Steve Lightspeed

Johny Traffic · 06-17-2004, 01:23 PM

Quote:

why not make a new company name and pretend you're brand new instead of carring all that baggage with you

Probably wouldnt take long for people to realise

But Ive never used Ibill so had no experience of them, but I did just sign up yesterday to them

chAos · 06-17-2004, 01:30 PM

this is not drama this is something that Ibill did to a lot of companies .. web 900 sux ass ...

Ice · 06-17-2004, 01:30 PM

Ohhh my... quite the post Steve, I feel sorry for the next person that fucks you over.

I know they owe me cash from web900 but Im not gonna hold my breath

DatingGold · 06-17-2004, 01:50 PM

Just curious if they owe money why don't you sue them?

oldnewbie · 06-17-2004, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reak
I use them too, better tell me some more details ?

A few years ago Worldcom went bye-bye and didn't pay Ibill for web900 subscriptions. Ibill figured if they didn't get paid, they didn't have to pay their webmasters.

LadyMischief · 06-17-2004, 01:56 PM

It's good for people to know about stuff like this. You probably won't get paid on your debt, Steve, but who knows, miracles can happen! ;)

jact · 06-17-2004, 01:57 PM

Steve, you're dead bang on with this one. New company or not, you bought the debt too, pay up and make good. Who cares if Worldcom didn't pay iBill, iBill sure as hell should be making good on their debts.

oldnewbie · 06-17-2004, 02:03 PM

I'm curious... If the new owners did pay the web900 debt off, how many of you, who don't use Ibill now, would switch to Ibill as your processor, or add Ibill as one of your processors?

JFK · 06-17-2004, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chAos
can you tell me how you really feel .. LOL ...

i hear that ibill has great 900 system right ..

Do they Really ?

NETbilling · 06-17-2004, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
I just saw the new Ibill banner

We missed you.
We want you back.
Let's get busy.

I'd like to add to that:

We missed you (cuz now our company is dying)

We want you back (so we can steal more of your money)

Let's get busy (avoiding your phone calls and lying to you at conventions)

Ibill wants customers back?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hey IBILL --- PAY ME the MONEY you OWE me, and I'll tell everyone how great the NEW IBILL is... until then, you are the same ol shitty assholes that don't give a fuck about this industry and don't understand a goddamned thing about TRUST

Steve Lightspeed

Interesting thread.

Mitch

Shoplifter · 06-17-2004, 02:17 PM

Ibill has been doing very very right by us lately, their scrub is just right and payouts are on time.

Why they decided to stiff everyone on the Worldcom loss who knows. The amounts were probably not that significant and certainly they have lost more in bad pr. I can only hope whomever made the decision to do this is long gone.

WiredGuy · 06-17-2004, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter
The amounts were probably not that significant and certainly they have lost more in bad pr.

Tell that to the sponsors who took a huge hit but yet paid their webmasters. They were hit twice as hard.

WG

JSA Matt · 06-17-2004, 05:58 PM

tony286 · 06-17-2004, 06:14 PM

They didnt stiff anyone they didnt get paid. Stiffing is you get paid and then dont pay the ones you owe money too. To pay your affiliates was a business choice you made. I was in sales for 10 yrs I didnt get paid my commisions until my company got paid. It didnt matter if I cried and yelled thats not fair until that money came in I didnt get a dime. Also if one month I dont get paid for something I dont keep it on my site. Ibill has been great for us and has always done the right thing for credit cards they rock but I dont do 900 because getting paid sucks and my checks are done by WTS bank so I am not a pollyanna but I think you are being over the top about this. You think the other third party processors would of paid you if they didnt get paid thats funny lol.

The Dawg · 06-17-2004, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
We want you back (so we can steal more of your money)

Thats for damn sure!

Lensman · 06-17-2004, 06:26 PM

I agree with Tony,

Posted by me over a year ago!

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
The guys at Ibill are straight shooters. They didn't get paid for 900 when MCI went bankrupt. To be a theif, they would have to keep your money, which is not the case. They are a payment service provider, if they don't get the payment, then you don't either. Get over it, I'm frankly sick of the whining.

Old news, way past time to drop it.

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SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	New Ibill banner I just saw the new Ibill banner We missed you. We want you back. Let's get busy. I'd like to add to that: We missed you (cuz now our company is dying) We want you back (so we can steal more of your money) Let's get busy (avoiding your phone calls and lying to you at conventions) Ibill wants customers back? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Hey IBILL --- PAY ME the MONEY you OWE me, and I'll tell everyone how great the NEW IBILL is... until then, you are the same ol shitty assholes that don't give a fuck about this industry and don't understand a goddamned thing about TRUST Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra!

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SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	They apparently can afford to go to conventions, and buy advertising -- but their budget seems to end where it counts -- PAYING THEIR DEBT Garrett Bender told me "If we pay you, we'll have to pay everyone!" OH NO!!! NOT THAT!!!! Is that the kind of company you want to trust with your billing? __________________ Abra-cadabra!

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SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	I don't think Ibill has "customers", I think they have "victims" Hope I don't sound too bitter! Lets see a post from Garrett Bender about why he doesn't think he should have to pay all the people that got fucked when Worldcom died. Ibill has a supplier problem, and passed it on to the sponsors. We paid out to our affiliates MONEY WE NEVER GOT from Ibill. Let everyone see for themselves, and decide for themselves who can and can't be trusted. Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra!

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Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,734	Ibill has been doing very very right by us lately, their scrub is just right and payouts are on time. Why they decided to stiff everyone on the Worldcom loss who knows. The amounts were probably not that significant and certainly they have lost more in bad pr. I can only hope whomever made the decision to do this is long gone.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	They didnt stiff anyone they didnt get paid. Stiffing is you get paid and then dont pay the ones you owe money too. To pay your affiliates was a business choice you made. I was in sales for 10 yrs I didnt get paid my commisions until my company got paid. It didnt matter if I cried and yelled thats not fair until that money came in I didnt get a dime. Also if one month I dont get paid for something I dont keep it on my site. Ibill has been great for us and has always done the right thing for credit cards they rock but I dont do 900 because getting paid sucks and my checks are done by WTS bank so I am not a pollyanna but I think you are being over the top about this. You think the other third party processors would of paid you if they didnt get paid thats funny lol.