taboo_dude

This time with the Sept 11 commission hearings and report. This from the report: (please keep in mind that this was a bipartisan commission, meaning dems and republicans came to this conclusion. Not just members of the democratic party)

"Bin Ladin also explored possible cooperation with Iraq during his time in Sudan, despite his opposition to Hussein's secular regime. Bin Ladin had in fact at one time sponsored anti Saddon Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan. The Sudanese, to protect their own ties with Irag, reportedly persuaded Bin Laden to cease this support and arranged for contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda. A senior Iraqi intelligence officer reportedly made three visits to Sudan, finally meeting Bin Ladin in 1994. Bin Ladin is said to have requested space to establish training camps, as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but Iraq apparently never responded. There have been reports that contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda also occurred after Bin Laden had returned to Afghanistan, but they do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship. Two senior Bin Ladin associates have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al Qaeda and Iraq. WE HAVE NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE THAT IRAQ AND AL QAEDA COOPERATED ON ATTACKS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES. "

I repeat "WE HAVE NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE THAT IRAQ AND AL QAEDA COOPERATED ON ATTACKS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES".

http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearin...atement_15.pdf

Page 5 paragraph 4

Now let's look back to Powell's speech to the UN.

"But what I want to bring to your attention today is the potentially much more sinister nexus between Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network, a nexus that combines classic terrorist organizations and modern methods of murder. Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network headed by Abu Musab Zarqawi, an associate and collaborator of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda lieutenants. "

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/spr....09/index.html

3rd paragraph.

Here are some other links for your review:

Powell?s Al Qaeda-Baghdad link falls apart
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/fe...iraq-f14.shtml

Powell Offers No Apologies for Iraqi Intelligence Assessments
http://tokyo.usembassy.gov/e/p/tp-20040209-11.html

wow.......... check this out
http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/iraq_lies.html

When are these politicians going to learn that they are not going to be able to lie their way to what they want and get away with it. Now with the internet, research can be done so quickly that it isn't even funny. It took me thirty minutes to pull up every bit of this information. Information that would shock a lot of people if they knew the truth. It is alarming what is being said and preached to the people with the help of the media.....

As for Bush and his puppets, owned again.

Next week I will look up some more of your lies that are getting our serviceman and women killed on a daily basis.

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dropped9

When are you going to learn to read? Powel didnt say they were connected on the sept 11 plot. He just said they were connected.

AsylumN

don;t worry boys, Kerry is a lock in 2004. get out there and vote

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candyflip

Bush is the puppet.

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Bush and his regime are clear War criminal's and lieing fuckheads.

They must be arrested and executed for waging a false war, treason, crimes against humanity, violation of the Geneva Conventions.

Bush and his ilk are pure criminals cut and dry.

Its time to drag have them pulled out of the white house, locked up at Fort McClellan and shipped to Geneva for a tribunal.

After they are found guilty they should be handed back to the American people and quickly executed.

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Rich

I had a dream last night that after Kerry took the White House, he had Bush and all his cronies who committed war crimes arrested.

bringer

if thats the case, dont forget clinton

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taboo_dude

I guess that makes everything else they have lied about okay correct?

I was showing how Powell had lied to the UN in trying to persuade the UN to go to war with the US against Iraq. I know what Powell said. I sit and watched live on TV and BELIEVED IT, like millions of other Americans.

I am losing more and more faith in our goverment on daily basis. Mostly because of idiots like bush and his puppets. If we didn't have such pathological liars in the white house, it might nit be that bad. But for the past 4 years 3/4 of the crap that comes out of their mouths are lies.

It is frustrating to say the least. When you love the country as I do, to see how it is getting run and trashed by the current goverment and stooges.

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ItBurnsWhenIpee

When did anyone say we started the war because Iraq and Al Quaeda had ties?

People act like our only enemy is Al Quaeda. "Death to America" was written all over the inside of Baghdad Airport when reporters would fly in there.

Did you know Spider-Man is going to be taking on a completely different enemy in the sequel than he did in the first one? It is possible....

iFliPcEss

nice dream! i am trying to picture them on my mind on how would they look like in a prisoners uniform

bringer

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

UM ok...

If that what it takes to take out the Bush Administration...
Yeah shoot Clinton for getting a god damn Blow Job LOL or for missing targets by firing a couple missiles into some caves in a fucken desert!

Its good to see the American people so smart these days...

NOT.

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if you think these abuses and interrogation methods were enstated when bush came into office, you're an idiot.

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Tom_PMs

It's easy.
First we were going to Iraq because there was a direct link to terrorists.
Then we were going to iraq because they had WMD's that posed an "iminent threat" to us. (remember those rockets that could fly 10 more feet than they were allowed? And the modified planes they had to spread biological gasses over whole cities? And the remote drones that could um.. really wail on us?)
Then we were going there to liberate iraq and spread democracy to promote stability in the region.

The last reason was also proposed by Wolfie while Reagan was in office. They laughed it off as being "too radical".

Opportunity knocked people, opportunity knocked.

taboo_dude

Bringer, I am sorry but trying to compare that to what Bush has done is like comparing apples to oranges.

Yes bad on you Bill for saying that, but at least you had enough sense to not to drag us into another war we did not need, causing the loss of life in the thousands, and for not causing a 7.2 trillion national debt.

That is 24,559.14 more in debt that I didn't need

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

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Ricky Dynamite

This time around we're either voting for a Christian-right moron, or a pancake. I choose the lesser of two evils, Kerry.

ItBurnsWhenIpee

Yeah the 7.2 trillion is all cause of the war...keep dreaming

warlock667

Yes! Open your eyes you damn anti-Bush sheep! you're running out of straws. Iraq was never publicly linked to 911 nor was it ever a cited reason for the invasion of Iraq! Open that new thing called a search engine and find out what the stated reasons were, and what was presented to the world.

The 911 commission has confirmed the link between Iraq and terrorism. Hamas, Abu-Nadal, AND Al-Quaeda! Noone ever said that Iraq was responsible for 911. Prove me wrong, please!

Let's look at evil Bush's lies in his speech to the country on the eve of the Invasion... hmmm

"And it has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al Qaeda."
- proven true over and over again. I don't see anywhere in that text accusing Iraq of involvement in 911...

where did we say that, again?

Rich

No, it means he's informed. This tourture was brought in by Rumsfeld and co, are you seriously arguing that?

Rich

Actually if you watch this week's Frontline, most of those cruz missile's hit Al Queda training camps and killed a lot of bad guys. That's just another incorrect republican talking point, they used it 5 years ago too but then it was "there's no threat, he's only doing this to take attention off of Monica".

Rich

Well they would have, but he was buying a lot of chemical weapons from the US back then.



Thanks for helping "liberate" the kurds along with Saddam, Rumsfeld/Reagan/Bush.

Centurion

Bush has come out and totally refuted the 9/11 report, especially the part saying their was no Al Qaeda connection with Iraq.

He said, "That's not true! There was an Al Qaeda connection with Iraq!"

Shit..I think that pretty well proves his point!

taboo_dude

I will help you First learn how to type or figure out what you are least trying to say.

"Iraq was never publicly linked to 911 nor was it ever a cited reason for the invasion of Iraq!"

Iraq was never cited for the reason for the invasion of Iraq?

- proven true over and over again. I don't see anywhere in that text accusing Iraq of involvement in 911...

where did we say that, again?

As I said earlier, I'm not trying or saying their is a direct link from Iraq to 9/11,

What I am saying is and proving is how the Bush goverment will lie or say anything in order to advance their agendas. I like how Tom_PM put it.

> It's easy.
First we were going to Iraq because there was a direct link to terrorists.
Then we were going to iraq because they had WMD's that posed an "iminent threat" to us. (remember those rockets that could fly 10 more feet than they were allowed? And the modified planes they had to spread biological gasses over whole cities? And the remote drones that could um.. really wail on us?)
Then we were going there to liberate iraq and spread democracy to promote stability in the region.

They just can't seem to get their shit in one pile.

BTW you bush ass lickers. I am nor republican nor democrat, nor liberal, nor independent. I am US citizen that is tired of the shit that is happening now. If it was a democrat in office doing these things, I would be giving them hell just as I am giving bush hell.

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Tom_PMs

Just ask it this way.

If they got up and told us from day 1 that we were going into iraq to liberate the iraqi people to bring democracy and stability to the region, would the US public have supported it as a top priority?

I'm *guessing* a resounding NO.. get Osama for craps sake!

s'ok though. November is closing in fast.

And when people get that far with the argument, usually the supproters of the policy then say something like "Saddam was in violation of 17 UN resolutions!" Yeah well, thats true! So dont try to sell us shit, sell us on the ACTUAL features, advantages and benefits of an invasion. If we can picture it being a good thing, we'll buy it on it's own merits.

I'm just sick of the shit, lol. Pretty simple.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Bwa Hahaha!
Wrong...

Clinton never violated the Geneva conventions he just handed bad guys over to governments that are not part of the Geneva Convention.

There are right ways to do things and wrong ways to do things.

All the blood is on Bushes hands and signed by his blood filled ink pen.

They didnt Call Bill Clinton nothing by calling em "Slick Willie".
Bill Clinton knew what he was doing and stayed within the laws of the world order and had COMPLETE NATO support at all times in all military actions.

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