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pimplink · 06-16-2004, 06:34 PM

Let us see then we can decide...

kush · 06-16-2004, 06:39 PM

If I were you I would completely blur it out and use it.

There are limits to what I will promote, and fisting is beyond that limit.

Elli · 06-16-2004, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by Martin
Wait is the same Lensmon that owns gfy? Have you ever seem some of the stuff posted here??

He may be slightly more liable if he posts and hosts the picture himself, than if some surfer hotlinks a picture in.

pornstar2pac · 06-16-2004, 06:41 PM

Peter Romero · 06-16-2004, 06:41 PM

ask www.alsscan.com - I have thier number.

Tons of fisting there.

Jimmer · 06-16-2004, 06:44 PM

I would post it on my site.

freeadultcontent · 06-16-2004, 06:51 PM

The legalities of it are very much in question and a grey area like anything considered obscene.

Maplethorpe did have his gay anal fisting photo found not obscene in Ohio of all places. A couple of producers have also beat the obscenity laws on it.

Do keep in mind we are in California where the Miller test was born. Obviously this picture was taken not purely for sexual deviance or gratification but as a contest entry into a photography (art) contest.

Yes generally though four fingers or less is the rule, thumb should be on the outside. This of course if for pornography. I do think (far from being a lawyer) that since it was indeed shot for a photography exhibit that it would clearly fall into the realm of art and thus pass one of the Miller prongs. This weeks entries are of course judged on creativity and photography while wearing a given set of articles.

NickPapageorgio · 06-16-2004, 06:54 PM

I know I am just posting something that has been posted by a thousand other people probably but I can't hold it anymore. This has got to be the absolute dumbest law I have ever heard of. Sometimes this country just makes you shake your head and laugh.

Shoehorn! · 06-16-2004, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
exactly... thats the problem with obsenity laws in the US... Its a matter of personal opinions... which is dangerous for a society.. those laws are not based on logical reasonings.. but on moral ideals... moral ideals inspired at the base by religion... sex is dirty etc.. Which opens the door to some frightening things... just look at some countries in the middle east for more extreme exemples..

The thing is the state has no business telling grown consenting adults whats obscene/immoral and what is not...

So fucking true.

Martin · 06-16-2004, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
He may be slightly more liable if he posts and hosts the picture himself, than if some surfer hotlinks a picture in.

Yeah true. Holy shit my spelling was bad there.

mary34d · 06-16-2004, 07:11 PM

Ask Rick.

I think that as long as the knuckle on the thumb doesn't go in it's ok.

www.xxxlaw.com

Fletch XXX · 06-16-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Tala
....One nation under survellience....

One Nation Under The Gun

baddog · 06-16-2004, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by Lensman
It's the whole fucking hand up to the wrist, kind of clever actually.

my understanding that is illegal in the US, I would not chance it myself

Easton · 06-16-2004, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
What's the laws on that stuff? Anyone have a link to that.

It's holding everything up.

fisting is legal in Canada, so if it's from a Canadian girl it's fine

if you are worried, i'll host the pic for you... no worries

Fletch XXX · 06-16-2004, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
my understanding that is illegal in the US, I would not chance it myself

so is sodomy in some states, most on this board dont care about that.

baddog · 06-16-2004, 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
well, shit....i am working on ashley blues site and that is what she is known for.....whole fists up her ass....damn, i need to inform here them

yep

Faith69 · 06-16-2004, 07:19 PM

i haven't read all the posts, but fisting is illegal and you can't legally post pics of that...

baddog · 06-16-2004, 07:24 PM

so, I went to Google, and did a search for fisting images, and could not find any with the thumb in that were still up

SomeCreep · 06-16-2004, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
exactly... thats the problem with obsenity laws in the US... Its a matter of personal opinions... which is dangerous for a society.. those laws are not based on logical reasonings.. but on moral ideals... moral ideals inspired at the base by religion... sex is dirty etc.. Which opens the door to some frightening things... just look at some countries in the middle east for more extreme exemples..

The thing is the state has no business telling grown consenting adults whats obscene/immoral and what is not...

The problem is, people as a group are so dumb, they need the government and religion telling them exactly what to do and how to live. This is the way it has always been.

NaughtyAlysha · 06-16-2004, 07:53 PM

OK, OK, I am the culprit. I only submitted the pic two days ago, and I just got an email a few hours ago saying that I had to resubmit a different picture. I wrote back and told them that I would just pull myself out of the contest.

Just so you know, there is no LAW that fisting is illegal. Please show me one, because I have yet to see it. Adam and I use one of the most well known attorneys (Lawrence Walters). He has reviewed the site, and hasn't told us to pull the plug, so to speak. We have been doing this for years, long before I started my website, and my site is just an extension of our lives.

Anyway, I have pulled myself out of the competition, so there is no reason to wait any longer. Sorry for the 2 day delay.

Alysha
NaughtyAlysha.com

NaughtyAlysha · 06-16-2004, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Faith69
i haven't read all the posts, but fisting is illegal and you can't legally post pics of that...

Please provide me with one link to prove that...

Alysha

SoBeGirl Video · 06-16-2004, 08:07 PM

I have a friend with no thumb... does that help?

JFK · 06-16-2004, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
What's the laws on that stuff? Anyone have a link to that.

It's holding everything up.

Well Thats a pain in the Ass

freeadultcontent · 06-16-2004, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NaughtyAlysha
OK, OK, I am the culprit. I only submitted the pic two days ago, and I just got an email a few hours ago saying that I had to resubmit a different picture. I wrote back and told them that I would just pull myself out of the contest.

Just so you know, there is no LAW that fisting is illegal. Please show me one, because I have yet to see it. Adam and I use one of the most well known attorneys (Lawrence Walters). He has reviewed the site, and hasn't told us to pull the plug, so to speak. We have been doing this for years, long before I started my website, and my site is just an extension of our lives.

Anyway, I have pulled myself out of the competition, so there is no reason to wait any longer. Sorry for the 2 day delay.

Alysha
NaughtyAlysha.com

Oh thats BS. Do not quit.

NaughtyJenn · 06-16-2004, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK
Well Thats a pain in the Ass

pardon the pun

emthree · 06-16-2004, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NaughtyAlysha
OK, OK, I am the culprit. I only submitted the pic two days ago, and I just got an email a few hours ago saying that I had to resubmit a different picture. I wrote back and told them that I would just pull myself out of the contest.

Just so you know, there is no LAW that fisting is illegal. Please show me one, because I have yet to see it. Adam and I use one of the most well known attorneys (Lawrence Walters). He has reviewed the site, and hasn't told us to pull the plug, so to speak. We have been doing this for years, long before I started my website, and my site is just an extension of our lives.

Anyway, I have pulled myself out of the competition, so there is no reason to wait any longer. Sorry for the 2 day delay.

Alysha
NaughtyAlysha.com

You get points for being creative, only on GFY can such shit happen!

I wont say anything further as you may still be recovering from vaginal damage.

Also: Since it is fine and legal on your end, please post the picture so we can all see what we're missing.

Sammy4u · 06-16-2004, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NaughtyAlysha
OK, OK, I am the culprit. I only submitted the pic two days ago, and I just got an email a few hours ago saying that I had to resubmit a different picture. I wrote back and told them that I would just pull myself out of the contest.

Just so you know, there is no LAW that fisting is illegal. Please show me one, because I have yet to see it. Adam and I use one of the most well known attorneys (Lawrence Walters). He has reviewed the site, and hasn't told us to pull the plug, so to speak. We have been doing this for years, long before I started my website, and my site is just an extension of our lives.

Anyway, I have pulled myself out of the competition, so there is no reason to wait any longer. Sorry for the 2 day delay.

Alysha
NaughtyAlysha.com

Don't pull yourself out Alysha. Please, we all want to see the pic.
Besides that, why should you quit over this. I don't think anyone would expect you to have to drop out.

Fletch XXX · 06-16-2004, 08:18 PM

never let the chrstians win.

never.

blood or death.

JFK · 06-16-2004, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NaughtyJenn
pardon the pun

he h e he You got it did you

jimmyf · 06-16-2004, 08:29 PM

don't quit Alysha, it's no big deal if you have time just submit another pic.

Lensman is just being safe and I don't blame him one bit nor should you or anyone else.

misty · 06-16-2004, 08:35 PM

I bet its Dugmor's girl!

Sammy4u · 06-16-2004, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by misty
I bet its Dugmor's girl!

Alysha just said it was herself. She is an independant and damn good at what she does. :-)

Tala · 06-16-2004, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
One Nation Under The Gun

Sappy · 06-16-2004, 08:41 PM

I wonder if Google will notice the sudden increase in searches for "fisting laws"...

misty · 06-16-2004, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sappy
I wonder if Google will notice the sudden increase in searches for "fisting laws"...

Google is the Matrix.

mary34d · 06-16-2004, 08:56 PM

Lens, you're one of the most mellow, smartest, down to earth, people I know (and i don't suck up, as you know). So, I called a lawyer friend who is well known at the conventions and here is what he said on the obscenity laws.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=313688

mary34d · 06-16-2004, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by misty
I bet its Dugmor's girl!

that's his sister

stevo · 06-16-2004, 09:02 PM

Just blur it out... and all will be good.

neewwman · 06-16-2004, 09:11 PM

I can't believe the myths that you find on a webmaster board. In the U.S. there is no "fisting law." There is no "law against fisting." There is no law that you can't put the thumb in. (Or, if some jurisdiction has passed such a law, the law is of no effect unless the content is also found to be obscene).

Any or all of these things might be found "obscene" by a jury reviewing the content, taken as a whole.

But note that Bruce Taylor of the Justice Department thinks that plain vanilla hardcore that is in every video store is prosecutable obscenity!

Easton · 06-16-2004, 09:26 PM

well even if fisting may or may not be illegal in the US, as i said... i'll host the dam thing myself cuz fisting is known to be legal in Canada (ask Steve Sweet)... or just throw it on a Dutch or Danish server

problem solved

Oberon · 06-16-2004, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NickPapageorgio
I know I am just posting something that has been posted by a thousand other people probably but I can't hold it anymore. This has got to be the absolute dumbest law I have ever heard of. Sometimes this country just makes you shake your head and laugh.

In Canada obscenity charges are based on a 'community standards' guideline, which, loosely paraphrased is:

'If it's something you'd be ok with your neighbors doing if they kept it to themselves, and vice versa, it's ok. If people don't even want it in their neighborhood no matter if they never have to see it or hear it, it's obscene'.

So obviously, open to a lot of intepretation, but in general probably the most fair way to allow for a standard that has some relevance to the local community and not just what Bob on the East Coast thinks about it or whatever.

Not that we don't have our own fucked up laws, like the one where anal sex is illegal if more than two people are present. So that pretty much makes any anal sex scenes shot in Canada illegal, assuming the photographer isn't one of the participants.

Oberon · 06-16-2004, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Easton
fisting is legal in Canada, so if it's from a Canadian girl it's fine

if you are worried, i'll host the pic for you... no worries

depends where you live, actually.
See my previous comment.

Faith69 · 06-16-2004, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
Oh thats BS. Do not quit.

I agree... not very tough skin for GFY... just submit another pic, or blur the one you sent...

Easton · 06-16-2004, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oberon
depends where you live, actually.
See my previous comment.

see "Location"

Quebec has gotta be the most lax province in Canada

mary34d · 06-16-2004, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by neewwman
I can't believe the myths that you find on a webmaster board. In the U.S. there is no "fisting law." There is no "law against fisting." There is no law that you can't put the thumb in. (Or, if some jurisdiction has passed such a law, the law is of no effect unless the content is also found to be obscene).

Any or all of these things might be found "obscene" by a jury reviewing the content, taken as a whole.

But note that Bruce Taylor of the Justice Department thinks that plain vanilla hardcore that is in every video store is prosecutable obscenity!

no, but there are obscenity laws here
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=313688

NaughtyAlysha · 06-16-2004, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
don't quit Alysha, it's no big deal if you have time just submit another pic.

Lensman is just being safe and I don't blame him one bit nor should you or anyone else.

I never said I blamed him. I understand. I just can't take another pic tonight, as all of our equipment is at the office. We are busy all day tomorrow, so that is out too. Adam coaches a softball team, so even tomorrow night is out. I have held the competition up apparently for the last two days, and I don't want to hold it up any longer. If I can't use the pic I submitted, then just go on without me. No worries.

BTW, the pic is not on my server, so I can't post a link to it. We took it, then sent it to GFY via email. It is on one of the computers at the office. It was a pic of me, sitting on the floor, with a sign that says
GFY = Go Fist Yourself??
Of course, I had a fist in my pussy, and I was wearing the tank top and I had the panties pulled to the side, to make room for Mr. Hand. Oh yeah, my leg was behind my head... lol.

Alysha

Easton · 06-16-2004, 09:34 PM

dayum, too bad...

NaughtyAlysha · 06-16-2004, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Faith69
I agree... not very tough skin for GFY... just submit another pic, or blur the one you sent...

My skin is as tough as anyone elses... yours included.

I explained why I couldn't submit another pic, and I don't want to hold the competition up until I can take one, which would probably be this weekend at the earliest. I am dropping out to HELP YOU, and the others in this contest, so that there is no more wait. Geez.

As for blurring the pic, we were told that the pics can't be edited or Photoshopped, etc. Blurring would put the pic in that category. I wasn't, however, told that we can't use fisting pictures.

I still want to see that "fisting is illegal" law you spoke of earlier.

pornstar2pac · 06-16-2004, 09:39 PM

sell it on Ebay

badmunchkin · 06-16-2004, 09:42 PM

yea, beastiality images are illegal too - but that doesn't seem to stop the "sobegirl getting fucked up the ass by a german shepherd" pic that is circulating here daily

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NaughtyAlysha Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 1,843	OK, OK, I am the culprit. I only submitted the pic two days ago, and I just got an email a few hours ago saying that I had to resubmit a different picture. I wrote back and told them that I would just pull myself out of the contest. Just so you know, there is no LAW that fisting is illegal. Please show me one, because I have yet to see it. Adam and I use one of the most well known attorneys (Lawrence Walters). He has reviewed the site, and hasn't told us to pull the plug, so to speak. We have been doing this for years, long before I started my website, and my site is just an extension of our lives. Anyway, I have pulled myself out of the competition, so there is no reason to wait any longer. Sorry for the 2 day delay. Alysha NaughtyAlysha.com __________________ ExtremeBank.com, the EXTREME program for NaughtyAlysha.com.

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jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	don't quit Alysha, it's no big deal if you have time just submit another pic. Lensman is just being safe and I don't blame him one bit nor should you or anyone else. __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

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