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European Lee · 09-21-2004, 09:19 PM

Told one of your competitors about a site of yours they were designing before it was finished and the said competitor then started to get a similar site designed?

We're talking a totally UNIQUE niche idea here that you would never think of in a thousand years.

Well i dont know if you would be but i certainly fucking am!

Regards,

Lee

brizzad · 09-21-2004, 09:21 PM

since you're so generous with handing out the regards, ill bump this thread for you

Spunky · 09-21-2004, 09:21 PM

Yes ,I would be extremely pissed but you just have to work harder and smarter marketing it.

Freakster · 09-21-2004, 09:23 PM

what niche? :D

no joke, I would be real mad.. they can't do that..

European Lee · 09-21-2004, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by spunky1
Yes ,I would be extremely pissed but you just have to work harder and smarter marketing it.

No i dont thats what we have lawyers for.

These guys site will never see the light of day

The designer well, thats a whole other world of hurt they just entered

Regards,

Lee

xlogger · 09-21-2004, 09:23 PM

Regards

Freakster · 09-21-2004, 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
No i dont thats what we have lawyers for.

These guys site will never see the light of day

The designer well, thats a whole other world of hurt they just entered

Regards,

Lee

I'm sure the site will see the light of day as they didn't cheat you... the designer did, and they should get it up there.

dropped9 · 09-21-2004, 09:24 PM

karma

cold_ice · 09-21-2004, 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by Freakster
I'm sure the site will see the light of day as they didn't cheat you... the designer did, and they should get it up there.

Yeah thats fucked up, you should post who the designer is so we all can avoid shit like this.

Tom_PMs · 09-21-2004, 09:27 PM

Yep I'd be pissed to put it lightly..
Never hired a designer, but I've already thought that if I did, I'd need some nice contract including non-disclosure of designs in progress. I'm surprised theres a loophole allowing it honestly.
Sucks bad.

Mutt · 09-21-2004, 09:28 PM

you have a right to be extremely pissed. if you have proof i'd think of suing. if a concept is that important to you you should have had the designer sign an NDA ........ even without the NDA i still think you have some legal ground to stand on if you can prove a designer handed your idea to a competitor.

out the designer, you will be doing a service to everybody!

czarina · 09-21-2004, 09:30 PM

post who the designing company is. It may help us avoid them!

Fukeneh · 09-21-2004, 09:30 PM

i too would be fucking irate.

Freakster · 09-21-2004, 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by czarina
post who the designing company is. It may help us avoid them!

as suggested by a few, I agree with this as well..

Spunky · 09-21-2004, 09:38 PM

What's going to stop anybody to try to copy the niche once it is released? It happens all the time.I think you are going to be wasting your money on a lawyer.Maybe they can't copy the design but it isn't against the law doing the same niche.

xxxoutsourcing · 09-21-2004, 11:11 PM

Hi Lee - maybe get a confidentiality agreement with your design company in the future.

A C · 09-22-2004, 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing
Hi Lee - maybe get a confidentiality agreement with your design company in the future.

shoulda had him sign a nda for SURE especially if it was a sensitive idea, secondly dont work with people you dont know or dont have good references

And like someone said earlier, after you release it will only be a matter of weeks before another company copies you, assuming your idea is good hehe. But i agree that beeing the first to do it holds its own value...

AC

basschick · 09-22-2004, 01:05 AM

wow, lee - that's totally messed up. i hope it isn't the designer i first thought it might be.

i would be fucking PISSED!

liquidmoe · 09-22-2004, 01:09 AM

Just wondering if you approached the designer regarding this entire ordeal and what their comments were on the matter. Did they fess up, play innocent, try to cover it up.. ?

clickhappy · 09-22-2004, 01:14 AM

People tell each others ideas ALL THE TIME.

Its the weirdest thing with this business. Someone at my hosting company has showed me pages by other hosting customers and told me how successful those pages were. Even showed me how to look at their site stats to see how much traffic theyre getting, and who is sending the most.

I've had conversations on icq where people just start spilling their guts about their most successful advertisement designs FOR NO REASON. I never asked them or anything. I guess theyre so proud they want everyone to know lol

liquidmoe · 09-22-2004, 01:17 AM

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Originally posted by clickhappy
People tell each others ideas ALL THE TIME.

Its the weirdest thing with this business. Someone at my hosting company has showed me pages by other hosting customers and told me how successful those pages were. Even showed me how to look at their site stats to see how much traffic theyre getting, and who is sending the most.

I've had conversations on icq where people just start spilling their guts about their most successful advertisement designs FOR NO REASON. I never asked them or anything. I guess theyre so proud they want everyone to know lol

It's one thing when a person volunteers information regarding their own business or practices, but its another when someone volunteers information regarding other peoples business. Information that this party would never have access to except for the fact that they provide them a service.

Your hosting company is doing some fuckt up shit in my opinion revealing that information to you.

clickhappy · 09-22-2004, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe

Your hosting company is doing some fuckt up shit in my opinion revealing that information to you.

yeah. im too lazy to act on the ideas though haha.
But it taught me not to tell anyone things that I'm working on, because they'll definetely tell others.

xclusive · 09-22-2004, 01:24 AM

Of course sue the fuck out of them and let everybody know who that person or company is. I am a designer myself and I mostly do my own stuff but when I do a project I have it in the contract if I can discuss it or not. I always keep my word on that also. Because it's his or hers intelectual property and I respect that...

Roald · 09-22-2004, 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by basschick
wow, lee - that's totally messed up. i hope it isn't the designer i first thought it might be.

i would be fucking PISSED!

it wasn't me ;)

Lace · 09-22-2004, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by xlogger
Regards

Regards,

Lace

(just fucking with ya Lee.)

mammy · 09-22-2004, 09:05 AM

hate those fucking designers!

SD Qball · 09-22-2004, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Told one of your competitors about a site of yours they were designing before it was finished and the said competitor then started to get a similar site designed?

We're talking a totally UNIQUE niche idea here that you would never think of in a thousand years.

Well i dont know if you would be but i certainly fucking am!

Regards,

Lee

Simple solution. Hire an in house designer, with a non-disclosure and confidentiality agreement, and keep your law-dogs on retainer. Problem solved.

Reak · 09-22-2004, 10:27 AM

sucky sucky $5

mindoza · 09-22-2004, 10:28 AM

non disclosure -always have people on the outside learning about something on the inside sign a non disclosure...without it yeah it SUCKS and is not very honorable but you have no recourse..Well you do, never use them again and make it known!

Fred Quimby · 09-22-2004, 10:36 AM

ND agreement nexttime

Manowar · 09-22-2004, 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Headless
karma

yep, one day it will come round to fuck them in the ass

Michael O · 09-22-2004, 10:43 AM

I would be really pissed and expose them.

09-21-2004, 09:19 PM	#1
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	Would You Be Pissed If A Design Company... Told one of your competitors about a site of yours they were designing before it was finished and the said competitor then started to get a similar site designed? We're talking a totally UNIQUE niche idea here that you would never think of in a thousand years. Well i dont know if you would be but i certainly fucking am! Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	you have a right to be extremely pissed. if you have proof i'd think of suing. if a concept is that important to you you should have had the designer sign an NDA ........ even without the NDA i still think you have some legal ground to stand on if you can prove a designer handed your idea to a competitor. out the designer, you will be doing a service to everybody! Last edited by Mutt; 09-21-2004 at 09:30 PM..

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czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	post who the designing company is. It may help us avoid them!

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Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,944	What's going to stop anybody to try to copy the niche once it is released? It happens all the time.I think you are going to be wasting your money on a lawyer.Maybe they can't copy the design but it isn't against the law doing the same niche. __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

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clickhappy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,027	People tell each others ideas ALL THE TIME. Its the weirdest thing with this business. Someone at my hosting company has showed me pages by other hosting customers and told me how successful those pages were. Even showed me how to look at their site stats to see how much traffic theyre getting, and who is sending the most. I've had conversations on icq where people just start spilling their guts about their most successful advertisement designs FOR NO REASON. I never asked them or anything. I guess theyre so proud they want everyone to know lol

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xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	Of course sue the fuck out of them and let everybody know who that person or company is. I am a designer myself and I mostly do my own stuff but when I do a project I have it in the contract if I can discuss it or not. I always keep my word on that also. Because it's his or hers intelectual property and I respect that... __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

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