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Old 06-12-2004, 02:21 PM   #1
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Get over it, Reagan sucked

Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism nor was he responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall. Gorbachev was the man behind these two things, Reagan just happened to be in office at the time. Communism was failing long before Reagan came into office.

He started the mess with Saddam Hussein by selling him biological and chemical weapons in the 1980s.

Oh, and 9/11? That was his. Osama bin Laden and his fellow Afghan "freedom fighters" got their funding from Reagan.

Reagan expanded the federal government by close to 90%.

He created the homeless 'underclass' with draconian cuts in social programs and programs for the mentally ill.

He declared war on the environment, accelerating the global warming problem (remember 'trees pollute more than cars???').

He lied about people on welfare, claiming that a woman would collect her welfare checks while driving a Cadillac.

He slashed funding for alternative energy programs, just after the 1970s oil crisis, stopping those programs in their tracks and leading to the peak oil crisis we'll soon be facing.

He cut funding for medical research, including cancer, Alzheimer's, diabetes, and heart disease.

And he exploded the nation's deficit. It took President Clinton years to balance the budget after Reagan's foolhardy spending sprees of the 1980s.

Iran contra scandal.

He created a culture in which 'greed is good', leading to the S&L failures of the 1980s and 1990s.

Reagan actually said homeless people choose to be homeless.

He was an evil bastard and good riddance. I am so sick of the sanitized 'st. ronnie' that's being broadcast by media whores 24/7.
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at least he was man enough to tell people where he was from... unlike you ... pussy.
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Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism nor was he responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall. Gorbachev was the man behind these two things, Reagan just happened to be in office at the time. Communism was failing long before Reagan came into office.

He started the mess with Saddam Hussein by selling him biological and chemical weapons in the 1980s.

Oh, and 9/11? That was his. Osama bin Laden and his fellow Afghan "freedom fighters" got their funding from Reagan.

Reagan expanded the federal government by close to 90%.

He created the homeless 'underclass' with draconian cuts in social programs and programs for the mentally ill.

He declared war on the environment, accelerating the global warming problem (remember 'trees pollute more than cars???').

He lied about people on welfare, claiming that a woman would collect her welfare checks while driving a Cadillac.

He slashed funding for alternative energy programs, just after the 1970s oil crisis, stopping those programs in their tracks and leading to the peak oil crisis we'll soon be facing.

He cut funding for medical research, including cancer, Alzheimer's, diabetes, and heart disease.

And he exploded the nation's deficit. It took President Clinton years to balance the budget after Reagan's foolhardy spending sprees of the 1980s.

Iran contra scandal.

He created a culture in which 'greed is good', leading to the S&L failures of the 1980s and 1990s.

Reagan actually said homeless people choose to be homeless.

He was an evil bastard and good riddance. I am so sick of the sanitized 'st. ronnie' that's being broadcast by media whores 24/7.

Nice list, i still like Reagan, now start with bush, would probably make a list ten times this one....
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Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism nor was he responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall. Gorbachev was the man behind these two things, Reagan just happened to be in office at the time. Communism was failing long before Reagan came into office.
Agreed
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at least he was man enough to tell people where he was from... unlike you ... pussy.
Damn, havent been called a pussy for 20 years when I was in the 8th grade, which I surmise is your mentality level.

And WTF do you care where I'm from? You want to come visit?
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He was an evil bastard and good riddance. I am so sick of the sanitized 'st. ronnie' that's being broadcast by media whores 24/7.
Amen.
Fuck Ronnie. What about the Iran contra affair, genocide in Nicaragua, and Reagan economics. The list goes on and on.
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Damn, havent been called a pussy for 20 years when I was in the 8th grade, which I surmise is your mentality level.

And WTF do you care where I'm from? You want to come visit?
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Oh, and 9/11? That was his. Osama bin Laden and his fellow Afghan "freedom fighters" got their funding from Reagan.
100% correct! Just take a look at Rambo III which was filmed in Reagan times. This movie fully reflects the overall spirits of the USA for that time. "This movie is dedicated to brave Afghan people blah-blah-blah..." 9/11 was a reciprocal gift from that "brave Afghan people" to the USA. I.e. on 9/11 the States got that they paid for in 80's...
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It was kind of funny how the media was mostly only talking about the good side of his administration and not the darker stuff all week long.

Seems like a lot of folks had temporary amnesia.
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Everyone who gets funding at some point in the past changes course eventually.

9/11 was created and enacted by terrorists. Period.

You think the king of england funded trips to the "new world" expecting the new united states to pop up and kick his ass out of town?

Closed.
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It was kind of funny how the media was mostly only talking about the good side of his administration and not the darker stuff all week long.

Seems like a lot of folks had temporary amnesia.
Just like we say here: "Speak well about the dead, or speak nothing..."
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9/11 was created and enacted by terrorists.
...that were sponsored by CIA. Did you mean this?
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Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism nor was he responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall. Gorbachev was the man behind these two things, Reagan just happened to be in office at the time. Communism was failing long before Reagan came into office.

He started the mess with Saddam Hussein by selling him biological and chemical weapons in the 1980s.

Oh, and 9/11? That was his. Osama bin Laden and his fellow Afghan "freedom fighters" got their funding from Reagan.

Reagan expanded the federal government by close to 90%.

He created the homeless 'underclass' with draconian cuts in social programs and programs for the mentally ill.

He declared war on the environment, accelerating the global warming problem (remember 'trees pollute more than cars???').

He lied about people on welfare, claiming that a woman would collect her welfare checks while driving a Cadillac.

He slashed funding for alternative energy programs, just after the 1970s oil crisis, stopping those programs in their tracks and leading to the peak oil crisis we'll soon be facing.

He cut funding for medical research, including cancer, Alzheimer's, diabetes, and heart disease.

And he exploded the nation's deficit. It took President Clinton years to balance the budget after Reagan's foolhardy spending sprees of the 1980s.

Iran contra scandal.

He created a culture in which 'greed is good', leading to the S&L failures of the 1980s and 1990s.

Reagan actually said homeless people choose to be homeless.

He was an evil bastard and good riddance. I am so sick of the sanitized 'st. ronnie' that's being broadcast by media whores 24/7.

Ok answer me this why is Mr Reagan one of the most popular presidents of the last 75 years....

You are good at throwing out some of the bad things hes done. Spend some time post the good points in his 2-4 year terms.


OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE....
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It was kind of funny how the media was mostly only talking about the good side of his administration and not the darker stuff all week long.

Seems like a lot of folks had temporary amnesia.
Well thats the 'left wing media' for ya.
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When theres proof that the CIA sponsored the terrorists acts of 9/11, post a link and we'll talk.

Contrary to popular belief, most people arent so closed minded to deny facts once there *are* facts. Myths are another thing altogether.

For the record, I think there were tremendous failures leading up to 9/11.

For the record, I dont think that tremendous failures are the same thing as intentional actions.
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Everyone who gets funding at some point in the past changes course eventually.

9/11 was created and enacted by terrorists. Period.

You think the king of england funded trips to the "new world" expecting the new united states to pop up and kick his ass out of town?

Closed.
and where and from who do you think Osama got his training?
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It was kind of funny how the media was mostly only talking about the good side of his administration and not the darker stuff all week long.

Seems like a lot of folks had temporary amnesia.
so eerily similar of gfy


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Ok answer me this why is Mr Reagan one of the most popular presidents of the last 75 years....

You are good at throwing out some of the bad things hes done. Spend some time post the good points in his 2-4 year terms.


OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE....
I'm sure we could go back and find ALL past Prez. did shit that amounted to cluster fucks. Don't care which one pick one and do a little research.
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Ok answer me this why is Mr Reagan one of the most popular presidents of the last 75 years....
Bush also was VERY popular (at least until today)
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Ok answer me this why is Mr Reagan one of the most popular presidents of the last 75 years....

You are good at throwing out some of the bad things hes done. Spend some time post the good points in his 2-4 year terms.


OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE....
Funny they never mention the mess that Carter left behind.

12%+ Inflation
10%+ Unemployment
200+ Hostages being held in Iran
Commies taking over countries in latin america

This is just the short list.

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When theres proof that the CIA sponsored the terrorists acts of 9/11, post a link and we'll talk.
A link to what? To the CIA report that Osama was THEIR AGENT? Is this still a secret for you?
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Yes, Reagan was not perfect, but I liked him.
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My comments were about the inherent risks in backing a certain group, and the inability to forsee what that group might become sometime in the future.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Where was miss cleo when we needed her?
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Funny they never mention the mess that Carter left behind.

12%+ Inflation
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and where and from who do you think Osama got his training?
Even 5yo child knows that Osama was trained by CIA. This is a fucking fact!
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Ok answer me this why is Mr Reagan one of the most popular presidents of the last 75 years....

For the same reason almost half the country still think Bush is a good president. The average person is uninformed and buys into the conservative propaganda marketing machine.
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Liberals need 2 just face facts.

After a one term democratic President, takes a Republican President 2 terms to get the country back on there feet.
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Training someone to fight your enemy at the time isnt the same as saying "Oh. and when you find time, slam some passenger planes into these buildings, k?"

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After a one term democratic President, takes a Republican President 2 terms to get the country back on there feet.

Yeah, see how hard we're working on getting Iraq back on it's feet?
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Funny they never mention the mess that Carter left behind.

12%+ Inflation
10%+ Unemployment
200+ Hostages being held in Iran
Commies taking over countries in latin america

This is just the short list.

True, Carter was an economic failure, but at least he was a humanitarian.

And if they were plastering Carter all over the media for the past week talking about what a God he was I would be saying the same shit.
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For the same reason almost half the country still think Bush is a good president. The average person is uninformed and buys into the conservative propaganda marketing machine.
Sad but true. The biggest part of people is not genius. Especially if we are talking about the continental America (I don't mean NY etc)
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Training someone to fight your enemy at the time isnt the same as saying "Oh. and when you find time, slam some passenger planes into these buildings, k?"

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Not ok. Don't feed a snake because some day it may bite you. Only a stupid fuck will train a terrorist. Even "to fight its enemy".
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Well thats just not fair.. How can I argue that theres no stupid fucks in government? lmao
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Not ok. Don't feed a snake because some day it may bite you. Only a stupid fuck will train a terrorist. Even "to fight its enemy".
Yep, that pretty much says it all.
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Well thats just not fair.. How can I argue that theres no stupid fucks in government? lmao
Are you a government guru?
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he fucking sold drugs to this country to fund the fucking war.... forgot about the iran/contra?
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Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism nor was he responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall.
So who are we to believe, incredibly high ranking Soviet officials and generals who all BLAME Reagan for upping the ante and pushing the Soviet Union over the abyss, and wrecking their economy.......................or you?

Learn some foreign policy before you post. Communism was on its way out, for sure, but it may have hung around for DECADES if Reagan didn't push it over the cliff. By doing so, he may have tripled the debt due to military spending, but he saved trillions of dollars in the long run.
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lol no, just pissed at the mess we have to clean up because of past mistakes. Such is life.
Every president does something at sometime that winds up biting us in the ass.
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So who are we to believe, incredibly high ranking Soviet officials and generals who all BLAME Reagan for upping the ante and pushing the Soviet Union over the abyss, and wrecking their economy.......................or you?
No, the one you have to believe is a brainwashing USA propaganda.
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So who are we to believe, incredibly high ranking Soviet officials and generals who all BLAME Reagan for upping the ante and pushing the Soviet Union over the abyss, and wrecking their economy.......................or you?
BTW, what exactly Reagan did to destroy USSR and to "wreck their economy". Just wonder...

P.S. There are lots of genius professors who can jabber but always keep silence when being asked for some facts.
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he fucking sold drugs to this country to fund the fucking war.... forgot about the iran/contra?
The govt. was running one of the largest drug operations around during those days.

But no one wants to hear about that do they.
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Old 06-12-2004, 03:40 PM   #44
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No, the one you have to believe is a brainwashing USA propaganda.
This is from the MOUTHS OF SOVIET OFFICIALS AND GENERALS, not cnn or foxnews! Even Gorbachev echoes this. I guess they are brainwashed too? They have nothing to gain by admitting this.

You're a fool.
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He created a culture in which 'greed is good', leading to the S&L failures of the 1980s and 1990s.
Which was played out by one of the Bush brothers.
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Funny they never mention the mess that Carter left behind.

12%+ Inflation
10%+ Unemployment
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Commies taking over countries in latin america

This is just the short list.


Yes but carter also worked hard to get those people free which he did.
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Old 06-12-2004, 03:46 PM   #47
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This is from the MOUTHS OF SOVIET OFFICIALS AND GENERALS, not cnn or foxnews! Even Gorbachev echoes this. I guess they are brainwashed too? They have nothing to gain by admitting this.

You're a fool.
No, you just one of those brainwashed millions. BTW what is your education level. Some kind of high school + US TV I gues?

P.S. The Soviet people was brainwashed very hard. I'd say as hard as the US people are getting brainwashed now. That's also a fact.
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No, you just one of those brainwashed millions. BTW what is your education level. Some kind of high school + US TV I gues?

P.S. The Soviet people was brainwashed very hard. I'd say as hard as the US people are getting brainwashed now. That's also a fact.
nothing like arguing with someone fanatical like Michael Moore or Rush Limbaugh.........your ideology blinds you to facts.

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nothing like arguing with someone fanatical like Michael Moore or Rush Limbaugh.........your ideology blinds you to facts.

Did you show me at least one fact? Professor?
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nothing like arguing with someone fanatical like Michael Moore or Rush Limbaugh.........your ideology blinds you to facts.

One more time (especially for the professors ):

What exactly Reagan did to destroy USSR and to "wreck their economy". Just wonder...

P.S. There are lots of genius professors who can jabber but always keep silence when being asked for some facts.
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