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mediaguys · 02-18-2001, 06:25 PM

From a marketing perspective, is a dialer more like a pay per sign up, in that the surfer uses it once and you generate one payment from it? Or is it more like a recurring membership in that the surfer will use it month after month and the idea is to build an ever larger base of recurring payers?

Exxxotica · 02-18-2001, 11:20 PM

I guess it depends on what his wife does when she sees the phone bill.

MrCockTale · 02-18-2001, 11:58 PM

mediaguy, it's different for EVERY site..
nobody can tell you which sponsor works
best on a site, you just have to test it out.

Don't forget to test it out for 1 week
(not like 1 hour or 1 day)

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Fucker · 02-19-2001, 12:43 AM

media,
i use the dialer on only one tgp where i get listed high and do about 750+ min/day.

that same listing with a link to ARS was making me 2 signups/day.

you be the judge!

DIALERS KICK ASS OVER any PAY PER CLICK OR PAY PER SIGNUP!

Just from changing my link from ALLPETITE.COM (ARS's SITe) to my dialer i went from 70 bucks/day to 250.00/+ day

wolfshade · 02-19-2001, 02:05 AM

Fucker just a quick question:

On that TGP how do you promote the dialer?

I mean do you put up link straight from the gallery or do you use a java alert box on the page you link that gallery too etc...

In other words what's the best way to promote a dialer with TGP's?

Wolfshade

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SNOW · 02-19-2001, 02:43 AM

Alot has to do with the way you promote it,But also has to dow with hold times and content... If thats not good forget it... I see that quality of traffic makes a big diff as well...
Guys with nice traffic always make more minutes... I have guys that do 5k of good traffic compared to a 100k cj site and the 5k does twice as much..........

SNOW
[email protected]

haboles · 02-19-2001, 05:10 AM

yeah Fucker... i have the same question as wolfshade....

haboles · 02-19-2001, 05:15 AM

ok , i think i got it

wolfshade · 02-19-2001, 05:47 AM

Well do tell!

Wolfshade

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Tam · 02-19-2001, 08:54 AM

I totally agree with snow on every aspect of what he says here. I just have a couple of things to add to this.

Let me first apologize to you mediaguy, I seen this thread last night but I had so many windows open and was doing some other things so I didn't get to get back with you.

Ok, first off, as I said, Snow was right in that quality means ALOT!!

Also though, the way you promote a dialer has alot to do with it too. Take my sites for example, I posted pics and banners and images, whatever on there and it worked like shit. I never got one download.. and then I did it with some very erotic text ads, it improved a bit. I then tried "just download the fucking viewer already" and that did a bit better.

HOWEVER, these things don't work on every site. You have to play with it and see what works best for you. I could go and hunt up the biggest dialer webmasters in the industry and have them come here and each would give you a different stragedy of what works for them. It's all a matter of your traffic, your sites and so on.

I have two guys for example that make a ton of minutes a day. one does it with blindlinks on his links list and does well, so I mentioned this to the other guy, he tried it and his minutes dropped....... same area in line of traffic numbers. THAT guy then tried images and started killing on minutes.

So in short, it takes a bit with a dialer to see what is going to work best for you. BUT and I can't stress enough, don't throw it up and say that it isn't working. try different things and different methods. And as someone said, give it at least a week. some give it 2 weeks. but don't think it's going to work in a matter of minutes, it doesn't usually work that fast.

Thanks and so sorry to babble.

Tam

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May the Force Be With YOU!!

Red7 · 02-19-2001, 12:17 PM

Fucker do you have a deal with that big tgp that lists your dialer. as i see they let you use fake video images as dialer links.

Just wondering?

A. Also What dialer pays Most.
B. WHAT DIALER PAYS EVERY 2 WEEKS!
C. What dialer has the longest hold times!

As I am looking for A new Dialer.

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Have you lost your ass? i can help you find it!

Fucker · 02-19-2001, 02:26 PM

I link directly to the exe file. I have found this to be the best way. I buy my ad spots on the bigger tgp's. No use in competiting for #1 links!

http://www.vipdialer.com

BEST DIALER IVE USED! 14 MIN HOLDS
US HOLDS TODAY ARE OVER 18 MINUTES!

[This message has been edited by Fucker (edited 02-19-2001).]

SNOW · 02-20-2001, 04:15 AM

Yes tam its true.... And like Tam says DONT try the dialer for 1 day get all pissed and take it down... I have been doing dialers almost a year now ,and the biggest problem i see is NOT BEING PATIENT.. Give the thing 2 weeks before you hop aropund like a jumping bean.There is such thing as recurring minutes... You havre to let it build.....

Anyways see ya

Snow
vipdialer

02-18-2001, 06:25 PM	#1
mediaguys Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 38	Dialer Strategy From a marketing perspective, is a dialer more like a pay per sign up, in that the surfer uses it once and you generate one payment from it? Or is it more like a recurring membership in that the surfer will use it month after month and the idea is to build an ever larger base of recurring payers?

02-18-2001, 11:20 PM	#2
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	I guess it depends on what his wife does when she sees the phone bill.

02-18-2001, 11:58 PM	#3
MrCockTale Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 669	mediaguy, it's different for EVERY site.. nobody can tell you which sponsor works best on a site, you just have to test it out. Don't forget to test it out for 1 week (not like 1 hour or 1 day) ------------------ Life's a bitch

02-19-2001, 12:43 AM	#4
Fucker Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 298	media, i use the dialer on only one tgp where i get listed high and do about 750+ min/day. that same listing with a link to ARS was making me 2 signups/day. you be the judge! DIALERS KICK ASS OVER any PAY PER CLICK OR PAY PER SIGNUP! Just from changing my link from ALLPETITE.COM (ARS's SITe) to my dialer i went from 70 bucks/day to 250.00/+ day

02-19-2001, 02:05 AM	#5
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	Fucker just a quick question: On that TGP how do you promote the dialer? I mean do you put up link straight from the gallery or do you use a java alert box on the page you link that gallery too etc... In other words what's the best way to promote a dialer with TGP's? Wolfshade ------------------ It's not the drugs that drive you crazy. It's looking for drugs that drives you crazy!

02-19-2001, 02:43 AM	#6
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	Alot has to do with the way you promote it,But also has to dow with hold times and content... If thats not good forget it... I see that quality of traffic makes a big diff as well... Guys with nice traffic always make more minutes... I have guys that do 5k of good traffic compared to a 100k cj site and the 5k does twice as much.......... SNOW [email protected]

02-19-2001, 05:10 AM	#7
haboles Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: israel Posts: 104	yeah Fucker... i have the same question as wolfshade....

02-19-2001, 05:15 AM	#8
haboles Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: israel Posts: 104	ok , i think i got it

02-19-2001, 05:47 AM	#9
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	Well do tell! Wolfshade ------------------ It's not the drugs that drive you crazy. It's looking for drugs that drives you crazy!

02-19-2001, 08:54 AM	#10
Tam Rude Bitch Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,507	I totally agree with snow on every aspect of what he says here. I just have a couple of things to add to this. Let me first apologize to you mediaguy, I seen this thread last night but I had so many windows open and was doing some other things so I didn't get to get back with you. Ok, first off, as I said, Snow was right in that quality means ALOT!! Also though, the way you promote a dialer has alot to do with it too. Take my sites for example, I posted pics and banners and images, whatever on there and it worked like shit. I never got one download.. and then I did it with some very erotic text ads, it improved a bit. I then tried "just download the fucking viewer already" and that did a bit better. HOWEVER, these things don't work on every site. You have to play with it and see what works best for you. I could go and hunt up the biggest dialer webmasters in the industry and have them come here and each would give you a different stragedy of what works for them. It's all a matter of your traffic, your sites and so on. I have two guys for example that make a ton of minutes a day. one does it with blindlinks on his links list and does well, so I mentioned this to the other guy, he tried it and his minutes dropped....... same area in line of traffic numbers. THAT guy then tried images and started killing on minutes. So in short, it takes a bit with a dialer to see what is going to work best for you. BUT and I can't stress enough, don't throw it up and say that it isn't working. try different things and different methods. And as someone said, give it at least a week. some give it 2 weeks. but don't think it's going to work in a matter of minutes, it doesn't usually work that fast. Thanks and so sorry to babble. Tam ------------------ WebmasterCommerce!! / May the Force Be With YOU!!

02-19-2001, 12:17 PM	#11
Red7 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: www.sexgrfx.com Posts: 221	Fucker do you have a deal with that big tgp that lists your dialer. as i see they let you use fake video images as dialer links. Just wondering? A. Also What dialer pays Most. B. WHAT DIALER PAYS EVERY 2 WEEKS! C. What dialer has the longest hold times! As I am looking for A new Dialer. ------------------ Red7 Free Shit For The AdultWebmaster Have you lost your ass? i can help you find it!

02-19-2001, 02:26 PM	#12
Fucker Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 298	I link directly to the exe file. I have found this to be the best way. I buy my ad spots on the bigger tgp's. No use in competiting for #1 links! http://www.vipdialer.com BEST DIALER IVE USED! 14 MIN HOLDS US HOLDS TODAY ARE OVER 18 MINUTES! [This message has been edited by Fucker (edited 02-19-2001).]

02-20-2001, 04:15 AM	#13
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	Yes tam its true.... And like Tam says DONT try the dialer for 1 day get all pissed and take it down... I have been doing dialers almost a year now ,and the biggest problem i see is NOT BEING PATIENT.. Give the thing 2 weeks before you hop aropund like a jumping bean.There is such thing as recurring minutes... You havre to let it build..... Anyways see ya Snow vipdialer