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theking · 06-11-2004, 07:55 AM

...are prisoners of war...or many of the detainees in Iraq are prisoners of war...read what the Geneva convention has to say about what qualifies one to be considered a prisoner of war.

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Art 4. A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:
(1) Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict, as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.

(2) Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions:[
(a) that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
(b) that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
(c) that of carrying arms openly;
(d) that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.

The insurgents in Afganistan and in Iraq...do not meet the criteria for being considered POW's.

mhende6600 · 06-11-2004, 07:57 AM

They need to update it to fit the times we are in.

theking · 06-11-2004, 08:05 AM

This is what the Army Field Manual has to say about POW's.

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60. General Division of Enemy Population
The enemy population is divided in war into two general classes:

a. Persons entitled to treatment as prisoners of war upon capture, as defined in Article 4, GPW (par. 61).

b. The civilian population (exclusive of those civilian persons listed in GPW, art. 4), who benefit to varying degrees from the provisions of GC (see chs. 5 and 6 herein).

Persons in each of the foregoing categories have distinct rights, duties, and disabilities. Persons who are not members of the armed forces, as defined in Article 4, GPW, who bear arms or engage in other conduct hostile to the enemy thereby deprive themselves of many of the privileges attaching to the members of the civilian population.

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80. Individuals Not of Armed Forces Who Engage in Hostilities
Persons, such as guerrillas and partisans, who take up arms and commit hostile acts without having complied with the conditions prescribed by the laws of war for recognition as belligerents (see GPW, art. 4; par. 61 herein), are, when captured by the injured party, not entitled to be treated as prisoners of war and may be tried and sentenced to execution or imprisonment.

Roger · 06-11-2004, 08:06 AM

Another one of those torture apologists.

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B. The following shall likewise be treated as prisoners of war under the present Convention:

1. Persons belonging, or having belonged, to the armed forces of the occupied country, if the occupying Power considers it necessary by reason of such allegiance to intern them, even though it has originally liberated them while hostilities were going on outside the territory it occupies, in particular where such persons have made an unsuccessful attempt to rejoin the armed forces to which they belong and which are engaged in combat, or where they fail to comply with a summons made to them with a view to internment

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Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a belligerent act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy, belong to any of the categories enumerated in Article 4, such persons shall enjoy the protection of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined by a competent tribunal.

And let me quote an article from the Miami Herald

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What is most disturbing, however, is not the memo's legal missteps but the fact that lawyers from the Department of Justice, as well as the Department of Defense, have signed off on memos that represent ''how to'' guides to circumventing U.S. laws and the Constitution. And the laws that these memos dodge are not the technical details of the internal revenue code but the ban on the use of torture by U.S. government and military officials.

This administration apparently believes that our physical security is more important than our Constitution and 200 years of respect for liberty and divided government. But the 6,000 graves at Omaha Beach are a tangible reminder that our values may be more important than our physical safety.

crockett · 06-11-2004, 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by mhende6600
They need to update it to fit the times we are in.

why so guys that hide behind women and children get the same rights as soldiers? I don't really agree with the whole torture thing, but it is true that most of these prisoners do not fall under the agreements of the Geneva convention.

Sure it would have been in good taste and IMO the right thing to do. But in reality these prisoners do not automatically get the rights granted by the Geneva convention.

Roger · 06-11-2004, 08:13 AM

Geneva convention or not. Torture is still not allowed. Of course if you're a wannabe Saddam, nothing can convince you that torture is wrong.

theking · 06-11-2004, 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by Roger
Geneva convention or not. Torture is still not allowed.

"Torture" is not allowed...but what constitutes "torture" is subjective...and debatable...morally as well as legally. Of course imprisonment and execution is allowed under the Geneva Convention for those that do not qualify as POW's.

Roger · 06-11-2004, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by theking
"Torture" is not allowed...but what constitutes "torture" is subjective...and debatable...morally as well as legally. Of course imprisonment and execution is allowed under the Geneva Convention for those that do not qualify as POW's.

Rumsfeld already stated that the Geneva Convention applies to all prisoners held in Iraq.

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The UN Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment refers to: "an act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person", for a purpose such as obtaining information or a confession, punishment, intimidation or coercion, "or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind".

It's clear to me. But of course it's not for those who want to circumvent the law.

theking · 06-11-2004, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Roger
Rumsfeld already stated that the Geneva Convention applies to all prisoners held in Iraq.

It's clear to me. But of course it's not for those who want to circumvent the law.

The keywords in your post being..."severe pain or suffering"...are subjective and legally debatable.

Roger · 06-11-2004, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by theking
The keywords in your post being..."severe pain or suffering"...are subjective and legally debatable.

The MP's at Abu Ghraib are going to prison. So there actions constitutes torture according to the US military tribunal.

theking · 06-11-2004, 08:45 AM

Actually it is the word "severe" that is subjective and legally debatable.

theking · 06-11-2004, 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by Roger
The MP's at Abu Ghraib are going to prison. So there actions constitutes torture according to the US military tribunal.

Wrong...they are not going to prison for "torture"...and the word "torture" was not used in any of the article of charges from the UCMJ ...in the single Court Martial...thus far.

V_RocKs · 06-11-2004, 08:54 AM

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(2) Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions:[
(a) that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
(b) that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
(c) that of carrying arms openly;
(d) that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.

From your own quote you dipshit.

When you have something intelligent to say, go right ahead.

And, while you are at it, ask the Air Force pilots just how well they were treated when detained. Ask the American hostage who escaped how well he was treated.

Better yet, ask why we keep prisoners of war instead of just beheading them on national tv or in a GFY thread.

Manowar · 06-11-2004, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by Roger
The MP's at Abu Ghraib are going to prison. So there actions constitutes torture according to the US military tribunal.

they have also banned photography, i wonder why

theking · 06-11-2004, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
From your own quote you dipshit.

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(2) Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions:[
(a) that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
(b) that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
(c) that of carrying arms openly;
(d) that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
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When you have something intelligent to say, go right ahead.

And, while you are at it, ask the Air Force pilots just how well they were treated when detained. Ask the American hostage who escaped how well he was treated.

Better yet, ask why we keep prisoners of war instead of just beheading them on national tv or in a GFY thread.

From your own quote you dipship.

The insurgents in Iraq do not meet the criterion...

A-B-D...thus they do not fulfill all of the criteria to be considered prisoners of war. Thus they can be imprisoned/executed.

When you have something intelligent to say, go right ahead.

Dusen · 06-11-2004, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
And, while you are at it, ask the Air Force pilots just how well they were treated when detained. Ask the American hostage who escaped how well he was treated.

Better yet, ask why we keep prisoners of war instead of just beheading them on national tv or in a GFY thread.

Two wrongs make a right? I agree that as a general rule the "other side" has rarely treated the US POW's with any regard, however we have to realize that we are supposed to be the "good guys" here.

I understand your sentiment, but I feel you're being heavily affected by emotion.

V_RocKs · 06-11-2004, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by theking
From your own quote you dipship.

The insurgents in Iraq do not meet the criterion...

A-B-D...thus they do not fulfill all of the criteria to be considered prisoners of war. Thus they can be imprisoned/executed.

When you have something intelligent to say, go right ahead.

a) They are under the leadershit of the Shitfuck Muslim cleric.
b) Since when do we wait for them to flash a sign before we take the AK-47 in their arms seriously?
d) Shooting at Army soldiers isn't considered conducting yourself with the customs of war? Then what is?

Don't get your panties all in a bind. All I am saying is that the Koran says I have to convert to Islam or I will be killed for not having done so, and that my own book says, BULL FUCKING SHIT I DO! I thank God everyday that Rumsfeld and Bush both have read and understand the Holy Bible and are familar with the Koran enough to know that the devil wrote it.

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by theking
From your own quote you dipship.

The insurgents in Iraq do not meet the criterion...

A-B-D...thus they do not fulfill all of the criteria to be considered prisoners of war. Thus they can be imprisoned/executed.

When you have something intelligent to say, go right ahead.

you stupid fucking FUCK!!

most of the detainees were fucking civilians and had fucking nothing to do with fucking war you fucking speedbump idiot. We can torture them because they're civilians and not soldiers?

FUCK YOU!!! get OUT of my country, you don't belong here.

fuck off and die, you're one of the biggest morons I've ever run into on any board.

M_M · 06-11-2004, 10:20 AM

I wonder how the public would respond, if people responsible get away with this, with the excuses such as:

"They are not POW's"

"What's done was not torture"

so weak

Dusen · 06-11-2004, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
Don't get your panties all in a bind. All I am saying is that the Koran says I have to convert to Islam or I will be killed for not having done so, and that my own book says, BULL FUCKING SHIT I DO! I thank God everyday that Rumsfeld and Bush both have read and understand the Holy Bible and are familar with the Koran enough to know that the devil wrote it.

I don't know if this is post to bait people or not. But I'd like to reply, so if it was - you were successful.

I would like to be upfront and state that I am essentially athiest. I do not follow any organized religion, nor believe that one is "better" than the other.

That having been said, I do enjoy learning about religion of all sorts, I have read the bible, and studied a lot about muslim history.

The Koran does not say kill all those that are not muslim. People (extremists) simply interpret it that way. I'm not sure where you heard this, but it is incorrect. Remember, that some extremists feel that the Bible also says to kill those who don't believe.

The Koran is actually your "Holy Bible" with some parts changed. Both books stem from the same source. If it is "written by the devil", then christians are also following a book spawned from satan.

We live in such a society of hatred, it's disgusting. The more that time passes, the more North America approaches a level of intolerance similar to the "enemies" we are trying to stop.

BigFish · 06-11-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by dig420
you stupid fucking FUCK!!

most of the detainees were fucking civilians and had fucking nothing to do with fucking war you fucking speedbump idiot. We can torture them because they're civilians and not soldiers?

FUCK YOU!!! get OUT of my country, you don't belong here.

fuck off and die, you're one of the biggest morons I've ever run into on any board.

When they're shooting and planting roadside bombs to kill coalition troops they call themselves Jihadists and Warriors against the West, but when they're captured or killed, they declare themselves innocent civilians just trying to bring bread home for their family. Why does this excuse consistently work over and over and over???!!

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 10:55 AM

and when they're 12 yr old boys getting raped up the ass by our soldiers at Gitmo what do they call themselves?

if not for the fact that you get most of your news from country music songs, you'd know that we were just pulling people off the street, most of them were NOT soldiers, didn't plant roadside bombs, just wanted to feed their families and be left alone.

theking · 06-11-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by dig420
you stupid fucking FUCK!!

You really are quiet emotional...aren't you Danny boy.

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most of the detainees were fucking civilians and had fucking nothing to do with fucking war you fucking speedbump idiot.

News flash...all of the detainees are "fucking civilians". The government and military were defeated in three weeks.

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We can torture them because they're civilians and not soldiers?

Of course not..."torture" is illegal...but what constitutes "torture" is subjective...and legally debatable.

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FUCK YOU!!! get OUT of my country, you don't belong here.

This from a fanatical ultra liberal...dopehead...that has sacrificed nothing for his country. Oops...I momentarily forgot...you almost served in the Military. It is my country Danny boy...and I paid a heavy price for serving my country...but I do not regret having served.

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fuck off and die, you're one of the biggest morons I've ever run into on any board.

It is on my agenda Danny boy.

V_RocKs · 06-11-2004, 11:22 AM

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevaja...errorist1.html

BigFish · 06-11-2004, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by dig420
and when they're 12 yr old boys getting raped up the ass by our soldiers at Gitmo what do they call themselves?

if not for the fact that you get most of your news from country music songs, you'd know that we were just pulling people off the street, most of them were NOT soldiers, didn't plant roadside bombs, just wanted to feed their families and be left alone.

Says who? LOL Your news sources are as good as mine dumbass. What makes you think that your news source is credible, and mine is not?? Chances and common sense lead me to believe that the MAJORITY of them were insurgents and not civilians. So your common sense leads you to believe that the U.S. Military's main objective is to pull civilians off the street and leave the insurgents to do their "thing"??

HAH! Moron.

PenisFace · 06-11-2004, 11:40 AM

What's up with all these idiots trying to justify emotionally and physically torturing detainee's?

Next time I'm in the US, I'll be sure to kidnap some americans, strip them down, and get them to make nude pyramids. I'm sure they'd appreciate that, seeing as they don't think its such a bad thing when "stupid ragheads" have to do it.

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 11:51 AM

These cocksuckers aren't Americans, nobody who condones torture can be called an American.

Pathfinder, you ignorant shit, all you ever did was get run over by your own platoon, you didn't sacrifice shit except accidentally. Why is it always you bitches that can't fight that want to torture people and start wars?

genomega · 06-11-2004, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
and when they're 12 yr old boys getting raped up the ass by our soldiers at Gitmo what do they call themselves?

if not for the fact that you get most of your news from country music songs, you'd know that we were just pulling people off the street, most of them were NOT soldiers, didn't plant roadside bombs, just wanted to feed their families and be left alone.

Do you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself?
No one believes that left wing radical crap anymore.

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by BigFish
Says who? LOL Your news sources are as good as mine dumbass. What makes you think that your news source is credible, and mine is not?? Chances and common sense lead me to believe that the MAJORITY of them were insurgents and not civilians. So your common sense leads you to believe that the U.S. Military's main objective is to pull civilians off the street and leave the insurgents to do their "thing"?? HAH! Moron.

no YOU'RE the fucking moron because apparently you can't read. Even conservatives have been FORCED to admit that the vast majority of the detainees were civilians who had nothing to do with the insurgency.

Common sense, if you had it, would tell you that CNN, the BBC, NPR etc are better news sources than FOX network. They encourage debate and explore issues in depth with nothing withheld or obscured. If you had common sense, you wouldn't be a conservative in the first place.

Why is it that all conservatives, a party that comes right out in the open and says they don't like intelligent people, are so fond of calling everyone else a moron? Here's a clue for you assmunch: if your party is in favor of teaching creationism in public schools, it's not your opposition that are the morons.

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by genomega
Do you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself?
No one believes that left wing radical crap anymore.

no, I never get tired of flinging shit in the faces of people who want to turn my country into a police state while they jack off thinking about what good patriots they are. You people are diseased. If I had my way I'd send you all to Rwanda.

Fuck you.

theking · 06-11-2004, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
These cocksuckers aren't Americans, nobody who condones torture can be called an American.

Pathfinder, you ignorant shit, all you ever did was get run over by your own platoon, you didn't sacrifice shit except accidentally. Why is it always you bitches that can't fight that want to torture people and start wars?

I do not personally know any American that condones "torture" but I do know many Americans that approve of interrogation procedures that I think you and other ultra liberal fanatics would wrongfully define as being "torture".

PF was never run over...but PF did receive eight or nine purple hearts in his 30 years of service. I was not run over by my anyone in my own PLT. I served and sacrificed for 12 years Danny boy...and was in 3 combat operations. I also participated in Operation Desert Shield prior to particpating in Operation Desert Storm. I was an excellent Soldier Danny boy...thank you very much.

PenisFace · 06-11-2004, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by theking
I do not personally know any American that condones "torture" but I do know many Americans that approve of interrogation procedures that I think you and other ultra liberal fanatics would wrongfully define as being "torture".

PF was never run over...but PF did receive eight or nine purple hearts in his 30 years of service. I was not run over by my anyone in my own PLT. I served and sacrificed for 12 years Danny boy...and was in 3 combat operations. I also participated in Operation Desert Shield prior to particpating in Operation Desert Storm. I was an excellent Soldier Danny boy...thank you very much.

People that brag about being a great soldier tend to be liars.

Most soldiers will say they served with great soldiers.

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by theking
I do not personally know any American that condones "torture" but I do know many Americans that approve of interrogation procedures that I think you and other ultra liberal fanatics would wrongfully define as being "torture".

PF was never run over...but PF did receive eight or nine purple hearts in his 30 years of service. I was not run over by my anyone in my own PLT. I served and sacrificed for 12 years Danny boy...and was in 3 combat operations. I also participated in Operation Desert Shield prior to particpating in Operation Desert Storm. I was an excellent Soldier Danny boy...thank you very much.

you're a fucking liar. You got run over by your own troops, you never did shit.

so assrapings, beatings and lightbulbs up the ass aren't torture? Fuck off. You're not worth my keystrokes.

theking · 06-11-2004, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by PenisFace
People that brag about being a great soldier tend to be liars.

Most soldiers will say they served with great soldiers.

Where did I ever state that I was a great soldier? BTW...are you speaking from experience learned during your career as a soldier?

theking · 06-11-2004, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
you're a fucking liar. You got run over by your own troops, you never did shit.

so assrapings, beatings and lightbulbs up the ass aren't torture? Fuck off. You're not worth my keystrokes.

Ahh...quit it Danny boy...go smoke some more pot...kid.

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by theking
Ahh...quit it Danny boy...go smoke some more pot...kid.

stupid fuck. redneck. momma's boy.

So funny to hear a drunk with a back brace living with his momma telling me to go smoke some more pot.

If I shove a light bulb up your ass and punch you unconscious and assfuck your teenage kid, is that torture?

BigFish · 06-11-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
no YOU'RE the fucking moron because apparently you can't read. Even conservatives have been FORCED to admit that the vast majority of the detainees were civilians who had nothing to do with the insurgency.

Common sense, if you had it, would tell you that CNN, the BBC, NPR etc are better news sources than FOX network. They encourage debate and explore issues in depth with nothing withheld or obscured. If you had common sense, you wouldn't be a conservative in the first place.

Why is it that all conservatives, a party that comes right out in the open and says they don't like intelligent people, are so fond of calling everyone else a moron? Here's a clue for you assmunch: if your party is in favor of teaching creationism in public schools, it's not your opposition that are the morons.

First, where did you come to the conclusion that I watch FoxNews? Are you just speculating or is it your nature to just make wild comments like that? I do not watch FOXNEWS. I don't even have CABLE lol. From this alone, we can conclude that you're nothing more than a drama queen trying to twist and interpret facts so you can feel better about yourself. Second, so are you saying that there are conservatives fighting the war in IRAQ right now as we speak? Are those conservatives in the streets of IRAQ right now fighting with the insurgents??? I think not. So don't sit there and MAKE UP senseless comments just so you can look "right" on GFY.

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by BigFish
First, where did you come to the conclusion that I watch FoxNews? Are you just speculating or is it your nature to just make wild comments like that? I do not watch FOXNEWS. I don't even have CABLE lol. From this alone, we can conclude that you're nothing more than a drama queen trying to twist and interpret facts so you can feel better about yourself. Second, so are you saying that there are conservatives fighting the war in IRAQ right now as we speak? Are those conservatives in the streets of IRAQ right now fighting with the insurgents??? I think not. So don't sit there and MAKE UP senseless comments just so you can look "right" on GFY.

you don't read, you don't watch network news, you can't afford cable.

where do you get your information from, little minnow, GFY?

Lifer · 06-11-2004, 12:49 PM

BigFish · 06-11-2004, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
you don't read, you don't watch network news, you can't afford cable.

where do you get your information from, little minnow, GFY?

Hah!! Sorry but I don't waste my life away sitting on GFY and watching CABLE TV all day like you do kid. Don't let me distract you from your daily routine. Go back to posting and flipping channels.

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by BigFish
Hah!! Sorry but I don't waste my life away sitting on GFY and watching CABLE TV all day like you do kid. Don't let me distract you from your daily routine. Go back to posting and flipping channels.

nah why waste time watching the news or reading about current events? Just stick a Bush banner in your sig and let that cokehead do all the worrying for you

Bush voters crack me up.

theking · 06-11-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
stupid fuck. redneck. momma's boy.

Wrong...a badge of honor...and wrong. One out of three is above your average...Danny boy...for being right about anything.

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So funny to hear a drunk with a back brace living with his momma telling me to go smoke some more pot.

Wrong...I seldom get drunk...wrong...I have a customized full body brace (when I choose to wear it)...wrong...both my real mother and the lady I called mother since age 12...have both passed on.

Three out of three wrong...that is much closer to your average Danny boy.

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If I shove a light bulb up your ass and punch you unconscious and assfuck your teenage kid, is that torture?

Well...what would happen to you would definitely qualify...Danny boy.

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 01:00 PM

I'll beat you to death with your own backbrace.

I'll say this to you one more time, just to make sure it makes an impression: If you want to torture people, curtail freedom of speech and give the government more police power without judicial oversight, you are NOT a patriot. You're a fucking idiot and the kind of person that wanna-be dictators the world over rely upon.

Get out of my country, you don't deserve to live here.

Centurion · 06-11-2004, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by theking
Where did I ever state that I was a great soldier? BTW...are you speaking from experience learned during your career as a soldier?

The King posted:

"I also participated in Operation Desert Shield prior to particpating in Operation Desert Storm. I was an excellent Soldier Danny boy...thank you very much."
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Why don't you settle the debate once and for all and scan your discharge papers with the details & post them here? You are so PROUD of your military history, I wouldn't think you'd be afraid to prove you have this glorious past. You've always hidden behind a "nym" and even admit you're not a porn webmaster anymore.

Face it, the people that have been on this board for any measurable amount of time know you lie about almost everything in regards to your past and to who you really are.

theking · 06-11-2004, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
The King posted:

"I also participated in Operation Desert Shield prior to particpating in Operation Desert Storm. I was an excellent Soldier Danny boy...thank you very much."
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Why don't you settle the debate once and for all and scan your discharge papers with the details & post them here?

What debate? I do not recall having ever entered into a debate with anyone on this board...about any subject. I am not here to debate.

Number one...I will not identify myself...for reasons that I have explained and will not explain again.

Number two...about 98% of my belongings are still in storage in the LA area...including all of my military records as well as other records. I may...at some point take them out of storage...or I may not.

Number three I have posted documents in the past and it did not satisfy anyone and they chose to believe that they had been photo chopped. I do not intend to post anymore pics or documents.

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Face it, the people that have been on this board for any measurable amount of time know you lie about almost everything in regards to your past and to who you really are.

Number four...the majority of the people on this board do not know much about anything...let alone if I lie or not...and this definitely includes you. BTW I really do not give a shit what anyone on this board thinks about anything...any subject...including me. Believe what you choose to...I do...and I believe you are an uncomprehending...know nothing...worthless little punk...as are 98% of the members of this board.

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by theking
Number four...the majority of the people on this board do not know much about anything...let alone if I lie or not...and this definitely includes you. BTW I really do not give a shit what anyone on this board thinks about anything...any subject...including me. Believe what you choose to...I do...and I believe you are an uncomprehending...know nothing...worthless little punk...as are 98% of the members of this board.

we don't like you either, why are you here you lying sad sack of shit?

theking · 06-11-2004, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
I'll beat you to death with your own backbrace.

Only in your pot fogged dreams...Danny boy.

I'll say this to you one more time, just to make sure it makes an impression: If you want to torture people, curtail freedom of speech and give the government more police power without judicial oversight, you are NOT a patriot. You're a fucking idiot and the kind of person that wanna-be dictators the world over rely upon.

Get out of my country, you don't deserve to live here. [/B][/QUOTE]

The only impression you make on me...Danny boy...is that you are a pot smoking fanatical ultra liberal...which diminishes your credibility to -1.

PenisFace · 06-11-2004, 01:34 PM

Isn't theking the guy that isnt even a webmaster?

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 01:36 PM

I'm as middle of the road as they come. It's the Bush administration that is fanatical, and you fucks that think torturing people is a cool thing for America to get involved with.

if you don't like anyone here, why are you making threads? you're not loved or respected, everyone thinks you're a creepy old ass lying wierdo. Just go away.

dig420 · 06-11-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by PenisFace
Isn't theking the guy that isnt even a webmaster?

yep, that's him.

06-11-2004, 07:57 AM	#2
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06-11-2004, 08:13 AM	#6
Roger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MetroCity Posts: 3,181	Geneva convention or not. Torture is still not allowed. Of course if you're a wannabe Saddam, nothing can convince you that torture is wrong. Last edited by Roger; 06-11-2004 at 08:15 AM..

06-11-2004, 08:45 AM	#11
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06-11-2004, 12:49 PM	#39
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06-11-2004, 10:20 AM	#19
M_M Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,167	I wonder how the public would respond, if people responsible get away with this, with the excuses such as: "They are not POW's" "What's done was not torture" so weak

06-11-2004, 10:55 AM	#22
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	and when they're 12 yr old boys getting raped up the ass by our soldiers at Gitmo what do they call themselves? if not for the fact that you get most of your news from country music songs, you'd know that we were just pulling people off the street, most of them were NOT soldiers, didn't plant roadside bombs, just wanted to feed their families and be left alone.

06-11-2004, 11:22 AM	#24
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06-11-2004, 11:40 AM	#26
PenisFace Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,774	What's up with all these idiots trying to justify emotionally and physically torturing detainee's? Next time I'm in the US, I'll be sure to kidnap some americans, strip them down, and get them to make nude pyramids. I'm sure they'd appreciate that, seeing as they don't think its such a bad thing when "stupid ragheads" have to do it.

06-11-2004, 11:51 AM	#27
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	These cocksuckers aren't Americans, nobody who condones torture can be called an American. Pathfinder, you ignorant shit, all you ever did was get run over by your own platoon, you didn't sacrifice shit except accidentally. Why is it always you bitches that can't fight that want to torture people and start wars?

06-11-2004, 01:00 PM	#43
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	I'll beat you to death with your own backbrace. I'll say this to you one more time, just to make sure it makes an impression: If you want to torture people, curtail freedom of speech and give the government more police power without judicial oversight, you are NOT a patriot. You're a fucking idiot and the kind of person that wanna-be dictators the world over rely upon. Get out of my country, you don't deserve to live here.

06-11-2004, 01:34 PM	#48
PenisFace Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,774	Isn't theking the guy that isnt even a webmaster?

06-11-2004, 01:36 PM	#49
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	I'm as middle of the road as they come. It's the Bush administration that is fanatical, and you fucks that think torturing people is a cool thing for America to get involved with. if you don't like anyone here, why are you making threads? you're not loved or respected, everyone thinks you're a creepy old ass lying wierdo. Just go away.