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Old 02-16-2001, 01:38 PM   #1
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We just fired on Iraq? Hmmm... What's he trying to prove???

Why must the US defend everything? We can't even quell internal problems, let alone go overseas and quell external ones.....

heh-heh-heh.... oh well. war ia always good for the economy, so they say. too bad people have to risk their lives so that the rest of us can make more money and live a better life -- for a little while.

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Old 02-16-2001, 08:47 PM   #2
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He's trying to prove he's even more stupid than his father and Reagan combined. Unfortunately, he's so stupid he doesn't realize we don't need that proof.

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Old 02-16-2001, 08:54 PM   #3
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because saddahm is an asshole

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Old 02-17-2001, 05:35 AM   #4
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Saddam may be an asshole but he's fuckin' powerfull - even the fuckin' US can't touch him

Anyways with the whole Bush thing I wouldn't be surprised if WWIII broke out - the poor bastard is a total fool..

What wories me more is that along with Bush 50% of the Americans are apparantley total morrons too for choosing him..
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Old 02-17-2001, 10:01 AM   #5
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he's trying to defend his u.s. oil interests by attacking the other suppliers of oil. no surprise there - except that he didn't wait a little longer. that he didn't wait makes it appear he is DESPARATE to pay back his oil backers - NOT a good way to look, gw.
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Old 02-17-2001, 10:12 AM   #6
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I think that Bush is doing the right thing. He wants to get Saddam out of there, which will take some work, but it'll be worth it because if Saddam keeps doing what he's doing, we're gonna wake up one day with a nuke flying over our head. That'd actually be neat to have George Jr. finish the job that his daddy started many years ago.

Saddam doesn't care about anyone, but himself. He has palaces all over the country, but yet his people are poor. Then he's not complying to any of the terms from the UN. Everyone knows that he's up to no good over there, building up weapons to try to make another invasion or worse yet shoot some missles around.

I do agree with blakkfrog about us defending everything. Sure we do have Britian there with us in most cases, but we pretty pull do most of the work. I guess that I'd rather have the US spearheading everything, than some other country, we're the SUPER POWER !! I'd rather have us in control. The thing that I don't like though, is that if someone was fucking with the US, everyone else would probably turn their backs.

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Old 02-17-2001, 10:22 AM   #7
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No ne is going to remove Saddam. Removing him would send that entire region into chaos. The smaller political factions would beat the living snot out of each other as thay grappled for the reigns of power. As much as he SHOULD be taken out, there are tons of reasons why he should NOT be taken out.

Oh, and since when has anyone called GW intelligent, smart or brilliant?!? LOL

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Old 02-17-2001, 10:51 AM   #8
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hell I have an easy solution...

if they want the US to be the police of the world, then lets do it like the police do...

1. Lets just go over there and finish the damn job...

2. If any complaints from other countries saying that it is wrong, bomb thier ass too... That is for supportting the fucks over there...

3. As far as civilian casulties, fuckem'... If they did not support the actions of their leader, they would:
a) get ride of his ass themselves, or
b) they would leave the fucking country...
It is not like they have a fence around the whole damn place...

This coming from a vet...

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Old 02-17-2001, 11:02 AM   #9
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3. As far as civilian casulties, fuckem'... If they did not support the actions of their leader, they would:
a) get ride of his ass themselves, or
b) they would leave the fucking country...
It is not like they have a fence around the whole damn place...

This coming from a vet...

shoulda said 'this is coming from an ignorant vet' don't you think people in that country tried the things u listed? it's not as easy as you think it is.. maybe get a general background on the subject before posting something as stupid as that?
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Old 02-17-2001, 11:20 AM   #10
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shit I was there the first time...

If you would have been, you would agree you puke...

tell you what, serve your time in the service before you say you know what is going on...

and for the people over there trying to get him out of power... well that is just a crock of shit... they celebrated him, and his power... and for that matter the fact that he stood up to the US and United Nations...

so go play in the sand for a while, before you make any judgements on someone else, and what they HAVE experienced first hand...

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Old 02-17-2001, 11:30 AM   #11
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serving time there doesn't really mean you know anything.. I'll follow up with some info for you when i get back from the auto-show- peace.
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Old 02-17-2001, 11:50 AM   #12
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oh please do...

I guess you must be from there since you have all this insight...

go bury your head in the sand...

being there is one thing... but what I did over there is another, but I will not get into that with you...

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Old 02-17-2001, 12:23 PM   #13
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shut the fuck up

or should i say go fuck yourself

which is kind of sad for a 'vet'
considering the fact that the war you fought was over the price of oil, not the situation in kuwait.
I'm proud to be an American but not when it comes to useless wars.

'bury your head in the sand' ROFLMAO you sound like a fucking redneck.

I'm U.S. Born & Raised with a son in the Marines and a grandfather who commanded the USS CARL VINSON out of Bremerton

I speak for them and many others when it comes to ignorance
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Old 02-17-2001, 01:02 PM   #14
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No question Saddam is an asshole, but you have to understand a little history, to understand the situation.

British colonialism originally fucked up Iraq and their meddling started the ball rolling in an extremely screwed up part of the world

Corrupt officials financed by oil profits of the US and British petroleum companies, brought on the overthrow of the "Western friendly" crooked Iraqi leaders

The CIA responded by financing the Kurds in 1972 to the tune of tens of millions of US taxpayers dollars.

Iraq responded by aligning itself with the Soviet Union (how to you think they got all those Russian tanks?)

As a US taxpayer I might be asking how much money, after desert storm, and the ongoing cost... how much did this bullshit really cost me on my paycheck?

As a US citizen I much ask how much in lives and health of your soldiers, did it cost? ...and was it necessary?

It's easy to look back, but likely Saddam would not have aligned himself with the soviet union, if the CIA had not financed the Kurds.

The stupider thing, is that Kurdish rebels are continually attacking Turkey (a NATO aligned country) and continually starting these little middle east "skirmishes" so it is conceivable, in the near future, US armed forces may be called to fight them also.

Won't that be the cat's ass, your tax dollars hard at work?

Of course we must not forget the cash hungry french who will sell weapons to anybody, at the same time all the shit was hitting the fan, the french were selling nuclear reactor technology to oil rich Iraq.

Do you know that french nuclear engineers were still in iraq assisting the ongoing attempts to bring the Osirak nuclear facility online? in 1981, nice eh?

Of course these are the same (french) assholes who were busy helping Argentina arm it's french built Mirage fighters with exocet missiles, during the Falkland war. Now that's what I call after sales service.

How many soldiers died in that war? For a big barren rock with sheep farmers on it?

Anyway the point I am getting at, is things are seldom black and white, good and bad... so you better educate yourself, so that your children don't end up dying somewhere as soldiers in a war that wasn't necessary.

The good guys aren?t always as good as you think they are. ...oh and no doubt that France has sent back engineers and technical experts to get that nuclear reactor in tip top condition, too bad that the first missile can't reach France eh? (I am being sarcastic of course) Saddam would never want to make a nuclear warhead.
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Old 02-17-2001, 01:04 PM   #15
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Saddam has weapons of mass destruction? haha, sure he does. As long as the majority of American people keep believing that Saddam is the devil reincarnated then Bush will have support.
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Old 02-17-2001, 01:23 PM   #16
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does not matter what it was over...

you should know, if you have a son in the USMC and grandfather that was in the service, that you do not have a choice in what war or conflicts you fight...

My whole deal with this was the fact that everyone looks to the US to keep the peace around the world... And if that is the case, just do it, and get it over with...

Quit prolonging the thing and just finish the job... That is all...

But I guess people can only get out of what is said, by the way they look at it or take it...

Cause in my opinion, we should just let them kill themselves off, IF that is what they want to do...

And as far as rednack... do not group me with people who do not even give a fuck about themselves... I did not like being there, but it WAS my job... And I have no regerts for what I did over there, or what took place...

Once again, they want the US to get involved... Then get involved and do it right the first time....

I also agree with most of the insight about this subject... It has always been about political struggle... And that will never change...

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Old 02-17-2001, 01:27 PM   #17
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does anyone rmember a little shit named Mohammer Khadafi?

The US can kill anyone they want to, but who will take over if they do. I saw a picture in TIME magazine years ago, where the US GOVT had determined where Khadafi was and bombed the shit outta his compound, well not actually, they bombed a 1 block radius around the compound and left his little area intact right down to the chain link fence ecasing it.

My favorite espionage story is about the arms dealer who was trying to sell the big gun to IRAQ. There was this guy from Mc Gill university, who built a gun that would theoretically shoot the moon. While in Paris I think it was, arranging transport of the tubing for it (disguised as oilfield equipment) a key player was eliminated by the isreali secret service, and they were not shy about taking credit for the kill either.

The moral of the story is keep your riends close, and you enemies closer.

I do not think a lot of George Dubya Bush, but if these little freaks are not kept in line by a power like the United States, this whole fucking continent we all love could be put into serious jeoprady. The big gun could have easily shot a big fuckin bullet right into the United States doing some serious damage, and really hurting the feeling of security we North Americans have. It's nice not to worry about car and airport bombings, and live a fairly relaxed life worrying about bills and how to buy the newest toys we all want.

As for Bombing Iraq this time, FLEX THAT MUSCLE, and let him know he could be dead at any time. Saddams predecessor could be worse than he is. I like picturing him in bed with Lucifer and a couple dildos. (thanxs South Park)

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Old 02-17-2001, 03:03 PM   #18
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I think it's fucked up, I mean what the fuck, let the people rebuild their country, lift the sanctions and let them regain their economic and social structure. They used to be a good country to live in, now Iraq is a beggar who can't even hold a baseball cap cause the US bats it away. Just my thoughts

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Old 02-17-2001, 10:19 PM   #19
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Old 02-17-2001, 10:38 PM   #20
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Too bad El Salvador had to go and get all democratic-like. If they still had a despot that we funded and trained in charge down there, they might get some of our quality American aide.



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Old 02-18-2001, 04:30 AM   #21
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Hey ! Dont pick on Saddam ! He's cool !

Anyway, why the fuck wouldn't US mind its own damn business ? They better be watching where their submarines pop-up instead of playing the Guardian shit.



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