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06-03-2004, 01:27 PM
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Why wont most sites trade with a toplist?
Why wont people do that?
The toplist I started just 2 days ago have about 1K a day in traffic and the prod on the clicks out from it are fucking nice! Why wont tgp owners wanna trade with it? Whats the problem? Please tell me.  I mean I offer non blind traffic back...each click is a surfer clicking because they are intressted and not because they got tricked to.
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06-03-2004, 01:29 PM
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what's the url of your toplist...?
just curious :D
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06-03-2004, 01:32 PM
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06-03-2004, 01:36 PM
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06-03-2004, 01:37 PM
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If I had cumshots on my site, I'd sign up.
But alas, I do not. Sorry babes.
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06-03-2004, 01:38 PM
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Too many toplists catch surfers in a circle jerk. The reputation of toplists was set a long time ago. There's some good ones out there and i'm sure yours is one of them, but it's hard to overcome the bad rep in the minds of webmasters.
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06-03-2004, 01:38 PM
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And yes I will keep cheaters of the list. But most tgps redject to trade with toplists.... I dont see why realy.
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06-03-2004, 01:40 PM
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And I presonally dont understand why catch the surfer in a CJ from a toplist but never mind  I will never have a popup in my toplist or fuck with the surfer..I will however have banner spots later on but I wanna make sure the SE hits kick in first and also that I have stable trades. I plan and hope to get this up at maby 5K a day. But I need to find some bigger sites who can trade with me first.
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06-03-2004, 01:42 PM
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Dunno, I don't have a problem with TopLists, of course I'm sending traffic only to a few hand-picked, but I'm more than happy with the results.
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06-03-2004, 01:57 PM
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Good conversion out from them...need to feed them a little more with 404 traffic or something like that but I think I can get it going pretty sweet.
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06-03-2004, 02:02 PM
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I still "trade" with a few toplists. But out of all the ones I've tried over time, very very few have actually been worth it as far as hits sent and received. The vast majority seem to be filled with CJ sites or other top lists "trading" with each other. So at the end of the day it's too much effort for a WM to filter out the crap ones and figure out which ones are "real". Much easier to just not even bother.
Toplists could probably do better with a change to their model. I was going to post a link to a toplist that's done very well with a lot of major sites except I can't seem to find it (having technical problems). The interesting thing about that toplist is that it really doesn't look like a toplist. |
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06-03-2004, 02:11 PM
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Well I will stay within the cumshot field with my toplist...and I wont allow CJ sites.
I have the same feeling as with my tgps...dont fuck the surfer and the surfer wont fuck you And with the feeder traffic im adding soon I think this might be a nice little way to get some extra hits to a tgp or a paysite or something like that.
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06-03-2004, 03:11 PM
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I added my site before I read the cumshot requirement. I DO have cumshots on my TGP but it is a general niched TGP with a little of everything. Add me and I will send hits... don't and I won't... let me know 212090289
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06-03-2004, 03:19 PM
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Nice looking toplist. If I had that niche's content I would signup.
Toplist did get a bad rep years ago, but if you keep the cheaters and bs links off - then it is a good traffic trading tool. We run a few toplist and they do well for all who trade with us. |
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06-03-2004, 03:54 PM
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I don't have any facial sites but I have a site I'm testing Remote Thumbs on.. It would be easy enough to set up a facial section on it. I'll give it a try and sign up on it when it's done.
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06-03-2004, 09:06 PM
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06-04-2004, 01:28 AM
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06-04-2004, 01:33 AM
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maybe because you dont have any real links there...
many tgps that send traffic dont want to send it to a page with 0% gallerys...
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06-04-2004, 01:37 AM
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But if you can send hits to a page that will give you even better return prod is that not a good thing? And as for real links...most tgps skim so hard to trades so what the spoint...you can send hits to another site by tricking the surfer trough blindlinks but you cant send them to a toplist who dont trick the surfer but only show them what they will get?
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06-04-2004, 01:38 AM
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I'd trade with you, http://www.Hoodrat.net (PR 5), but I'm not strictly cumshots. Would you still want to trade? If so, hit me up on ICQ!
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06-04-2004, 01:45 AM
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I prefeer clean sites for this as I am keeping the site itself clean.
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06-04-2004, 01:54 AM
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show me a toplist that can return 1k/day with good prod
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06-04-2004, 01:56 AM
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It does well with my site ;)
Clean and has great return traffic. |
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06-04-2004, 02:24 AM
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06-04-2004, 02:58 AM
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nothing is impossible
but I haven't seen a toplist with big traffic on it since about 1998-99 |
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06-04-2004, 03:12 AM
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Sensei...you and i have similar views on traffic and tgp's lately.....hit me up and i will swap some good links with you....i can even throw some hard links to you on some of my PR4 sites....
263 989 083 my top site is already making more than any same size tgp i will venture to bet! |
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06-04-2004, 03:39 AM
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I love toplists. I would trade with you if I had cumshot traffic.
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06-04-2004, 04:11 AM
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Depends who you are trying to trade with. Some places won't trade with toplists since they are basically blind links.
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06-04-2004, 07:29 AM
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I can not see this. How can this be worth then skim surfers of a gallerylink.
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06-04-2004, 07:31 AM
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06-04-2004, 09:10 AM
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Well I must say the "cheating" talk of toplist is pretty lame.
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06-04-2004, 12:01 PM
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Toplist is work very nice! We have so many - check http://www.traffic-system.com
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Notice how it doesn't actually look llike a toplist? Brilliant. |
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06-04-2004, 12:26 PM
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06-04-2004, 12:32 PM
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Just a word to the wise. Fuck no gateway toplists. If you want good traffic send it to one with a gateway. You may think this sounds stupid but the quality is much better and they return super productive hits.
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06-04-2004, 01:23 PM
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Well I still dont think its fair just because some people cheat and throw popups to call all toplist cheaters....
I wont add any popups and I trade with clean sites who dont fuck with the surfer... So why would my toplist be different that any other site? Since most tgps today are more worried about their trades then the content they provide why not trade with a site who have 0 blindlinks and send only clicked traffic from surfers who know what they are gettin So fuck cheaters!! If a toplist is managed right its no worse then a tgp thats managed.
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06-04-2004, 01:43 PM
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"Fair" or not, it's the state of the biz. There's just far too many cheaters and scammers out to make a quick buck that it ruins things for honest WMs. Same thing is happening to TGPs. Everyday I get new sites trying to signup that are just cookie cutter, filled with nothing but FHGs etc. At the end of the day, the sites with the traffic close ranks and only let in webmasters that prove themselves as trustworthy over some time. Don't blame us for the situation, we didn't create it.
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06-04-2004, 01:52 PM
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CumSensei, would you accept traffic from a hardcore TGP? :-)
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06-04-2004, 01:58 PM
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what about a teen tgp? or do you know any good toplists i can submit to i've come across a few but they seem like shitty ones to submit to ?
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06-04-2004, 02:13 PM
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nice site, kick ass design, i like toplist, sometimes direct links to affilates sell better then from galleries.
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06-04-2004, 02:29 PM
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Sending you more traffic now to boost it up.
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06-04-2004, 03:01 PM
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By the way. Just to be clear. If I had a site in the right niche I'd try a trade with your toplist.
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Im closing in on 3K a day soon. I will add some banners when I hit 5K I think to see how the clickout ratio is for sponsors. But sofar all the trades stay alive without most of them even forcing any hits. Sure they are not huge but as long as they stay alive its all good: ) Thanks makingcoin for forcing some btw to boost it a little. Need more trades..wanna fill up the top 30 at least
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Doing great sofar..a few bigger sites been added and they like what they get sofar
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http://www.nude-teen.biz/ "Very Young Girls" "!VIRGINS ARCHIVE! DOWNLOAD NOW!" "VeRY YoUnG GiRLs pHoToS (hARD fuCk 299 pix)" "PURE YOUNG FUCK" "REAL INCEST VIDEOS" " Young Ladies: YOUNG GIRLS BRUTALLY FUCKED" You get the idea... what is this shit? Are there any teen toplists that don't have this sort of stuff on them? |
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06-05-2004, 08:54 AM
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Fuck dude. Your productivity is amazing!
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Looks good to me
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