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Old 06-05-2004, 03:28 PM   #1
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ARS having cash issues. Reward Orders over 1 month delayed!!!

Looks like ARS is having some SERIOUS issues.....they still havent managed to send out or confirm my reward order from May 4th, 2004! They have a backlog of some 500+ rewards to give out now and are getting to the point where they are now giving lower priority to webmasters who've stopped sending traffic but still have points and overdue reward orders!


I'd be really wary if you're still promoting ARS...proceed with caution.

Check out the following, for example, posted on their boards by one of their staff. Still on the 3rd after 10 days!! Does it really take 10 days to send out orders from just one day?

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Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:38:00 -0700
Your order was received in the orde queue on the 19th and I am currently
making orders for the 3rd, this will give you an idea of how backed up
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Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 11:10:48 -0700
It will be a while yet, I am still working on the orders that came in on
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Old 06-05-2004, 03:31 PM   #2
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Looks like ARS is having some SERIOUS issues.....they still havent managed to send out or confirm my reward order from May 4th, 2004! They have a backlog of some 500+ rewards to give out now and are getting to the point where they are now giving lower priority to webmasters who've stopped sending traffic but still have points and overdue reward orders!


I'd be really wary if you're still promoting ARS...proceed with caution.

Check out the following, for example, posted on their boards by one of their staff. Still on the 3rd after 10 days!! Does it really take 10 days to send out orders from just one day?
do you want to do there job ? running the rewards section of a major affilate program is not so easy

give them some break

I say 1 month is acceptable for a free gift

2 months question it

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Watch out what you put in the title. And it's a FREE GIFT to YOU, so be patient.
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Old 06-05-2004, 03:35 PM   #6
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Yeah.. they aren't in the REWARDS business. Thats just a bonus.

As long as your checks are on time....
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Old 06-05-2004, 03:35 PM   #7
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Can you imagine the volume of rewards they have to deal with after however long they had rewards disabled? Come on, get a fucking clue you vulture.
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Old 06-05-2004, 03:38 PM   #8
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maybe they need the cash for sigs
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Old 06-05-2004, 03:38 PM   #9
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for real they're doing it as an incentive to be in the program even if it takes a while who cares its not like you paid for it you know... no bid deal man
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Can you imagine the volume of rewards they have to deal with after however long they had rewards disabled? Come on, get a fucking clue you vulture.
i can't even imagine GFY with there T-shirts, hoody's and panties much less ARS and rewards,
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Old 06-05-2004, 03:44 PM   #11
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Your thread title is very misleading. They are behind on their rewards, not cash. If they weren't paying affiliates, there would have a shit storm.

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Old 06-05-2004, 03:44 PM   #12
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Old 06-05-2004, 03:48 PM   #13
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Your thread title is very misleading. They are behind on their rewards, not cash. If they weren't paying affiliates, there would have a shit storm.

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Old 06-05-2004, 04:20 PM   #14
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Watch out what you put in the title. And it's a FREE GIFT to YOU, so be patient.
free gift? its part of the compensation for sending them joins. so i guess my cheques are gifts too?

thank you marc de for being so genorous to mere mortals like me...
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Old 06-05-2004, 04:24 PM   #15
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as long as the paychecks keep coming on time I wouldnt stress out that your reward is a little late
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i put in an order 2 months ago and last week i decided to check on it cuz it's not here. And the order was cancelled for some reason..no explanation. Have way more rewards points then needed to cover the item. Didnt even bother to go through it again.
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Old 06-05-2004, 04:45 PM   #17
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Old 06-05-2004, 04:50 PM   #19
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Wheres Amber when you need some ARS answers?
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Old 06-05-2004, 04:54 PM   #20
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Didn't they put a hold on the program a couple months back so that they can get structured and reorganized?

And to everyone that says "be happy you're getting free stuff!", don't kid yourself. The rewards program was created as an incentive to send traffic to ARS and not other programs. It isn't just "free stuff", it's part of payment and anyone wondering where their reward items are is perfectly justified.
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Old 06-05-2004, 04:56 PM   #21
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Wheres Amber when you need some ARS answers?
man, why did you have to day THAT name (different amber, but still)

i have faith in ars, btw
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do you want to do there job ? running the rewards section of a major affilate program is not so easy

give them some break

I say 1 month is acceptable for a free gift

2 months question it

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Yeah, sponsors that are solid shut down all their sites and screw over thousands of webmasters

People like you who have no idea what they're talking about should not be allowed to have sigs.
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Old 06-05-2004, 05:38 PM   #26
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do you want to do there job ? running the rewards section of a major affilate program is not so easy

give them some break

I say 1 month is acceptable for a free gift

2 months question it

3 months icq about it

4 months email about it

5 months post on gfy about it if you are that hard up for free shit

sounds like very good advice
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Old 06-05-2004, 05:48 PM   #27
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Didn't they put a hold on the program a couple months back so that they can get structured and reorganized?

And to everyone that says "be happy you're getting free stuff!", don't kid yourself. The rewards program was created as an incentive to send traffic to ARS and not other programs. It isn't just "free stuff", it's part of payment and anyone wondering where their reward items are is perfectly justified.
I agree, I think he has a right to complain, even though the title was a bit misleading. It shouldn't take a month to send out the orders for a single day.
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Old 06-05-2004, 05:50 PM   #28
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Yeah, sponsors that are solid shut down all their sites and screw over thousands of webmasters

People like you who have no idea what they're talking about should not be allowed to have sigs.
they made changes for the better. one step back to take three steps forward.
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do you want to do there job ? running the rewards section of a major affilate program is not so easy

give them some break

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not easy? a fucking monkey could do it.
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Old 06-05-2004, 07:23 PM   #31
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Ars program got droped by a shitload of webmasters ... I guess they just stoped using it and everybody is ordering rewards at the same time ... but they are still rocking
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Old 06-05-2004, 07:30 PM   #32
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WTF?? It's free! Do we know what FREE means? It means they chose to give you a perk, they are not obligated to do it. Checks come, who cares about freebies!!!!!
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You know what this means right ???? People are making alot of $$ with ARS. Rewards are the result of making money. If you too want to make money, see the freakin sig
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Old 06-05-2004, 08:05 PM   #36
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that sucks I'm sure they will get it resolved
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ARS changed their sites in an attempt to "make things better" for themselves. In the process they lowered webmaster payouts and stopped giving credit for traffic being sent to their old sites. Looking at it from a webmaster perspective, these changes were not for the better.

Whats most lame, is they are not even doing anything unique. They are simply copying a business model that has already been done by every other sponsor out there.

This is my interpretation of ARS...
"Lets cash in on reality sites, there are lots of sheep and newbies who will continue to promote us no matter how many times we fuck them over."
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ARS changed their sites in an attempt to "make things better" for themselves. In the process they lowered webmaster payouts and stopped giving credit for traffic being sent to their old sites. "

Very true. Add that to the fact that they didn't even give notice of what they were going to do when they had the opportunity to do so. ARS is a bad choice to send traffic to. They will most likely screw you over eventually.
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WTF?? It's free! Do we know what FREE means? It means they chose to give you a perk, they are not obligated to do it. Checks come, who cares about freebies!!!!!
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ARS changed their sites in an attempt to "make things better" for themselves. In the process they lowered webmaster payouts and stopped giving credit for traffic being sent to their old sites. Looking at it from a webmaster perspective, these changes were not for the better.

Whats most lame, is they are not even doing anything unique. They are simply copying a business model that has already been done by every other sponsor out there.

This is my interpretation of ARS...
"Lets cash in on reality sites, there are lots of sheep and newbies who will continue to promote us no matter how many times we fuck them over."
Do you even know what the fuck happened? The old sites were never ARS sites to begin with, they were simply marketing them for GIM. Once they severed their relationship with GIM they could no longer market those sites and had to produce their own. They didn't fuck over anyone, they gave plenty of notice as to when their contract was up with GIM and affiliates would no longer be able to market them. Funny how you are scolding others for not knowing what they are talking about when you seem completely clueless on the situation.
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Very true. Add that to the fact that they didn't even give notice of what they were going to do when they had the opportunity to do so. ARS is a bad choice to send traffic to. They will most likely screw you over eventually.
Bullshit, they gave over 2 months notice to their webmasters as to when they would no longer be paying on the old GIM sites.
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Looks like ARS is having some SERIOUS issues.....they still havent managed to send out or confirm my reward order from May 4th, 2004! They have a backlog of some 500+ rewards to give out now and are getting to the point where they are now giving lower priority to webmasters who've stopped sending traffic but still have points and overdue reward orders!

They received over 300k in orders after they reopened their new rewards store and are working their way through the orders.
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Do you even know what the fuck happened? The old sites were never ARS sites to begin with, they were simply marketing them for GIM. Once they severed their relationship with GIM they could no longer market those sites and had to produce their own. They didn't fuck over anyone, they gave plenty of notice as to when their contract was up with GIM and affiliates would no longer be able to market them. Funny how you are scolding others for not knowing what they are talking about when you seem completely clueless on the situation.
amen

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Bullshit, they gave over 2 months notice to their webmasters as to when they would no longer be paying on the old GIM sites.
I must have missed the email that said "we are going to feed our new ppc engine with all your existing links and pay you pennies for your traffic"
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Do you even know what the fuck happened? The old sites were never ARS sites to begin with, they were simply marketing them for GIM. Once they severed their relationship with GIM they could no longer market those sites and had to produce their own. They didn't fuck over anyone, they gave plenty of notice as to when their contract was up with GIM and affiliates would no longer be able to market them. Funny how you are scolding others for not knowing what they are talking about when you seem completely clueless on the situation.
Sounds like you have not been around too long if you think that is where the timeline really starts for those sites and their relationship to each other.
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Sounds like you have not been around too long if you think that is where the timeline really starts for those sites and their relationship to each other.
Been with ARS since the beginning and am fully aware of their relationship with GIM, where did I talk about their history timeline in my previous post?
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Do you even know what the fuck happened? The old sites were never ARS sites to begin with, they were simply marketing them for GIM. Once they severed their relationship with GIM they could no longer market those sites and had to produce their own. They didn't fuck over anyone, they gave plenty of notice as to when their contract was up with GIM and affiliates would no longer be able to market them. Funny how you are scolding others for not knowing what they are talking about when you seem completely clueless on the situation.
I dont care if they were marketing sites for GIM or Pope John Paul II. That doesnt change the fact that they made a business decision which screwed over thousands of webmasters. Do you think webmasters that built 100's of AVS sites, 100's of TGP galleries, 100's of free site galleries promoting ARS websites did not feel like they were screwed over once they heard the news that ARS was shutting down all their old sites? I cant believe you have the nerve to say "They didnt fuck over anyone".
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Old 06-05-2004, 09:04 PM   #49
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Old 06-05-2004, 09:16 PM   #50
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I dont care if they were marketing sites for GIM or Pope John Paul II. That doesnt change the fact that they made a business decision which screwed over thousands of webmasters. Do you think webmasters that built 100's of AVS sites, 100's of TGP galleries, 100's of free site galleries promoting ARS websites did not feel like they were screwed over once they heard the news that ARS was shutting down all their old sites? I cant believe you have the nerve to say "They didnt fuck over anyone".
they didn't convert anyways, who cares. the GIM sites were so 2001
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