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Old 09-29-2007, 11:14 AM   #1
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So i'm talking with some surfers

On a forum and adult billing was brought up.

Here's my conclusion:

Many of them will never sign up for an adult site because they think their cc statement will show the url of the adult site.

Im trying to explain about ccbill and stuff but they just don't seem to get it. They think that every site has their own billing and basically will get all their cc info and the site will show up on the statement.

Someone mentioned he had no problems signing up for non adult sites though. I explained that CCbill can also process for non adult sites and it would be exactly the same. I doubt he will understand it.

So here's a free tip:

On your join page add a line which mentions the site URL will NOT show up on their cc statement.

You're welcome for my 10% more members tip
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Old 09-29-2007, 11:41 AM   #2
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people should also be made more aware of the fact that they can go to any safeway grocery store and buy a disposable Visa card with $25 or $50 on it and can enter whatever fake name info on it they want. quick and easy
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Old 09-29-2007, 11:53 AM   #3
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sorry Franck for posting in your thread but this is a business thread after all

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people should also be made more aware of the fact that they can go to any safeway grocery store and buy a disposable Visa card with $25 or $50 on it and can enter whatever fake name info on it they want. quick and easy
can they indeed? does such card act like normal ViSa Credit card which you can use online, not just a prepaid card?

I mean, if someone buys a pre-loaded card for $25 and then joins an adult site with it, then there's no way that he will rebill

sponsor paying $40 on such join will simply lose money, heh
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:12 PM   #4
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sorry Franck for posting in your thread but this is a business thread after all
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:14 PM   #5
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very good tip indeed
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:19 PM   #6
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interesting ... thanks for the tip
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:24 PM   #7
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can they indeed? does such card act like normal ViSa Credit card which you can use online, not just a prepaid card?

I mean, if someone buys a pre-loaded card for $25 and then joins an adult site with it, then there's no way that he will rebill

sponsor paying $40 on such join will simply lose money, heh
yes, works great online, in fact it even says right on the label that it is great for online or any purchases

you can buy them at any safeway (and cheque cashing places sell them too) and they charge like $4 extra when you buy them ie. a $25 preloaded disposable visa card costs you $29 or a $100 disposable visa costs you $105

when you get it you go online to the card's website and enter any name and zip you want to (can be totally fake) as that is the name and zip you will enter when you make a purchase online.... they work awesome

spouses never have to worry about who sees a statement, completely anonymous, you can grab one when you are buying groceries...

these are the ones my local safeway sells and I have bought about 10 of them and paid for hosting and bought stuff etc and they work just like my regular visa: https://www.allaccessgift.com/gift/index.m
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:27 PM   #8
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I was looking into this pre-paid Visa stuff the other day..I think the company is called Greendot...and they are at Walgreens.

This would be for funding online gambling accounts.

Anyway, at the Walgreens I was at the other day, you paid for it, then had to go online and fill out a form and they would then send you the card..which would require a real name and address.

Also there were possibly some other hidden fees after the activation fee...like a certain % would be charged each month to keep that card activated.
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:34 PM   #9
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Yes I agre explain to them in bold very clearly what the Credit Card Statement will say. Not enough sites say it or make it VERY DAMN CLEAR to the user.

Oh and Please Please Please do not encourage surfers to go buy prepaid cards. Think for one second. Those cards will not rebill. Often the buyer will also get pissed off if they get a hold put on their card, then some site owners specially PPS would get pissed of if some surfer signed up to their 3 day trial site and a few other trial cross sales for a total of say 5.00 and then instead of the 150.00 everyone was expecting they get FUCKED!

So all of you affiliates who do not want to end up shitcanned for what program owners may see as fraud (PPS) or tossed to revshare only, or worse already selling revshare and want to see rebills. DO NOT PROMOTE THIS CARDS AS AN OPTION!

If affiliates start to promote the usage of those you can more than likely kiss your job good by no matter how much traffic you may have. It would be tainted non rebilling and sucky cross selling traffic. Hell it would even be useless on webcam sites. Not to mention minors can and do get those cards.
They are just bad bad bad.
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:37 PM   #10
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I was looking into this pre-paid Visa stuff the other day..I think the company is called Greendot...and they are at Walgreens.

This would be for funding online gambling accounts.

Anyway, at the Walgreens I was at the other day, you paid for it, then had to go online and fill out a form and they would then send you the card..which would require a real name and address.

Also there were possibly some other hidden fees after the activation fee...like a certain % would be charged each month to keep that card activated.
That is because that is a reloadable visa (also available at AAA, yes the auto insurance place). A prepaid throw away visa can be purchased for 20.00 50.00 75.00 100.00 etc up to like 250.00 with no mailing crap in etc. Available at many supermarkets and convience stores.
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:41 PM   #11
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yes I have that on my join page already and figured everyone else would have that by now. It is a known fact and I often get emails to confirm that it will not say PORN on their bill. That was why I added it. I should probably make it flash though but those people would still miss it anyway
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:41 PM   #12
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damn franck is 2 for 2 today .....



good tip dood....
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:41 PM   #13
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damn franck is 2 for 2 today .....



good tip dood....
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yes I have that on my join page already and figured everyone else would have that by now. It is a known fact and I often get emails to confirm that it will not say PORN on their bill. That was why I added it. I should probably make it flash though but those people would still miss it anyway
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Old 09-29-2007, 01:02 PM   #15
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damn franck is 2 for 2 today .....



good tip dood....
Does that mean you wont beat me up anymore?
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Does that mean you wont beat me up anymore?
no just means out of the 20k plus post you have this one may be the the only one that means something
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