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dantheman · 06-03-2004, 06:22 AM

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Originally posted by goreboy
I think this just about sums up this thread......most of the people here don't even know JoeE or worked with him.....i see a few have...he is a decent guy...i have had a deal or 2 go wrong with him in the past...so i did not do biz with him anymore....but i keep biz and persoanl separate.......has anyone in this biz who started after 2000 achieved the success JoeE has?

don't think so......

i love it when TGP owners with a gazillion hits of shitty traffic think they are on top of the internet world.....

Webfather · 06-03-2004, 06:38 AM

I have to agree with about everything posted on this thread. The good, the bad, the ugly.

Hopefully things will work out and Joe will land on his feet and finally calm down. Either way it is a sad event.

dantheman · 06-03-2004, 06:45 AM

good to see you rick: ) hope to see ya in fl this summer

nofx · 06-03-2004, 07:05 AM

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Originally posted by scoreman
Everyone here should step back and remember that right now he is still an INNOCENT MAN. Seriously, wtf happened to giving the guy the presumption of innocence? Wealthy people are very often the target of bullshit charges, especially when it comes to crimes of violence as they are precursors to lawsuits. Lemme tell ya, there is NOTHING better for a civil lawsuit than to have the state of Florida hand you a criminal conviction first. Talk about a slam dunk.

I posted this just a bit ago on that other board.

In Florida, Aggravated Assault is a threat made with a weapon. Not a gun though as that would have been listed specifically as an enhancement (gun charges in florida carry mandatory sentences). Could have been anything like a pool cue or a bottle, etc. Usually amts to someone holding up a stick and saying something like he will knock them back into the next century. It is a felony but also know that in Florida cops arrest with charges that are reviewed by the asst state attorneys who have to make what is called a filing decision. The charges in fact could be elevated or reduced depending on what the prosecutor thinks of them. Right now, I am sure hired counsel by Joe E is attempting to get that pushed to a 1st MM charge of simple assault.

The battery charge can be anything from some punching to a simple push. It was not a massive beatdown as then it would have been listed as an aggravated battery. Joe E is lucky thats not the charge because in Florida Ag Battery on a +65 yr old carries a mandatory three year stint in the pokey.

My experience has been that money settles these cases quite nicely. An agreement made with the victims and suddenly the prosecutor is getting calls saying, "well now that I think of it, I wasnt really thinking he would hit me with that stick" and "well I pushed him as well and I think I would rather not testify".

The Dealing in Stolen Property is a second degree felony which is classified as a max 15 yr felony. The Ag Assault is also a 2nd degree and the Battery charge is a 3rd degree Felony charge which is a 5 yr charge. The pot charge is a 1 yr max 1st degree Misdemeanor charge. For severity rank on potential sentence the most serious is the ag assault with the DSP charge next and then the battery and lastly the pot charge.

In Florida, upon conviction for a felony, the sentence range is decided by a points system. Charges are assigned points, with additional points added for previous record and other factors such as victim injuries. Unless Joe E has a major record, these charges if they all hold up (unlikely but just for the sake of discussion say they do)score at the range for discretionary state prison with a sentence range of about 18 months. Thats assuming he has no prior record and the victim injury was slight.

[Dave takes off his lawyer hat and now returns back to his regular programming of big boobies]

some good legal thinking there

CE_BigB · 06-03-2004, 07:19 AM

I cannot believe how many have jumped on the bandwagon on this thread and bashed Joe E. I dont think a third of the bashers here have cause....

I personally believe in the golden rule...

and Joe E has always treated me with love, respect, kindness and passion. He often called me "The hardest working guy in adult internet"., especially during set ups at tradeshows! Anyone that truly knows Joe knows he has a heart of gold...
He is very passionate about his family and friends.

I have counseled Joe E about what he was doing, where he was going... as a concerned friend..

Yeah... Joe partys....

HELLLLLLLOOOO - WE ALL PARTY !!!!!!!!!!

Joe E took partyin to a different level... and got to where he could not stop... How many rockstars, sportstars, actors, business mogels have we seen this happen too... hmmm?

TONS

Joe E is not alone is his plight. Many have walked down this road.

I will not turn My back on My Friend during his troubles.

Big B

Jace · 06-03-2004, 07:30 AM

fuck all the haters, i agree with that!

JoeE was one of the first people I ever met one on one in this biz, it was internext years ago....we met up with him for the first time on the gaming floor in vegas and he loved my wifes frog backpack, and offered her a $1k chip for it....she debated and then was like, wtf why not!.....he threw the backpack back at her and said keep it all.....
we ended up hanging with him all weekend, and he was just a cool ass mother fucker, nothin but a good guy that took care of the people around him...it may have been for attention, but how many of us don't do shit for attention when we are fucked up.

FREE JoeE!!!!

and on a side note...if the cops walked into my house right now, i would probably have similar charges to what he has, aside from the assualt, but if my neighbor walked into our yard and bitched at me and I pushed him, i would have that charge too....YES, pushing someone can be an assault charge

Webfather · 06-03-2004, 07:33 AM

hope to see ya in fl this summer
***********************************

I'll be here but won't be going to the tradeshow. But I may pass by the first night and see who is hangin. Doing mostly mainstream these days. Those fools are in the process of creating Internet Bubble #2 fueled by the Google IPO. The $$$ are starting to FLY!

KRL · 06-03-2004, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by Webfather
hope to see ya in fl this summer
***********************************

I'll be here but won't be going to the tradeshow. But I may pass by the first night and see who is hangin. Doing mostly mainstream these days. Those fools are in the process of creating Internet Bubble #2 fueled by the Google IPO. The $$$ are starting to FLY!

And how $$ sweeeeet $$ it is.

benc · 06-03-2004, 07:37 AM

I think when a person looks for trouble they are going to find it. A person that needs a bodyguard is someone that probably does some agressive things to people.

The path to big money, is a path of greed and ruthlessnes.

[illnet]-Romeo · 06-03-2004, 07:43 AM

I meet Joe E at one of his house parties back in 99 I think, the Maimi show. Always a nice guy to me even though we had really not done much biz together. Shame to see all these people talking shit about it...

Mike, you definatly hit the nail on the head... I wish I would have said sometihg to him when I saw him a few months back here in Tampa. It was late night at someone in the biz's house in Tampa. I didn't think much of it at the time but before I left he looked at me and said stay clean kid and gave me a kiss on the head... I guess i though he was just fucked up but looking back I kinda wish I said you too...

Anyways... Joe E good luck and we wish you the best!

Webfather · 06-03-2004, 07:55 AM

Looks like several threads talking about JoeE. Basically most true. The good, the bad, the ugly.

Personally he is very charming and charasmatic. In business he was as ruthless as they come. (Not necessarily a bad thing)

Either way.....he is part of the history of what we all do and many of us have some history with him in many ways.

I hope things work out for him.

Webfather · 06-03-2004, 08:03 AM

KRL,

This is all your fault. lol

I thought I was posting to the other thread. DUH!

;-)

Mr_Wrong_Thread_Guy · 06-03-2004, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webfather
hope to see ya in fl this summer
***********************************

I'll be here but won't be going to the tradeshow. But I may pass by the first night and see who is hangin. Doing mostly mainstream these days. Those fools are in the process of creating Internet Bubble #2 fueled by the Google IPO. The $$$ are starting to FLY!

Webfather visits GFY!

TheGoldenChild · 06-03-2004, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goreboy
I think this just about sums up this thread......most of the people here don't even know JoeE or worked with him.....i see a few have...he is a decent guy...i have had a deal or 2 go wrong with him in the past...so i did not do biz with him anymore....but i keep biz and persoanl separate.......has anyone in this biz who started after 2000 achieved the success JoeE has?

don't think so......

i love it when TGP owners with a gazillion hits of shitty traffic think they are on top of the internet world.....

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-03-2004, 09:55 AM

This is Hilarious...
How many of you were actually sending traffic to his program or conducting business with em speaking of "Johnny come fucken lately nobodies"?
I would suppose most of you won't go there but will express all this ass kisser sympathy. Put your traffic where your heart is and see how far that gets you.

This industries hypocracy is in full fucken swing these days with attempts to look good and all but really its just formal posturing.

quiet · 06-03-2004, 09:56 AM

lots of flapping lips...

Screaming · 06-03-2004, 09:57 AM

i have no idea who this is sorry, could someone fill me in

12clicks · 06-03-2004, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ

This is Hilarious...
How many of you were actually sending traffic to his program or conducting business with em speaking of "Johnny come fucken lately nobodies"?
I would suppose most of you won't go there but will express all this ass kisser sympathy. Put your traffic where your heart is and see how far that gets you.

This industries hypocracy is in full fucken swing these days with attempts to look good and all but really its just formal posturing.

what, punk?
I can't hear you with all that dogshit in your mouth.
Go out and do something before you talk about someone who has.

mary34d · 06-03-2004, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by CE_BigB

I will not turn My back on My Friend during his troubles.

Big B

Nor will I

dantheman · 06-03-2004, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by mary34d
Nor will I

ditto

good post bigB

Rick, yeah I was assuming you would be in full stride about now

I'll keep my eye open and try to find you roaming about.

kmanrox · 06-03-2004, 10:36 AM

It's not really a big deal. Shit happens to everyone, even Joe. Back in 1996 there was a misunderstanding about some money Joe owed me from one of his site that went defunct. When I saw him at a Ft. Lauderdale party I asked him whatsup. He told his accountant who was by his side to cut me a check the next day. And he did. That's good people in my book. And drugs? Who cares... I've done drugs with about 50% of the bigwigs who've posted in this board.. And when I say bigwigs, I mean multi-millionaires, liquid. You only live life once.

samuel · 06-03-2004, 10:49 AM

wtf with him?

Samuel

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-03-2004, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
what, punk?
I can't hear you with all that dogshit in your mouth.
Go out and do something before you talk about someone who has.

Thats part of the problem...

None of you old school fucks will give me the shot that I have asked for years...

Rest assured you people would not have to carry me out of jail having a drug habit then having to put a paparazzi spin on it in places like this.

I know none of ya will help me anyways...
But I do know the newer generation of webmasters will...

So with a garbled shit comming out my mouth and into your eye...

Peace.

gabe100 · 06-03-2004, 11:03 AM

I agree Big B. The golden rule.

The first thing I did was call him and lend support, as if he needs help from me...

I saw him a month ago, spent 4 days at his pad.

He'll say, no one is your friend, it's all business-but he can count on me being his.

Peaches · 06-03-2004, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Thats part of the problem...

None of you old school fucks will give me the shot that I have asked for years...

Rest assured you people would not have to carry me out of jail having a drug habit then having to put a paparazzi spin on it in places like this.

I know none of ya will help me anyways...
But I do know the newer generation of webmasters will...

So with a garbled shit comming out my mouth and into your eye...

Peace.

?????????

[illnet]-Jamie · 06-03-2004, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CE_BigB
I cannot believe how many have jumped on the bandwagon on this thread and bashed Joe E. I dont think a third of the bashers here have cause....

I personally believe in the golden rule...

and Joe E has always treated me with love, respect, kindness and passion. He often called me "The hardest working guy in adult internet"., especially during set ups at tradeshows! Anyone that truly knows Joe knows he has a heart of gold...
He is very passionate about his family and friends.

I have counseled Joe E about what he was doing, where he was going... as a concerned friend..

Yeah... Joe partys....

HELLLLLLLOOOO - WE ALL PARTY !!!!!!!!!!

Joe E took partyin to a different level... and got to where he could not stop... How many rockstars, sportstars, actors, business mogels have we seen this happen too... hmmm?

TONS

Joe E is not alone is his plight. Many have walked down this road.

I will not turn My back on My Friend during his troubles.

Big B

12clicks · 06-04-2004, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Thats part of the problem...

None of you old school fucks will give me the shot that I have asked for years...

you should ask yourself why. You won't though. You'll just keep pretending your betters are the problem, not you.

chompers · 07-22-2005, 08:50 PM

I've got some really good crack I need to unload. Anybody have JoeE's number?

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Whhhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Persignup Qon · 07-22-2005, 09:46 PM

JoeE is a good man - he's also a wild motherfucker with a thing for hot ass women, hot cars & a good time. the majority of cats in this biz would kill to be in his shoes or have his personality when he's at the top of his game. NO ONE in this biz has had more charisma & drive than Joe Elkind.

i met joe at the IA2000 (currently known as internext) in las vegas back in '98. i actually was there because of YNOT Rick (i did t-shirts for YNOT network that year). anyhow, JoeE was running Traffic Cash, met him @ a dinner @ Rio with a few industry big wigs & we hit it off. he hired me to replace JD (his traffic guy at the time) because he liked me & i was just a kid trying to get in the biz running my own little sites. i let him know i wasn't a traffic guru but he didn't care... i think he just hired me cuz he liked me & wanted to give me a hand.

anyhow... he got me setup with an apartment in ft lauderdale & we worked daily out of that little "shitty hole of an office in a strip mall" on the beach. Joe would take us out for lunch & try help us to relax even offering us a joint on some occasions

- it was fun but after a while, JB (the more business minded, biz stickler in the partnership) saw i was not that useful & fired my ass. i was mad but looking back i don't blame him... he's a shrewed, cunning business man. i respect him but i do think he did JoeE in the whole breakup... Traffic Cash wouldn't be SHIT without JoeE & IMO he just deserved better.

anyhow... i'm sad to see his going thru some issues but knowing JoeE & the things he's been thru in life, this is just a bump in the road. JoeE is my nigga & will always be. keep ya head up man... hopefully i'll be lucky enough to sit in your presence again at another dinner.

..

fatal attraction · 07-22-2005, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

JoeE is a good man - he's also a wild motherfucker with a thing for hot ass women, hot cars & a good time. the majority of cats in this biz would kill to be in his shoes or have his personality when he's at the top of his game. NO ONE in this biz has had more charisma & drive than Joe Elkind.

i met joe at the IA2000 (currently known as internext) in las vegas back in '98. i actually was there because of YNOT Rick (i did t-shirts for YNOT network that year). anyhow, JoeE was running Traffic Cash, met him @ a dinner @ Rio with a few industry big wigs & we hit it off. he hired me to replace JD (his traffic guy at the time) because he liked me & i was just a kid trying to get in the biz running my own little sites. i let him know i wasn't a traffic guru but he didn't care... i think he just hired me cuz he liked me & wanted to give me a hand.

anyhow... he got me setup with an apartment in ft lauderdale & we worked daily out of that little "shitty hole of an office in a strip mall" on the beach. Joe would take us out for lunch & try help us to relax even offering us a joint on some occasions

- it was fun but after a while, JB (the more business minded, biz stickler in the partnership) saw i was not that useful & fired my ass. i was mad but looking back i don't blame him... he's a shrewed, cunning business man. i respect him but i do think he did JoeE in the whole breakup... Traffic Cash wouldn't be SHIT without JoeE & IMO he just deserved better.

anyhow... i'm sad to see his going thru some issues but knowing JoeE & the things he's been thru in life, this is just a bump in the road. JoeE is my nigga & will always be. keep ya head up man... hopefully i'll be lucky enough to sit in your presence again at another dinner.

..

Great story!

Check the date on this thread, some idiot bumped it for some reason. At internext last year, he was totally straight, didn't even drink

lchaim · 07-22-2005, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

you should ask yourself why. You won't though. You'll just keep pretending your betters are the problem, not you.

Are you trying to say success is an inside job?

;)

spunkmaster · 07-22-2005, 11:20 PM

JoeE is still listed as the Editor in Chief in Klixx magazine?

12clicks · 07-23-2005, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chompers

I've got some really good crack I need to unload. Anybody have JoeE's number?

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Whhhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

the fry-0-later is a jealous mistress.
Come monday, you'll be filling small paper bags with fried strips of potato while Joe E is living the life you'll never achieve

fatal attraction · 07-23-2005, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

the fry-0-later is a jealous mistress.
Come monday, you'll be filling small paper bags with fried strips of potato while Joe E is living the life you'll never achieve

Hi, 12clicks! I'll be stalking you again in Miami this year

RRRED · 07-23-2005, 11:13 PM

Awwwww don't pick on JoeE... He was one of the first people in the biz who was nice to me AND my ex husband when we were going to our first conventions. He's always been so charming. We all have periods in our life when we lose a bit of control. Give him a break!

Seriously though I've seen people start living life like a rockstar when the money comes rolling in but 9 times out of 10 they lose it all! Watch and learn.

Yes I remember last year he was going for the straight and narrow. When we can learn from our issues and try to fix ourselves, that can sometimes be the ultimate definition of "success"

chompers · 07-26-2005, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

the fry-0-later is a jealous mistress.
Come monday, you'll be filling small paper bags with fried strips of potato while Joe E is living the life you'll never achieve

I LOVE YOU 12Clicks
And I love Fries and Making Fries :food-smil

Wooooooooooooooooooooo Whhhoooooooooooooooooooooo

Phoenix · 07-26-2005, 11:03 AM

JOe E is an OG why fuck with him

06-03-2004, 06:38 AM	#152
Webfather Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 49	I have to agree with about everything posted on this thread. The good, the bad, the ugly. Hopefully things will work out and Joe will land on his feet and finally calm down. Either way it is a sad event. __________________ Rick Schwartz aka Webfather aka Domain👑King® Voted Greatest Domain Investor of All-Time 2021 Voted 3x Greatest Domainer of All-Time

06-03-2004, 06:45 AM	#153
dantheman OG Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,308	good to see you rick: ) hope to see ya in fl this summer __________________ M3server.com VPS>Get your 2nd month free Ded>$100 off your 2nd month since 1996 icq-25135623 dannyh at~m3server DOT com

06-03-2004, 07:19 AM	#155
CE_BigB Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,292	I cannot believe how many have jumped on the bandwagon on this thread and bashed Joe E. I dont think a third of the bashers here have cause.... I personally believe in the golden rule... and Joe E has always treated me with love, respect, kindness and passion. He often called me "The hardest working guy in adult internet"., especially during set ups at tradeshows! Anyone that truly knows Joe knows he has a heart of gold... He is very passionate about his family and friends. I have counseled Joe E about what he was doing, where he was going... as a concerned friend.. Yeah... Joe partys.... HELLLLLLLOOOO - WE ALL PARTY !!!!!!!!!! Joe E took partyin to a different level... and got to where he could not stop... How many rockstars, sportstars, actors, business mogels have we seen this happen too... hmmm? TONS Joe E is not alone is his plight. Many have walked down this road. I will not turn My back on My Friend during his troubles. Big B __________________ NOW PAYING: $25 per FREE TRIAL signup $1.30 per email (No Deductions) CECash - Trusted & Paying since 1996! email: bigb at cecash dot com ICQ 36966649

06-03-2004, 07:33 AM	#157
Webfather Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 49	hope to see ya in fl this summer *********************************** I'll be here but won't be going to the tradeshow. But I may pass by the first night and see who is hangin. Doing mostly mainstream these days. Those fools are in the process of creating Internet Bubble #2 fueled by the Google IPO. The $$$ are starting to FLY! __________________ Rick Schwartz aka Webfather aka Domain👑King® Voted Greatest Domain Investor of All-Time 2021 Voted 3x Greatest Domainer of All-Time

06-03-2004, 07:37 AM	#159
benc Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 788	I think when a person looks for trouble they are going to find it. A person that needs a bodyguard is someone that probably does some agressive things to people. The path to big money, is a path of greed and ruthlessnes. __________________ Numerous Adult and Non Adult Domains For Sale Such as SlutVideos.com, FitWomen.com Listed on Sedo or can do direct sale

06-03-2004, 07:30 AM	#156
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	fuck all the haters, i agree with that! JoeE was one of the first people I ever met one on one in this biz, it was internext years ago....we met up with him for the first time on the gaming floor in vegas and he loved my wifes frog backpack, and offered her a $1k chip for it....she debated and then was like, wtf why not!.....he threw the backpack back at her and said keep it all..... we ended up hanging with him all weekend, and he was just a cool ass mother fucker, nothin but a good guy that took care of the people around him...it may have been for attention, but how many of us don't do shit for attention when we are fucked up. FREE JoeE!!!! and on a side note...if the cops walked into my house right now, i would probably have similar charges to what he has, aside from the assualt, but if my neighbor walked into our yard and bitched at me and I pushed him, i would have that charge too....YES, pushing someone can be an assault charge

06-03-2004, 07:43 AM	#160
[illnet]-Romeo Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa, Fl, USA Posts: 1,207	I meet Joe E at one of his house parties back in 99 I think, the Maimi show. Always a nice guy to me even though we had really not done much biz together. Shame to see all these people talking shit about it... Mike, you definatly hit the nail on the head... I wish I would have said sometihg to him when I saw him a few months back here in Tampa. It was late night at someone in the biz's house in Tampa. I didn't think much of it at the time but before I left he looked at me and said stay clean kid and gave me a kiss on the head... I guess i though he was just fucked up but looking back I kinda wish I said you too... Anyways... Joe E good luck and we wish you the best! __________________ Brian C aka Romeo JBWebCash.com Brian at Jbwebcash.com

06-03-2004, 07:55 AM	#161
Webfather Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 49	Looks like several threads talking about JoeE. Basically most true. The good, the bad, the ugly. Personally he is very charming and charasmatic. In business he was as ruthless as they come. (Not necessarily a bad thing) Either way.....he is part of the history of what we all do and many of us have some history with him in many ways. I hope things work out for him. __________________ Rick Schwartz aka Webfather aka Domain👑King® Voted Greatest Domain Investor of All-Time 2021 Voted 3x Greatest Domainer of All-Time

06-03-2004, 08:03 AM	#162
Webfather Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 49	KRL, This is all your fault. lol I thought I was posting to the other thread. DUH! ;-) __________________ Rick Schwartz aka Webfather aka Domain👑King® Voted Greatest Domain Investor of All-Time 2021 Voted 3x Greatest Domainer of All-Time

06-03-2004, 09:55 AM	#165
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	This is Hilarious... How many of you were actually sending traffic to his program or conducting business with em speaking of "Johnny come fucken lately nobodies"? I would suppose most of you won't go there but will express all this ass kisser sympathy. Put your traffic where your heart is and see how far that gets you. This industries hypocracy is in full fucken swing these days with attempts to look good and all but really its just formal posturing. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

06-03-2004, 09:56 AM	#166
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	lots of flapping lips... __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

06-03-2004, 09:57 AM	#167
Screaming I can change this!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,972	i have no idea who this is sorry, could someone fill me in __________________

06-03-2004, 10:36 AM	#171
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	It's not really a big deal. Shit happens to everyone, even Joe. Back in 1996 there was a misunderstanding about some money Joe owed me from one of his site that went defunct. When I saw him at a Ft. Lauderdale party I asked him whatsup. He told his accountant who was by his side to cut me a check the next day. And he did. That's good people in my book. And drugs? Who cares... I've done drugs with about 50% of the bigwigs who've posted in this board.. And when I say bigwigs, I mean multi-millionaires, liquid. You only live life once. __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

06-03-2004, 10:49 AM	#172
samuel Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: email address Posts: 1,986	wtf with him? Samuel

06-03-2004, 11:03 AM	#174
gabe100 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 459	I agree Big B. The golden rule. The first thing I did was call him and lend support, as if he needs help from me... I saw him a month ago, spent 4 days at his pad. He'll say, no one is your friend, it's all business-but he can count on me being his.

07-22-2005, 08:50 PM	#178
chompers Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 189	I've got some really good crack I need to unload. Anybody have JoeE's number? Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Whhhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

07-22-2005, 09:46 PM	#179
Persignup Qon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: HeLL Posts: 853	JoeE is a good man - he's also a wild motherfucker with a thing for hot ass women, hot cars & a good time. the majority of cats in this biz would kill to be in his shoes or have his personality when he's at the top of his game. NO ONE in this biz has had more charisma & drive than Joe Elkind. i met joe at the IA2000 (currently known as internext) in las vegas back in '98. i actually was there because of YNOT Rick (i did t-shirts for YNOT network that year). anyhow, JoeE was running Traffic Cash, met him @ a dinner @ Rio with a few industry big wigs & we hit it off. he hired me to replace JD (his traffic guy at the time) because he liked me & i was just a kid trying to get in the biz running my own little sites. i let him know i wasn't a traffic guru but he didn't care... i think he just hired me cuz he liked me & wanted to give me a hand. anyhow... he got me setup with an apartment in ft lauderdale & we worked daily out of that little "shitty hole of an office in a strip mall" on the beach. Joe would take us out for lunch & try help us to relax even offering us a joint on some occasions - it was fun but after a while, JB (the more business minded, biz stickler in the partnership) saw i was not that useful & fired my ass. i was mad but looking back i don't blame him... he's a shrewed, cunning business man. i respect him but i do think he did JoeE in the whole breakup... Traffic Cash wouldn't be SHIT without JoeE & IMO he just deserved better. anyhow... i'm sad to see his going thru some issues but knowing JoeE & the things he's been thru in life, this is just a bump in the road. JoeE is my nigga & will always be. keep ya head up man... hopefully i'll be lucky enough to sit in your presence again at another dinner. .. __________________ OnProbation.com \| PerSignup.com - Now Paying PPS and RevShare! {{ Portfolio: TKME \| AC \| BGDINT \| ESP - More Here... }} If You Really Get Paid in Adult, You Should Be Getting Paid By Us! Last edited by Persignup Qon; 07-22-2005 at 09:48 PM..

07-22-2005, 11:20 PM	#182
spunkmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,052	JoeE is still listed as the Editor in Chief in Klixx magazine? __________________

07-23-2005, 11:13 PM	#185
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Awwwww don't pick on JoeE... He was one of the first people in the biz who was nice to me AND my ex husband when we were going to our first conventions. He's always been so charming. We all have periods in our life when we lose a bit of control. Give him a break! Seriously though I've seen people start living life like a rockstar when the money comes rolling in but 9 times out of 10 they lose it all! Watch and learn. Yes I remember last year he was going for the straight and narrow. When we can learn from our issues and try to fix ourselves, that can sometimes be the ultimate definition of "success"

07-26-2005, 11:03 AM	#187
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,465	JOe E is an OG why fuck with him __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io