France helped us in the Revolution not because they were great guys, but because they were old enemies with Britain (as was seemingly everyone else back then including Spain and the Dutch)and were pissed off about territories they had lost in the Americas during the Seven Years War. In addition, Lafayette wanted revenge against the British for the death of his father. There wasn't some grand higher purpose that should cause us as Americans to feel endebted to them forever. Even if there was, that debt was more than repaid with American blood at Normandy. Learn some history.

i was with a girl (German) that was speaking French....

so much for that theory Einstein.

I have to say, though...for the most part, it's true, the northern French are asses.
But come to my neck of the woods, in provence...the south..we are all friendly...and our beaches are topless ;)

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I do no longer buy any products made in France. That's the best way to disagree with their policy.

This is true but as mentioned the US returned the favor not only once but twice with both WW2 and Vietnam, we saved the French's butts in both conflicts. I don't think most Americans really wanted Iraq but it was forced upon us by a corrupt leader.

I think the reason most Americans now have issues with France, is because France's leaders came out and said that they would not support the war in Iraq no matter what the proof was. This means even if Bush wasn't the moron he is, and if there was a real reason to attack Iraq. The French still would have protested it.

Why? Because the French just like the Russians had a lot to lose with Iraq being taken down. Both countries had a lot of business dealings with Iraq after the first Gulf war. Notice both of these countries were the most vocal about not going into Iraq.

One can argue the US took out Iraq for oil or what ever, but one can also argue that both the French and the Russians were willing to do business with a man that only 11-12 years earlier sent his troops to Kuwait to kill and rape innocent people. I may not agree with the Iraq war but one thing is for sure Sadam and his regime needed to be brought down, the world is a better place with out him. May take a little while to recover in Iraq, but they will be better off.

the French didn't say that.

Actually no. It would propably be owned by russians.

The nazis lost the war in 1943.

We liberated the west front earlier. What we did for the most part was stopping the communists from taking back all Europe.

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I love French pussy :Graucho

50 French Pussies!

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what policy?


Bush wanted support for a prefabricated bullshit war.
France told told Bush to go fuck himself.

Turns out France was right. No threatening WMD were found.
Now religious fundamentalists have gained power in Iraq.

France 1 - America 0

Bush thinks God talks to him, wants prayer in school, and to give tax money to religious groups.
France is forcing all religious bullshit out of government and public education.

France 2 - America 0


Why should I dislike the French?

True. But the Bush gang brainwashed the US population in beleiving that they actually said that....

France wanted:

- to continue the UN inspection
- Have proof of WMD and deceipt to have a resolution to invade


...the little US memory forgets that France was there for the Gulf War and for Kosovo...

BTW, any news on the imminent threat of thge WMD to the US???

Or what happened to the flowers greeting the US " liberators"
- or the closing of rape rooms in prisons
- and do on.

FRANCE OWNED YOU: PAY UP BITCHES!


to the tune of 200 billions....

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Aside from the already mentioned fact that the main reason France sided with the colonies was to gang up on Britain, France did not contribute significant military aid until 1778, 3 years after fighting had begun. France did not openly support the Americans until after the Americans had already proved they meant business and had a chance. Additionally, Spain and the Netherlands also aided the Americans, so for anyone to say that without France we wouldn't exist is a pretty exagerrated statement.

To even compare that to the American liberation of France during WW2 is a joke. Helping out after some else has done most of the work is completely different than pushing all enemy forces out of a country that basically rolled over and gave half their country to the enemy and only resistance was blowing up a few train tracks and mainly helping other soldiers from other countries do their work.

So yes, the French are still pussies. They'll fight if they think it's a cake walk, but when push comes to shove they're far from the front lines.

Lastly anyone thinking that France did not support the war in Iraq because they didn't think it was right, you need to think again. The main reason they stayed out was FEAR. Fear of public opinion, fear of casualties, and most likely a huge fear of terrorism from their large North African and Arab population that they have little control over.

Pussies.

but French pussies are one of the best! :winkwink:

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aww zee french are good, americans are good, canada rules but i hate the "Quebecwa" (not evensure how to spell that, who the fuck cares)(french speaking canadians)

Thats what you did in WW2 Slappy!

1939... no America

1940... no America

1941... no America.

December 1941 - America is attacked and declares war on Japan and subsequently Germany.

You waitied over two years...

Sounds like Americans are the pussies, not the French. You let the British, the Australians, the Russians and the rest of the allies do all the work and then you conveniently roll in half way through and act like you're saving the day.

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and now we're idiots for being proactive in iraq? wait or dont wait? make up your mind

you need to check your facts. the US supported Britain and the other allied countries with 10's of 1000's of thousands of tons of aid and god only knows how much oil and other supplies BEFORE they got into the war. They lost countless merchant marine ships in the Atlantic and 1000's died sending supplies to Europe to support those fighting Germany.

Why would Americans be pussies for not jumping right in and fighting a war on another continent between other countries? Does that mean everyone in Iceland a bunch of pussies? Why doesn't France go to Iraq and fight?... simple... it's always politics.

Aren't you the genius? Only an idiot would compare the might of Hitler's German war machine to Saddam's sanction starved third world rag tag armed forces.

Here's an idea... grow some brain cells and then come back and make an intelligent post.

Come on, you need to do better than comparing the USA and Iceland.

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i guess you'd of liked him to kill thousands of innocent people before we took action against him.
all saddam needed was to smuggle 1 wmd into the us and use it to cause the destruction of 9/11
with troops or bombs, he could of done serious damage to the us and even your liberal leaders agreed he had the WMD to do it.

if it werent for america, the french would be speaking german :thumbsup

You know, comparing Iraq and Saddam to Nazi Germany? That's ridiculous. Maybe the US shouldn't have gone after Hitler, maybe they should've gone after some small-time dictator instead.

If you had compared Nazi Germany to North Korea, then at least you got something because Kim Jong Il is much more similar to Hitler and does have a decent military.

so if iraq had a bigger well suited army, the war would be justified in your opinion?

Now why exactly would he do that? Why would he risk his life for such a stupid thing? Besides, how many not-so friendly countries would be qualified for invasion then? Afterall, there's always a way for them to screw us.

You know that our Pakistani allies turned out to be the ones smuggling nuclear technology and WMD's to North Korea and Iran? Funny that Iraq wasn't even in the list.

Unlikely, it would have been liberated or enslaved by the Soviet Union.

Good point! :thumbsup

Not necesseraly, but heck at least I'd see it as a threat.

As Powell said in February 2001, even Saddam's conventional weapons can't even threaten his neighbours.

thank you :thumbsup

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we needed troops! although the aid went down nicely. :glugglug

do you know any French people? I can assure you they wouldn't be speaking German.

The French are pussies!

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http://twin-towers.net/french1.jpg

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You can always tell a coward because they always pick on those weaker than themselves. You never see a bully taking on a bigger, stronger opponent, only someone they know they can beat.

The best thing was to rename "French Fries" into "Freedom Fries" LOL :1orglaugh