do i need a warning page? (more legal talk) - GoFuckYourself.com

HQ · 02-21-2001, 08:56 PM

Do i need a warning page on my site?

All i got going is some softcore, with no entrance pages or warnings or disclaimers or anything. the only legal stuff i have is the 'these pictures are copyrighted by blahblah and are not in the public domain' at the bottom of my site.

should i be worried about breaking any laws (unknown to me)???

oh yeah, and i'm canadian too, if that matters.

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Gemini · 02-21-2001, 10:33 PM

yes you should have a warning page. At least the index page should be one. And thats where you put your meta tags etc from places like safesurf in order to trigger the kiddylockout programs. Not sure if its a law quite yet but I bet it will be soon. We're probably a minority but we don't think the sex should be right out on page 1. I guess having teenagers might bring that on.

Corpsie · 02-21-2001, 10:42 PM

It would be ideal to "cover your ass"
with a warning page. You should also
have the correct http://www.rsac.org/
meta tags on everypage too.

Rictor · 02-21-2001, 10:50 PM

If they make any anti-porn laws, a warning page probably won't be enough. All nudity will probably have to be behind a password protected or AVS protected entrance. This would give non-U.S. webmasters a definite advantage that they don't currently have.

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Dirtypainter · 02-21-2001, 10:52 PM

HQ
I believe strongly that all sites have warning pages. It makes great searchengines gateway pages. I use My index page for most directories as warning pages. It helps in selling to some that try and sneak in the back door.

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Rose · 02-21-2001, 10:54 PM

Why would you wanna give surfers free content on your first page?Make nice warning page with few links to the sponsors(but no hardcore banners).Hopefully
they click on sponsor before they burn your bandwith.

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HQ · 02-21-2001, 11:39 PM

Thanks for the replies.

I don't have any content on my front page, just a daily pic on some of my sites. but i do have thumbnails which could be considered content (a mother not wanting her 10 year old son looking at porn probalby would consider the thumbnails content!)

so basically, besides for a daily pic, there's no real content. the surfer has to click on 'galleries' to see any more.

if they come up with anti-porn laws, i'll just put my galleries behind passwords or AVS or whatever... but the warning page still just seems to get in the way

the only idea i like is using an entrance page to send hits to banners and such.

Dirtypainter, what do mean by warning pages make great searchengines gateway pages? and how does this help?

more than anything, i was just wondering if i'll get in trouble for having porn right off the bat! come visit my site at: www.pornrightoffthebat.com!! haha

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[This message has been edited by HQ (edited 02-21-2001).]

Aussie · 02-22-2001, 01:39 AM

Whats so bad about FREE content on your first page ?

I have free content, about 1500 pictures. Which I open up every so often.

As for the warning page, what about netnanny and all that jazz or is that a waste of time.

Gemini · 02-22-2001, 01:56 AM

All of the kiddy kicker progs and ratings have to run from meta tags in order to work. So they have to go in to the index page to tag the kiddy surfers. If you have front page content you're sort of circumventing the kicker aren't you? Why bother adding the tags if you are going to serve it up to them front and center.
This is the sort of thing we need to be real careful about now. We're betting if Ashcroft *does* go after the porn industry, it won't just be the US. They aren't dumb so they'll be looking to get as many other countries involved as possible. If we self police a little, maybe it will pass over. But then again there will always be the jerks who refuse to go along for the good of all. Grab the buck and run motto.

[This message has been edited by Gemini (edited 02-22-2001).]

Dirtypainter · 02-22-2001, 06:53 AM

HQ
a search engine gateway page is a page that is optimized for search engines. Every search engine has diffrent methods for indexing your site. Use the alt img for key words, sprinkle a few throughout the mainpage. but also keep in mind you don't want to repeat them over and over. Some will not index you for spaming the keywords.

So for each directory try targeting for some major keywords.

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HQ · 02-22-2001, 11:05 AM

Dirtypainter
ok i see. try to make your entrance page appear 'perfect' to the search engine... the search engine has no idea what the page is really about.

it's hard to play that search engine game, it's hard to tell if you've succeeded or not. but it's FREE traffic, and that's why i'm so interested in it!

how have you done with SE traffic so far?

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Dirtypainter · 02-22-2001, 02:27 PM

HQ well most times I sux at it *L* but it never hurts to try.

though I do have a 20th spot on lycos.com right now for the word join4free.com

and I didn't even target that one. but now I am going to *LOL*

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HQ · 02-22-2001, 09:49 PM

i'm in a few SE's top 10 or 20 with searching 'nude' and 'babes'.

doesn't give me all that much surprisingly... and i don't understand why i've moved up over the years either.

i just don't get SE's at all. i should figure them out someday to make the best of them.

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HQ

Corpsie · 02-22-2001, 09:52 PM

The more written text that you have (in sentence and paragraph form) the better your rankings will be in the SE database.

Someday, they'll probably have an algorithm to make sure websites aren't just loading up with dummy text.

Melvin the Dude · 06-02-2004, 08:23 PM

It'd be wise to have a warning page, along with 2257 !

mastamind · 06-02-2004, 08:24 PM

cover your ass just in case with a warning page and 2257

BV · 06-02-2004, 08:24 PM

if it's a paysite visa requires it

YentaGirl · 06-02-2004, 08:25 PM

It is always wise to have a warning page with no nudity on it. Its always good to be on the safe side. Then fill your site with ARS banners. Get them thru my signature banner below.

freeadultcontent · 06-02-2004, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Melvin the Dude
It'd be wise to have a warning page, along with 2257 !

2257 not needed with pure softcore. Assuming of course people understand what softcore actually is.
A warning page has not shown to do jack diddly squat with the laws. I am pretty curious since so many people here are tgp posters or owners, how many tgps do you submit to or run that have warning pages?

4Pics · 06-02-2004, 08:29 PM

i dont think it'll matter, if they want to fuck you they will.

chodadog · 06-02-2004, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
yes you should have a warning page. At least the index page should be one. And thats where you put your meta tags etc from places like safesurf in order to trigger the kiddylockout programs. Not sure if its a law quite yet but I bet it will be soon. We're probably a minority but we don't think the sex should be right out on page 1. I guess having teenagers might bring that on.

I never really understood the point of a warning page. I mean, who is coming to your site that doesn't intend to see porn? If they're coming from a search engine, they're looking for porn. If they're coming from an affiliate's link, they're obviously already looking at porn, and i assume you don't send affiliate traffic to a warning page first (correct me if i'm wrong, of course). And if they type in, well, unless your domain isn't clearly pornographic, then again, they're obviously looking for porn.

And no warning about being 18 years old is going to deter a horny 16 year old with his dick in his hand.

02-21-2001, 08:56 PM	#1
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	do i need a warning page? (more legal talk) Do i need a warning page on my site? All i got going is some softcore, with no entrance pages or warnings or disclaimers or anything. the only legal stuff i have is the 'these pictures are copyrighted by blahblah and are not in the public domain' at the bottom of my site. should i be worried about breaking any laws (unknown to me)??? oh yeah, and i'm canadian too, if that matters. ------------------ HQ

02-21-2001, 10:33 PM	#2
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	yes you should have a warning page. At least the index page should be one. And thats where you put your meta tags etc from places like safesurf in order to trigger the kiddylockout programs. Not sure if its a law quite yet but I bet it will be soon. We're probably a minority but we don't think the sex should be right out on page 1. I guess having teenagers might bring that on.

02-21-2001, 10:42 PM	#3
Corpsie Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: detroit, mi, usa Posts: 474	It would be ideal to "cover your ass" with a warning page. You should also have the correct http://www.rsac.org/ meta tags on everypage too.

02-21-2001, 10:50 PM	#4
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	If they make any anti-porn laws, a warning page probably won't be enough. All nudity will probably have to be behind a password protected or AVS protected entrance. This would give non-U.S. webmasters a definite advantage that they don't currently have. ------------------ PigPorn TGP Big Penis Webmaster Program - Free Bannerless Hosting!

02-21-2001, 10:52 PM	#5
Dirtypainter Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Boondocks, Iowa Posts: 425	HQ I believe strongly that all sites have warning pages. It makes great searchengines gateway pages. I use My index page for most directories as warning pages. It helps in selling to some that try and sneak in the back door. ------------------ Thumper The Amatuer next door!

02-21-2001, 10:54 PM	#6
Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ON,Canada Posts: 1,456	Why would you wanna give surfers free content on your first page?Make nice warning page with few links to the sponsors(but no hardcore banners).Hopefully they click on sponsor before they burn your bandwith. ------------------ Submit your free sites for free traffic

02-21-2001, 11:39 PM	#7
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	Thanks for the replies. I don't have any content on my front page, just a daily pic on some of my sites. but i do have thumbnails which could be considered content (a mother not wanting her 10 year old son looking at porn probalby would consider the thumbnails content!) so basically, besides for a daily pic, there's no real content. the surfer has to click on 'galleries' to see any more. if they come up with anti-porn laws, i'll just put my galleries behind passwords or AVS or whatever... but the warning page still just seems to get in the way the only idea i like is using an entrance page to send hits to banners and such. Dirtypainter, what do mean by warning pages make great searchengines gateway pages? and how does this help? more than anything, i was just wondering if i'll get in trouble for having porn right off the bat! come visit my site at: www.pornrightoffthebat.com!! haha ------------------ HQ [This message has been edited by HQ (edited 02-21-2001).]

02-22-2001, 01:39 AM	#8
Aussie Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 262	Whats so bad about FREE content on your first page ? I have free content, about 1500 pictures. Which I open up every so often. As for the warning page, what about netnanny and all that jazz or is that a waste of time.

02-22-2001, 01:56 AM	#9
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	All of the kiddy kicker progs and ratings have to run from meta tags in order to work. So they have to go in to the index page to tag the kiddy surfers. If you have front page content you're sort of circumventing the kicker aren't you? Why bother adding the tags if you are going to serve it up to them front and center. This is the sort of thing we need to be real careful about now. We're betting if Ashcroft does go after the porn industry, it won't just be the US. They aren't dumb so they'll be looking to get as many other countries involved as possible. If we self police a little, maybe it will pass over. But then again there will always be the jerks who refuse to go along for the good of all. Grab the buck and run motto. [This message has been edited by Gemini (edited 02-22-2001).]

02-22-2001, 06:53 AM	#10
Dirtypainter Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Boondocks, Iowa Posts: 425	HQ a search engine gateway page is a page that is optimized for search engines. Every search engine has diffrent methods for indexing your site. Use the alt img for key words, sprinkle a few throughout the mainpage. but also keep in mind you don't want to repeat them over and over. Some will not index you for spaming the keywords. So for each directory try targeting for some major keywords. ------------------ Thumper The Amatuer next door!

02-22-2001, 11:05 AM	#11
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	Dirtypainter ok i see. try to make your entrance page appear 'perfect' to the search engine... the search engine has no idea what the page is really about. it's hard to play that search engine game, it's hard to tell if you've succeeded or not. but it's FREE traffic, and that's why i'm so interested in it! how have you done with SE traffic so far? ------------------ HQ

02-22-2001, 02:27 PM	#12
Dirtypainter Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Boondocks, Iowa Posts: 425	HQ well most times I sux at it L but it never hurts to try. though I do have a 20th spot on lycos.com right now for the word join4free.com and I didn't even target that one. but now I am going to LOL ------------------ Thumper The Amatuer next door!

02-22-2001, 09:49 PM	#13
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	i'm in a few SE's top 10 or 20 with searching 'nude' and 'babes'. doesn't give me all that much surprisingly... and i don't understand why i've moved up over the years either. i just don't get SE's at all. i should figure them out someday to make the best of them. ------------------ HQ

02-22-2001, 09:52 PM	#14
Corpsie Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: detroit, mi, usa Posts: 474	The more written text that you have (in sentence and paragraph form) the better your rankings will be in the SE database. Someday, they'll probably have an algorithm to make sure websites aren't just loading up with dummy text.

06-02-2004, 08:23 PM	#15
Melvin the Dude Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 844	It'd be wise to have a warning page, along with 2257 !

06-02-2004, 08:24 PM	#16
mastamind Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 429	cover your ass just in case with a warning page and 2257

06-02-2004, 08:24 PM	#17
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	if it's a paysite visa requires it

06-02-2004, 08:25 PM	#18
YentaGirl Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 156	It is always wise to have a warning page with no nudity on it. Its always good to be on the safe side. Then fill your site with ARS banners. Get them thru my signature banner below.

06-02-2004, 08:29 PM	#20
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	i dont think it'll matter, if they want to fuck you they will.