200 deadbeats

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

So True.....:1orglaugh great one BVF

Grimm helped me also, had some technical problems and he fixed it for me, honestly, why would anyone take off with just 12k ? Thats like fucking up ur future for some pocketmoney....

BVF where you got that one from ? you made it ?

I made it awhile ago back around the time when grimshawn left max hardcore.

Good luck in resolving this situation WiredGuy.

I love that pic everytime you post it. :D

It was you !!!

Now things are starting to fall into place. You shouda seen the shit Grim came up with.

Entertain me, tell me about it (GFY at WIRED2000 dot COM). Please use a descriptive title like FROM GFY so I won't think your email is spam. Would love to know how you're involved in this.

WG

Email sent.

Yup, we're talking about the same project. Will contact your ICQ in a few mins.

WG

To Joesho:

If Wired Guy wanted to start a thread about this he would have done it himself.

B

Holy shit.

is it better than holy piss :1orglaugh

one must bless all that is holy....
See haters, by me starting this thread charles actually got some help he may have needed, and all the rerst of you got a good warning, and a nice wake up call...

I should charge you a consultants fee.

Ok lets refocus here.

Seems a lot of people are making Joesho out to be the badguy here.. Maybe my comments didnt exactly help things and assisted in creating a distraction from what the real concern here is.. That is Grim Shawn..

Like him or hate him, or think that this is wrong, or right of Joe to start this thread is irrevalant now.. What is revalant is that Grim Fucked up.. Period.. Many of us knew of this situation well before Joe posted it, its been talked about on other boards now for weeks, so to attack and be pissed at Joesho for posting this really kinda silly.. Its been in the public for sometime now.

Yeah naturally I would have liked this just to all die away and not be talked about anymore so we can just focus on getting Grim to pay his debts.. But life isnt that easy.. Wheather it be Joesho, or anyother person bringing it up publically the issue of Grim Shawn one thing always remains constant.. That Grim Fucked up..

Sure stabbing Grim and attacking him on the boards isnt gunna help the casue, but its the nature of the webmaster community.. You fuck up, people will know about it. You steal, people will know about it.. Its how things are now days.. This should be a lesson to many.

I hope Grim can rise above all this and correct what he has done. Its not really the end of the world and Wired guy has been very accomdationg in setting up a payment plan for Grim.. I hope he honors Wired Guys plan.. He said he would last week, and like many Im intrested in seeing what becomes of it..

As for the other debt he aquired with Local G, using the family name I have offered to absorb that and pay local G what Grim has borrowed.. Using my name to borrow money sits with me in a way none of you can imagine.. Im not about to post how I feel and how pissed I am at this action Grim did with using my name to borrow money with local G.. Local G has declined my offer to absorb his debt and is just writing this off as a bad expeirence..

Nevertheless you people have no idea how pissed I really am..

And Joe, if If I tried to turn this around and make you look like a bad guy I apoligize.. I and the others here need to realize that Grim is the person who fucekd up here.. Not the people posting info or news.. Thats just the nature of the webmaster community..

If it wasnt Joesho, it would have been someone else.

Shawn told you he would honor it? It would help if he actually contacted me to sign the agreement. His word is not as meaningful as a signature.



Step into my shoes for a little while, lol :)

WG

I always knew that guy was a snake, I know its easier for me to say that now, but I always had a feeling, I never saw that guy post one business related thing ever, he was just some guy that got drunk all the time and posted about Jagermeister, same with that other guy that appeared at the same time as him, but I wont say his name because a bunch of people "like him" as well.

Lots of snakes here at GFY, becareful!.

I hope this situation comes to a solution. Sounds like there's a chance for each party to benefit when the debts are paid. It always sucks when business goes bad.

Charles I truley hope things work out and that you get your money back.

:)

WG

Hope evrything works out for you

Wow I can't believe I just read all of that.......... Well it seems that this grim Shawn guy is nothing but a punk, scammer, and a drunk:2 cents: :2 cents: I met the guy at a few shows, and I always thought he was nothing but a scammer and Punk, and now the truth comes out. Well good luck WG.

I've really gotta hit the boards more because i totally missed this one. This happened so long ago that I was quite surprised that it is only being dealt with now.

I hope there haven't been others who have been stung too badly in related situations with Shawn.

Grim made a mistake..He is a stand up guy and will do the right thing.People who have never met him or partied with him know he is a good guy.I hope things work out..I refuse to jump on the bandwagon and slam Shawn like he did this on purpose.
Things will work out.

heard of this sad

It makes me sick how so many of you have fucking tards crapped on Shawn for a situation most of you know nothing about. Leave the issue between WG, BoneProne and Shawn. I've known Shawn for a little more then 2 years now and he has always been a stand up guy with me and has helped me out without asking anything in return. And many of you can say the same.
It really suprises me if he did anything maliciously and I hope all this gets worked out.
By the way Joesho should stay the fuck out of other peoples business, especially when money is involved. Bad idea
GOD DAMN third party gossip drama. No fucking class at all.
WiredGuy and BoneProne have been handling this very well considering its their money. Again I hope this all works out.
:2 cents:

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"see, this is why I dont say much." - Carl

Shit, I'm rolling out the pizza dough..

Thanks, much appreciated.
WG

I want some pizza now too! :(

boneprone has my respect for handling others people mess which he shouldn't.

you are a dumb ass.... boneprone is not even involved....
he is just trying to help, from a THIRD party perspective just like me....:321GFY glad to know you are a stupid one, now I can remove you from the could be ok list.. but perception sems to be a weak point for you kid...

one thing I gotta say Boneprone, is you were right about how many stupid fucks will believe anything here....
Nah I am not upset at all for you trying to turn the focus....
it would appear on the outset that I was going after shawn due to his BP4L status (former) but the truth is I like a lot of people that call themselves BP4L just as we have discussed before... Dugmor is great, JMan is a legend, and many others that I like etc....... the point here is three fold one don't just buy into something because you think the person is "COOL" or is gonna take you somewhere... and two heed warning signs from others that have no intention of fucking you around...

I truley believe however that number three is the best, if the good guy people in this business do not look out for each other, the bad guys will win plain and simple!

I very much like both guys and you too Joe, not too sure what went on with the 12K but there are always 5 or six sides to a story, that number expands exponentially when it hits the boards.

:2 cents: