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Tam · 01-31-2001, 10:18 AM

Can someone please help me to understand some things here? It's REALLY bugging me to no end here!!!

I have been in this business for 19 months or so now, and I am STILL trying to figure out a few things. I moderate for reportchildporn.com , ok....... I got handed a site yesterday that contains very young naked girls on it... site is hosted in the USA, said site has a webmaster program..... the whole bit. BUT whenever I report a site like this, I am told they cannot do anything about it because there is no actual PORN on it and they get by with it by saying that it's artistic....... MY ASS!!!! They set it up to sell off of porn sites, they show very young..... I am thinking this girl is about maybe 10 or so........ girls on it, and use other porn sites to sell these sites.

Now maybe I am a dumbass or something but I honestly in my heart of hearts do not see how this is even in the slightest bit tolerated, they are very young and what? Just because they show no penetration, they can actually get by with this? They can sell it as a porn site.... knowing damn well what perverts are going to do with it..... and this is ok?

Am I this much of a dumbass that I am not getting it? Someone please tell me how this is acceptable and yet if there is any actual sex going on, this is a no-no........

Don't get me wrong...... NONE of it should be tolerated and I think that any and all adults involved, even on an "artistic" level should be shot in the damn heads....... but if it's artistic, then what loophole allows them to sell it as a porn site and this is fine? It's really starting to piss me off.

I bring this here because there doesn't seem to be any assholes around that are going to just have a pissing match with me.... I truly want to understand so maybe it doesn't bug me as bad when I see this shit.. it tears my heart out, artistic or not, it just doesn't seem right to me.

Thanks and so sorry to babble......

Tam

MrCockTale · 01-31-2001, 10:39 AM

I know it sucks

What I always do
when I find a CP site, is hotlinking
all his pics and some html files with
a 1x1 img src so he will get a biggggg
bandwidth bill.. I guess that's all I can
do.

Andy · 01-31-2001, 10:40 AM

hey Tam you're right,
it is sick and you, me and whole fucking webmaster world don't like it
but there's really nothing we can do with this shit

you know I also still don't know what is rated as a child porn .. I think naked little chick is enough or do the girls need to suck some dicks to get rated as porn ...
there's no difference ( I think ) or ?
kids have nothing to do in this business

PEACE

Jamdin · 01-31-2001, 10:42 AM

If they are promoting it as a porn site, then I would think that the artistic defense would go out the window.

paparoach · 01-31-2001, 10:42 AM

Hi Tam,
I know what you mean.
I have turned in a few sites.
One site had actual penetration on mpeg.
But the site was'nt touched. I got the same message as you and this was like 3 years ago.
Between me and my wife we have 5 girls and 1 boy. So I am like you it kills me to see this kinda shit.
I wish I could help. Maybe I'll post them on some blacklists.

Andy · 01-31-2001, 10:43 AM

MrCockTale,
I don't know
but the hotlinking may be considered as cheating and it doesn't metter if it's CP site or not .. I think there're some rule we have to follow and if those fuckers breake them we shouldn't cause we would be the same as they are
Just my opinion I could be wrong ...

PantieZ · 01-31-2001, 11:18 AM

If ya find a CP site - MY TIP !

Install linux , make a warsetup .
check site for exploits and holes and start FUCK THEM UP !!
Blow the server or erase all that shit ;o)

Tam · 01-31-2001, 11:19 AM

Well I have to agree with Jam, if it's promoting porn, I don't see how anything artistic can even be made of these sites.
http://www.annegeddes.com/

THIS to me is artistic.........

the sites I am seeing in the porn industry fly in the face of everything I believe in when it comes to promoting children...... artistic or not, it's all bullshit. They are trying to sell porn and there is not even the slightest hint of doubt about it.

So I am thinking I am not alone in this.... if it is promoting porn, there is not a good enough excuse or loophole on the planet to excuse this, right? Sorry, I get in these moods when I have to deal with this... people tell me over and over that it's part of it.... well I don't like this part of it, dammit.

I have 4 kids of my own, for the record... so maybe that is part of why I hate it so bad... I cannot ever in my wildest imagination trying to use my kids to even think of selling porn....... artistic or not, it's just not right.

Tam

Johan · 01-31-2001, 11:20 AM

Does somebody know what international laws say about this?

Is it so much behind, so ancient, that there still could be some loopholes which can protect these assholes?
Just take them behind the sauna and put a bullet in their forehead, as we say here in Finland.

MrCockTale · 01-31-2001, 11:32 AM

cheating who!? A fucking CP-lover? I DON'T
CARE

So you're saying thehun is cheating everyone
using his trademark!?

(check out this code on his page)

<script>
//* preloading stuff off someone that is violating a trademark and is copying my links.
var c=new Image(); c.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/index.htm";
var d=new Image(); d.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/j4f.gif";
var e=new Image(); e.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/join4free.jpg";
</script>

MrCockTale · 01-31-2001, 11:33 AM

sorry forget to use the code tags

Code:

<script>
//* preloading stuff off someone that is violating a trademark and is copying my links. 
var c=new Image(); c.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/index.htm";
var d=new Image(); d.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/j4f.gif";
var e=new Image(); e.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/join4free.jpg";
</script>

MrCockTale · 01-31-2001, 11:35 AM

argh the code tage doens't work with HTML
codes

*ruin my reputation here*

anyway, it looks like this

Code:

//* preloading stuff off someone that is violating a trademark and is copying my links. 
var c=new Image(); c.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/index.htm";
var d=new Image(); d.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/j4f.gif";
var e=new Image(); e.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/join4free.jpg"

birdy · 01-31-2001, 11:35 AM

I totally agree with you also Tam. I have a boy and a girl of my own and that kind of stuf makes me sick. The thing is if no one went to those sites they wouldn't be up. Any time you see something listed on a top list that indicates child porn they get more traffic than anyone. I really dont get why that is. Sure there are a lot of perverts out there but are there realy that many? Or what? If not why does your average porn lover visit these places? Just to see weahter or not is for real. In any case in all comes down to demand and supply. If they made no money they wouldnt be in business. I like the idea of linking to their images.

Gemini · 01-31-2001, 12:00 PM

The probably get more traffic from the curious wanting to see if they actually *have* cp there and maybe what the fuss is all about. Has anyone turned to Helmy for some help with this? He has a pert good track record from what I have read and seen. I know he shut some egroups down awhile back that had pics (stolen naturally) that the girls looked about 13.
And I can of agree with the linux attack if all else fails. lol And burn their bandwidth all you can. Let em get hit with a 30,000 BW bill for a month and see how fast they disappear! Maybe if more of us did the BW way we could shut them down quicker! (Need help here, I know how to hotlink but no clue how to increase their BW bills. lol)

Tam · 01-31-2001, 12:06 PM

Well I have turned them in to everyone I know to turn them in to and it's all the same, artistic loopholes.......... these asses even have a huge webmaster sponsor program with about 4 other young girls sites listed on it........ and I don't know how to do all that exploit shit..... I am such a dumbass when it comes to all that shit... AND I don't have enough traffic to eat up my own bandwidth bill, much less theirs.

Tam

Fucker · 01-31-2001, 12:39 PM

MrCockTable-
I could see how that would be cool to run up their server bill, but think about this.
if your hotlinking kp images then 1 pixel or not, your using kp on your site also!

dont think thats such a good idea!

MrCockTale · 01-31-2001, 12:41 PM

ofcourse I will not hotlink CP pics

Just
other pics on the site

Gemini · 01-31-2001, 01:03 PM

Hmmmm the other pics and graphics sound like a plan... but isn't there a way to also load the other pics in a black out or invisible way? At one pixel per image and enough webmasters doing it to them then their BW would skyrocket!

Fucker · 01-31-2001, 01:14 PM

even at one pixel it still has to load the entire image on the browser... you just dont see it. (tiny speck) like my counters!!!!

01-31-2001, 10:18 AM	#1
Tam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,486	In all seriousness, I NEED some help here!! Can someone please help me to understand some things here? It's REALLY bugging me to no end here!!! I have been in this business for 19 months or so now, and I am STILL trying to figure out a few things. I moderate for reportchildporn.com , ok....... I got handed a site yesterday that contains very young naked girls on it... site is hosted in the USA, said site has a webmaster program..... the whole bit. BUT whenever I report a site like this, I am told they cannot do anything about it because there is no actual PORN on it and they get by with it by saying that it's artistic....... MY ASS!!!! They set it up to sell off of porn sites, they show very young..... I am thinking this girl is about maybe 10 or so........ girls on it, and use other porn sites to sell these sites. Now maybe I am a dumbass or something but I honestly in my heart of hearts do not see how this is even in the slightest bit tolerated, they are very young and what? Just because they show no penetration, they can actually get by with this? They can sell it as a porn site.... knowing damn well what perverts are going to do with it..... and this is ok? Am I this much of a dumbass that I am not getting it? Someone please tell me how this is acceptable and yet if there is any actual sex going on, this is a no-no........ Don't get me wrong...... NONE of it should be tolerated and I think that any and all adults involved, even on an "artistic" level should be shot in the damn heads....... but if it's artistic, then what loophole allows them to sell it as a porn site and this is fine? It's really starting to piss me off. I bring this here because there doesn't seem to be any assholes around that are going to just have a pissing match with me.... I truly want to understand so maybe it doesn't bug me as bad when I see this shit.. it tears my heart out, artistic or not, it just doesn't seem right to me. Thanks and so sorry to babble...... Tam

01-31-2001, 10:39 AM	#2
MrCockTale Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 669	I know it sucks What I always do when I find a CP site, is hotlinking all his pics and some html files with a 1x1 img src so he will get a biggggg bandwidth bill.. I guess that's all I can do.

01-31-2001, 10:40 AM	#3
Andy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: A nice little folder on some C drive inside a huge server ;) Posts: 460	hey Tam you're right, it is sick and you, me and whole fucking webmaster world don't like it but there's really nothing we can do with this shit you know I also still don't know what is rated as a child porn .. I think naked little chick is enough or do the girls need to suck some dicks to get rated as porn ... there's no difference ( I think ) or ? kids have nothing to do in this business PEACE

01-31-2001, 10:42 AM	#4
Jamdin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,560	If they are promoting it as a porn site, then I would think that the artistic defense would go out the window.

01-31-2001, 10:42 AM	#5
paparoach Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Wheelersburg,Ohio Posts: 404	Hi Tam, I know what you mean. I have turned in a few sites. One site had actual penetration on mpeg. But the site was'nt touched. I got the same message as you and this was like 3 years ago. Between me and my wife we have 5 girls and 1 boy. So I am like you it kills me to see this kinda shit. I wish I could help. Maybe I'll post them on some blacklists.

01-31-2001, 10:43 AM	#6
Andy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: A nice little folder on some C drive inside a huge server ;) Posts: 460	MrCockTale, I don't know but the hotlinking may be considered as cheating and it doesn't metter if it's CP site or not .. I think there're some rule we have to follow and if those fuckers breake them we shouldn't cause we would be the same as they are Just my opinion I could be wrong ...

01-31-2001, 11:18 AM	#7
PantieZ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Panty Land Posts: 1,441	If ya find a CP site - MY TIP ! Install linux , make a warsetup . check site for exploits and holes and start FUCK THEM UP !! Blow the server or erase all that shit ;o)

01-31-2001, 11:19 AM	#8
Tam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,486	Well I have to agree with Jam, if it's promoting porn, I don't see how anything artistic can even be made of these sites. http://www.annegeddes.com/ THIS to me is artistic......... the sites I am seeing in the porn industry fly in the face of everything I believe in when it comes to promoting children...... artistic or not, it's all bullshit. They are trying to sell porn and there is not even the slightest hint of doubt about it. So I am thinking I am not alone in this.... if it is promoting porn, there is not a good enough excuse or loophole on the planet to excuse this, right? Sorry, I get in these moods when I have to deal with this... people tell me over and over that it's part of it.... well I don't like this part of it, dammit. I have 4 kids of my own, for the record... so maybe that is part of why I hate it so bad... I cannot ever in my wildest imagination trying to use my kids to even think of selling porn....... artistic or not, it's just not right. Tam

01-31-2001, 11:20 AM	#9
Johan Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 157	Does somebody know what international laws say about this? Is it so much behind, so ancient, that there still could be some loopholes which can protect these assholes? Just take them behind the sauna and put a bullet in their forehead, as we say here in Finland.

01-31-2001, 11:32 AM	#10
MrCockTale Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 669	cheating who!? A fucking CP-lover? I DON'T CARE So you're saying thehun is cheating everyone using his trademark!? (check out this code on his page) <script> //* preloading stuff off someone that is violating a trademark and is copying my links. var c=new Image(); c.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/index.htm"; var d=new Image(); d.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/j4f.gif"; var e=new Image(); e.src="http://www.crazyhun.com/join4free.jpg"; </script>

01-31-2001, 11:35 AM	#13
birdy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: new castle, pa., u.s.a. Posts: 23	I totally agree with you also Tam. I have a boy and a girl of my own and that kind of stuf makes me sick. The thing is if no one went to those sites they wouldn't be up. Any time you see something listed on a top list that indicates child porn they get more traffic than anyone. I really dont get why that is. Sure there are a lot of perverts out there but are there realy that many? Or what? If not why does your average porn lover visit these places? Just to see weahter or not is for real. In any case in all comes down to demand and supply. If they made no money they wouldnt be in business. I like the idea of linking to their images.

01-31-2001, 12:00 PM	#14
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	The probably get more traffic from the curious wanting to see if they actually have cp there and maybe what the fuss is all about. Has anyone turned to Helmy for some help with this? He has a pert good track record from what I have read and seen. I know he shut some egroups down awhile back that had pics (stolen naturally) that the girls looked about 13. And I can of agree with the linux attack if all else fails. lol And burn their bandwidth all you can. Let em get hit with a 30,000 BW bill for a month and see how fast they disappear! Maybe if more of us did the BW way we could shut them down quicker! (Need help here, I know how to hotlink but no clue how to increase their BW bills. lol)

01-31-2001, 12:06 PM	#15
Tam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,486	Well I have turned them in to everyone I know to turn them in to and it's all the same, artistic loopholes.......... these asses even have a huge webmaster sponsor program with about 4 other young girls sites listed on it........ and I don't know how to do all that exploit shit..... I am such a dumbass when it comes to all that shit... AND I don't have enough traffic to eat up my own bandwidth bill, much less theirs. Tam

01-31-2001, 12:39 PM	#16
Fucker Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 298	MrCockTable- I could see how that would be cool to run up their server bill, but think about this. if your hotlinking kp images then 1 pixel or not, your using kp on your site also! dont think thats such a good idea!

01-31-2001, 12:41 PM	#17
MrCockTale Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 669	ofcourse I will not hotlink CP pics Just other pics on the site

01-31-2001, 01:03 PM	#18
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Hmmmm the other pics and graphics sound like a plan... but isn't there a way to also load the other pics in a black out or invisible way? At one pixel per image and enough webmasters doing it to them then their BW would skyrocket!

01-31-2001, 01:14 PM	#19
Fucker Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 298	even at one pixel it still has to load the entire image on the browser... you just dont see it. (tiny speck) like my counters!!!!