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Old 05-30-2004, 01:23 PM   #1
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Do you think being real puts a stop to success in adult?

I think we can all agree that there is a lot of bullshit that goes on in this industry, justifiable or not.

Do you think being real about who you are, what you observe and what you say prevents people on a general level from certain levels of success?

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Old 05-30-2004, 01:24 PM   #2
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Greed, plain and simple.

Fucking other people over for small sums of money and trying to scam them out of it.
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:24 PM   #3
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:28 PM   #4
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Do you think being real about who you are, what you observe and what you say prevents people on a general level from certain levels of success?

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No. However we will have to wait until people are actually real about all that stuff.
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:30 PM   #5
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Nope. It just means you will be more trusted, probably wind up doing business with better people, and will be happier. I'm not what anyone here would call wildly successful though so maybe I'm talking out of my idealistic ass.
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:32 PM   #6
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I think we can all agree that there is a lot of bullshit that goes on in this industry, justifiable or not.

Do you think being real about who you are, what you observe and what you say prevents people on a general level from certain levels of success?

Discuss...
as long as you're real to yourself, thats all that matters
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:35 PM   #7
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as long as you're real to yourself, thats all that matters
true that man, everyone has a "fake" side to them on here of course if you met the webmasters in person it would be a totally diff situation this is more of a laid back atmosphere anything goes type deal ... just the way it seems
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:57 PM   #8
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I work in this business because my health doesn't allow me too many options: none where the money is so easy. But I'm like a fish out of water and because of that, although I have earned reasonable money, not near as much as I have earned in the past.

First off, even way back when I was collecting debts with a baseball bat, I went to work in a suit and tie. I very rarely use bad language and even if I dislike someone or think him a fool, I am usually courteous. I have principles, particularly about things like honesty and loyalty, that I will not sacrifice even when it costs me money.

That's who I am and I wouldn't be comfortable any other way. I also dislike hero worship - IMO no one is better than the NEXT thing they do - and I can't stand bullshit. There is a huge amount of both in this business.

So I don't network and I'm under no illusions about what that costs me. If that weren't enough, the appeal of porn is a mystery to me. I enjoy women in the flesh, but what a picture is supposed to do for me I never figured out. I doubt until I got into this game that I had so much as opened a copy of Playboy since I was a teenager visiting my barber. So it's the first time in my life I ever tried to sell something I wasn't a customer for.

I think you could safely say all that prevents me from achieving more than a certain success
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Old 05-30-2004, 02:33 PM   #9
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I work in this business because my health doesn't allow me too many options: none where the money is so easy. But I'm like a fish out of water and because of that, although I have earned reasonable money, not near as much as I have earned in the past.

First off, even way back when I was collecting debts with a baseball bat, I went to work in a suit and tie. I very rarely use bad language and even if I dislike someone or think him a fool, I am usually courteous. I have principles, particularly about things like honesty and loyalty, that I will not sacrifice even when it costs me money.

That's who I am and I wouldn't be comfortable any other way. I also dislike hero worship - IMO no one is better than the NEXT thing they do - and I can't stand bullshit. There is a huge amount of both in this business.

So I don't network and I'm under no illusions about what that costs me. If that weren't enough, the appeal of porn is a mystery to me. I enjoy women in the flesh, but what a picture is supposed to do for me I never figured out. I doubt until I got into this game that I had so much as opened a copy of Playboy since I was a teenager visiting my barber. So it's the first time in my life I ever tried to sell something I wasn't a customer for.

I think you could safely say all that prevents me from achieving more than a certain success
VERY nicely said. somethings money just shouldnt be able to buy.
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Old 05-30-2004, 02:37 PM   #10
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I work in this business because my health doesn't allow me too many options: none where the money is so easy. But I'm like a fish out of water and because of that, although I have earned reasonable money, not near as much as I have earned in the past.

First off, even way back when I was collecting debts with a baseball bat, I went to work in a suit and tie. I very rarely use bad language and even if I dislike someone or think him a fool, I am usually courteous. I have principles, particularly about things like honesty and loyalty, that I will not sacrifice even when it costs me money.

That's who I am and I wouldn't be comfortable any other way. I also dislike hero worship - IMO no one is better than the NEXT thing they do - and I can't stand bullshit. There is a huge amount of both in this business.

So I don't network and I'm under no illusions about what that costs me. If that weren't enough, the appeal of porn is a mystery to me. I enjoy women in the flesh, but what a picture is supposed to do for me I never figured out. I doubt until I got into this game that I had so much as opened a copy of Playboy since I was a teenager visiting my barber. So it's the first time in my life I ever tried to sell something I wasn't a customer for.

I think you could safely say all that prevents me from achieving more than a certain success
I agree and relate 100% on all levels except for the first sentence.

Maybe you and I should talk.
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