[Sleazydream 1 day Gallery Spot Test] Step #1 : Looking for the best gallery designer - GoFuckYourself.com

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 07:56 PM

Allright,

I am ready to test a gallery spot on http://www.sleazydream.com

The # 1 text link sells for $300.00 per day

In case you don't remember what this is all about. Read the following thread :

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=278112

Step # 1

I need the best gallery designer. Why? Well, because if the test is a complete disaster, people won't blame the fact that my gallery sucked.

It's only one TGP gallery design for 24 hours. I'll give you 12 to 15 pictures and we will talk about the design and feel of the paysite I want to promote.

I'm going to use my best sponsor.

I convert 1:69 on SE traffic with that sponsor.

If Sleazydream can make 100 signups a day on Sleazydream.com like he is saying. I'm pretty sure I'll reach at least 30 signups. Or at least 10? To cover my cost. What do you think?

Ok, here's the deal. Who's the best gallery designer here and why? You'll get visibility and free "publicity" once I put the results online.

Give me your details and we will talk.

Thanks everyone!

Regards.

jact · 05-13-2004, 07:57 PM

I'll be paying close attention to this, been thinking about buying spots from him for some time.

Morgan · 05-13-2004, 07:58 PM

bookmarking for the results

Abyss_Vee · 05-13-2004, 07:58 PM

good stuff

Abyss_Vee · 05-13-2004, 07:59 PM

Post Before and after stats to the sponsor too

Tuna · 05-13-2004, 07:59 PM

good deal. id like to see the results too

KMR Stitch · 05-13-2004, 08:01 PM

What sponser?

What are you getting sales for?

:-)

Paparazzi · 05-13-2004, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
bookmarking for the results

same here

Fletch XXX · 05-13-2004, 08:03 PM

im wrapping up a huge order for a program launching some hot new shit.

quite tied up, otherwise id spam myself.
cheers though.

riosluts · 05-13-2004, 08:04 PM

umm which is the first link exactly. is it the first thumb in the top left hand corner.

May 13 - 12 pics
Incredible Ass

MrIzzz · 05-13-2004, 08:06 PM

eroswebmaster

da best

stealthisgallery.com

beemk · 05-13-2004, 08:16 PM

im interested to see the results

nathan_f · 05-13-2004, 08:19 PM

wonder how many credit cards sleazy is signing up for today..

good luck with your test

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
im wrapping up a huge order for a program launching some hot new shit.

quite tied up, otherwise id spam myself.
cheers though.

Damn, that would've been nice!

Have fun with your "program launching".

Cheers!

Well, designers, here's your chance to "spam" your TGP gallery design skills!

Don't worry. This is going to be positive for everyone.

cosis · 05-13-2004, 08:20 PM

this is gonna be good - I am estimating 15 sales

Babaganoosh · 05-13-2004, 08:27 PM

Contact Tootie. I had her build a couple of galleries for me and they are still making sales. I have never had galleries convert as well as they have. I guarantee that I can make more than $300 from a top listing on sleazydream with one of her galleries.

Rictor · 05-13-2004, 08:32 PM

This should be interesting.

xxxdesign-net · 05-13-2004, 08:36 PM

I dont get that "test"... Sleazydream, like other TGPs will do good with some gals and not so good with others... What do you want to prove? Whether you do good or not will actually prove nothing...

As for his 100 sales a day.... well.. Im guessing that its with more than one gal...

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
I dont get that "test"... Sleazydream, like other TGPs will do good with some gals and not so good with others... What do you want to prove? Whether you do good or not will actually prove nothing...

As for his 100 sales a day.... well.. Im guessing that its with more than one gal...

Sleazydream agreed about that test.

I know I won't get 100 signups with my gallery.

I want to test a gallery designed by a professional. A sponsor that do extremely well on search engine traffic.

If it fails or if it's a success. People are mature enough to do their own conclusion. If you think this is useless, just read another thread. Thanks!

Theo · 05-13-2004, 08:46 PM

a movie gallery will have a better luck

Fletch XXX · 05-13-2004, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Damn, that would've been nice!

Have fun with your "program launching".

Cheers!

Well, designers, here's your chance to "spam" your TGP gallery design skills!

Don't worry. This is going to be positive for everyone.

no, im not launching a porgram.

I am assisting in a huge order for a hot new program, I HAVE to fullfill my obligations before I can take on new work.

Aint nuthing but a Hawg thang baby.

Brat · 05-13-2004, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
im wrapping up a huge order for a program launching some hot new shit.

quite tied up, otherwise id spam myself.
cheers though.

that's a shame. i was going to recommend you

blueboy · 05-13-2004, 09:20 PM

Why not hold a contest and have the GFY board vote for the best one?

05-13-2004, 09:23 PM

Interesting thread and "test". I'm definitly interested in seeing the results.

Oracle Porn · 05-13-2004, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Sleazydream agreed about that test.

I know I won't get 100 signups with my gallery.

I want to test a gallery designed by a professional. A sponsor that do extremely well on search engine traffic.

If it fails or if it's a success. People are mature enough to do their own conclusion. If you think this is useless, just read another thread. Thanks!

Why the hell would you think that a sponsor that does good with SE traffic would do good with TGP traffic?

Va2k · 05-13-2004, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Allright,

I am ready to test a gallery spot on http://www.sleazydream.com

The # 1 text link sells for $300.00 per day

In case you don't remember what this is all about. Read the following thread :

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=278112

Step # 1

I need the best gallery designer. Why? Well, because if the test is a complete disaster, people won't blame the fact that my gallery sucked.

It's only one TGP gallery design for 24 hours. I'll give you 12 to 15 pictures and we will talk about the design and feel of the paysite I want to promote.

I'm going to use my best sponsor.

I convert 1:69 on SE traffic with that sponsor.

If Sleazydream can make 100 signups a day on Sleazydream.com like he is saying. I'm pretty sure I'll reach at least 30 signups. Or at least 10? To cover my cost. What do you think?

Ok, here's the deal. Who's the best gallery designer here and why? You'll get visibility and free "publicity" once I put the results online.

Give me your details and we will talk.

Thanks everyone!

Regards.

Hey Ill do your gallery for free, to prove how well my galleries do, and to prove how well sleazy site does sell. Hit me up [email protected] or icq me tomorrow 102112

TOM

SleazyDream · 05-13-2004, 09:54 PM

actually i know of galleries that have done over 130 sales.
and other that sold nothing.

i'm game for your test, i got nothig to hide.

but understand that the idea that just cause you get a certain ratio in one place doesn't mean you'll get it somewhere else. I may do better or worse than other traffic sources, wording this the way you are isn't exacly fair and anyone with a brain would agree.

just cause you got a hot company and a cool designer doesn't guarnetee sales. it might take off - it might suck, it may do ok, such is the nature of tgp and why some people CAN make money in it and others CAN'T.
My pre-paid revenue isn't even 1/3 of my total revenue sources.

SleazyDream · 05-13-2004, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
Why the hell would you think that a sponsor that does good with SE traffic would do good with TGP traffic?

cause he's an idiot. but we'll play along anyway

SleazyDream · 05-13-2004, 10:01 PM

i would like the ability to make a prediction on sales of the gallery before hand if possible....BY looking at the gallery. I have a BIT of a clue as to what works and doesn't work on my site

if that's allowed....

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
actually i know of galleries that have done over 130 sales.
and other that sold nothing.

i'm game for your test, i got nothig to hide.

but understand that the idea that just cause you get a certain ratio in one place doesn't mean you'll get it somewhere else. I may do better or worse than other traffic sources, wording this the way you are isn't exacly fair and anyone with a brain would agree.

just cause you got a hot company and a cool designer doesn't guarnetee sales. it might take off - it might suck, it may do ok, such is the nature of tgp and why some people CAN make money in it and others CAN'T.
My pre-paid revenue isn't even 1/3 of my total revenue sources.

Everyone on this board already know those facts.

Everyone on this board who might want to buy a gallery spot from you, will also understand those facts.

That's exactly why I want to do this test. I want to be the newbie who want to give it a try.

Doesn't matter if I get good or bad results. Everyone on GFY will be able to draw their own conclusion.

I might get 1:30000000000000 from your TGP instead of my 1:69 ratio. That's not what I want to prove.

Hire a designer.

Buy a gallery spot.

See the results.

Nothing else, nothing more.

Thanks for letting me do this. I appreciate it Scott!

jmarzlak · 05-13-2004, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
im interested to see the results

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
cause he's an idiot. but we'll play along anyway

I'm the idiot because I think YOUR gallery spot might be successful? LOL!

Now you're telling me it might be a disaster? WTF?

Don't shit in your pants already. You should be positive about this test. Don't u think?

Your mission should be to help people. Not insulting them. Unless that's how you think business works.

If I was selling gallery spots, I'd help people so they'd come back and buy some more.

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
i would like the ability to make a prediction on sales of the gallery before hand if possible....BY looking at the gallery. I have a BIT of a clue as to what works and doesn't work on my site

if that's allowed....

Do you do that with everyone who buys a gallery spot?

You give them advice?

"Hey man, do another gallery, it's not good enough and you might lose your 300$?"

Come on.. I don't think so..

No, I won't show you the gallery before. We'll do exactly how you do with everyone else.

I'm not going to use my nickname.

You'll see the results like everyone else in real time.

Thanks.

SleazyDream · 05-13-2004, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Do you do that with everyone who buys a gallery spot?

You give them advice?

"Hey man, do another gallery, it's not good enough and you might lose your 300$?"

Come on.. I don't think so..

No, I won't show you the gallery before. We'll do exactly how you do with everyone else.

Thanks.

i offer my comments on anyone's galleries that ask - i make no guarentees on preformance though. I just wana let you know before hand if i think it'll do well or not, but if you think you're smarter than I am and want to go blind then go blind - don't say i didn't offer.

if i endorse something wouldn't it be even worse for me if it fails?

Sly_RJ · 05-13-2004, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Do you do that with everyone who buys a gallery spot?

You give them advice?

"Hey man, do another gallery, it's not good enough and you might lose your 300$?"

Come on.. I don't think so..

No, I won't show you the gallery before. We'll do exactly how you do with everyone else.

I'm not going to use my nickname.

You'll see the results like everyone else in real time.

Thanks.

Actually, just last week he sent me an ICQ offering suggestions on a gallery that he thought was mine. Guess what, it wasn't my gallery but I thought that was a pretty nice gesture.

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
i offer my comments on anyone's galleries that ask - i make no guarentees on preformance though. I just wana let you know before hand if i think it'll do well or not, but if you think you're smarter than I am and want to go blind then go blind - don't say i didn't offer.

So.. Now you're willing to help me out?!

I asked you to show me a sucessful gallery in the other thread and you never replied. Look, if you want to help me out. I don't mind.

That will be positive for me, for you and everyone else on this board who want to make money. And ever better, buy gallery spots from sleazydream.com

But hey, now I'm an idiot because I want to try that test.

Seriously man, what kind of business man treat their customers that way? Oh yeah.. you..

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Actually, just last week he sent me an ICQ offering suggestions on a gallery that he thought was mine. Guess what, it wasn't my gallery but I thought that was a pretty nice gesture.

That's really nice from him! You think he does the same thing will all his clients? I mean.. everyone?

I'm not judging anyone. If he does that with everyone, that's fucking great! But If he really did that with everyone. I really find it strange that he asked me to show the gallery before..

Unless I am the exception to his rule.

SleazyDream · 05-13-2004, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
So.. Now you're willing to help me out?!

I asked you to show me a sucessful gallery in the other thread and you never replied. Look, if you want to help me out. I don't mind.

That will be positive for me, for you and everyone else on this board who want to make money. And ever better, buy gallery spots from sleazydream.com

But hey, now I'm an idiot because I want to try that test.

Seriously man, what kind of business man treat their customers that way? Oh yeah.. you..

don't put words in my mouth. re-read what i said

Pipecrew · 05-13-2004, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier

Seriously man, what kind of business man treat their customers that way? Oh yeah.. you..

You'd be surprised to learn that people who buy gallery spots usually have bigger ego's then the people who own the sites.. You get jaded after a little while, and look at the thread you created, I wouldnt even sell to you if you made one like this about my site.

Sly_RJ · 05-13-2004, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
That's really nice from him! You think he does the same thing will all his clients? I mean.. everyone?

No. He just offered to help me because he wants to sleep with me in San Diego. He was very disappointed to find out that it wasn't my gallery. Guess he'll need to find another way to get into my pants!

SleazyDream · 05-13-2004, 10:30 PM

there's a lot that can make a gallery go wrong - bad hosting, poor sponsers, burnt out content, off my niche content, etc.

not every gallery makes money.

i would like be able to agree before hand on those kind of things as i have a clue about them before you do the test if you're going to base my reputation on it.

think about it like this - if it fails you can say i thought it would make money

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
don't put words in my mouth. re-read what i said

I don't see why you see this test a threat. It's not. You were very positive in the other thread.

I feel that you're not comfortable now. Am I right or not?

You should be thanking me, you're gonna get even more quote requests for your TGP. No matter what the results are.

SleazyDream · 05-13-2004, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
I don't see why you see this test a threat. It's not. You were very positive in the other thread.

I feel that you're not comfortable now. Am I right or not?

You should be thanking me, you're gonna get even more quote requests for your TGP. No matter what the results are.

i'm not comfortable if you use like-whoa hosting and PIB cash if that's what your asking

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
You'd be surprised to learn that people who buy gallery spots usually have bigger ego's then the people who own the sites.. You get jaded after a little while, and look at the thread you created, I wouldnt even sell to you if you made one like this about my site.

Well, it's not your site and Sleazy is a nice guy. He agreed to do the test.

But thanks for your comments.

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
i'm not comfortable if you use like-whoa hosting and PIB cash if that's what your asking

I don't get it. So when someone is using a host you don't like, or a sponsor you don't like, you simply refuse their request?

I'm not suicidal, I won't use PIBcash lol!

Pipecrew · 05-13-2004, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Well, it's not your site and Sleazy is a nice guy. He agreed to do the test.

But thanks for your comments.

To be Fair, create a new account at your sponsor and post the results 1 week after the listing is over... It's been my experience from purchased spots that sales come days after listings expire (hahahahahaha tracking) or show up in the "no referrer" columns. This way you will get a legitimate number that can only come from his listing.

Sly_RJ · 05-13-2004, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
I don't get it. So when someone is using a host you don't like, or a sponsor you don't like, you simply refuse their request?

Surely you're not really this dense...

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Surely you're not really this dense...

I was being sarcastic.. Geez..

Do I really need to put smilies to be understood?

Everybody knows that PIBcash and Whoa! Where simply horrible..

Sly_RJ · 05-13-2004, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
I was being sarcastic.. Geez..

Do I really need to put smilies to be understood?

Everybody knows that PIBcash and Whoa! Where simply horrible..

It's getting late man.

I'm still trying to catch up from the sleep lost in ATL.

NoCarrier · 05-13-2004, 10:43 PM

Allright.. So far I have va2k (Tom) and Tootie as suggestions.

Anyone else?

05-13-2004, 07:57 PM	#2
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	I'll be paying close attention to this, been thinking about buying spots from him for some time. __________________ Free agent

05-13-2004, 07:58 PM	#3
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05-13-2004, 07:59 PM	#6
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05-13-2004, 08:03 PM	#9
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05-13-2004, 08:04 PM	#10
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05-13-2004, 07:56 PM	#1
NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	[Sleazydream 1 day Gallery Spot Test] Step #1 : Looking for the best gallery designer Allright, I am ready to test a gallery spot on http://www.sleazydream.com The # 1 text link sells for $300.00 per day In case you don't remember what this is all about. Read the following thread : http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=278112 Step # 1 I need the best gallery designer. Why? Well, because if the test is a complete disaster, people won't blame the fact that my gallery sucked. It's only one TGP gallery design for 24 hours. I'll give you 12 to 15 pictures and we will talk about the design and feel of the paysite I want to promote. I'm going to use my best sponsor. I convert 1:69 on SE traffic with that sponsor. If Sleazydream can make 100 signups a day on Sleazydream.com like he is saying. I'm pretty sure I'll reach at least 30 signups. Or at least 10? To cover my cost. What do you think? Ok, here's the deal. Who's the best gallery designer here and why? You'll get visibility and free "publicity" once I put the results online. Give me your details and we will talk. Thanks everyone! Regards. __________________ Last edited by NoCarrier; 05-13-2004 at 07:58 PM..

05-13-2004, 07:58 PM	#4
Abyss_Vee Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,208	good stuff

05-13-2004, 08:01 PM	#7
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	What sponser? What are you getting sales for? :-)

05-13-2004, 08:06 PM	#11
MrIzzz If u touch it, I will cum Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: long island Posts: 22,923	eroswebmaster da best stealthisgallery.com __________________ WHO WANTS TO PLAY GRAB-ASS?

05-13-2004, 08:16 PM	#12
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	im interested to see the results __________________ I host with Vacares

05-13-2004, 08:19 PM	#13
nathan_f Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Think of me as Chomsky with dick jokes. Posts: 3,983	wonder how many credit cards sleazy is signing up for today.. good luck with your test

05-13-2004, 08:20 PM	#15
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,281	this is gonna be good - I am estimating 15 sales

05-13-2004, 08:27 PM	#16
Babaganoosh ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: /home Posts: 15,841	Contact Tootie. I had her build a couple of galleries for me and they are still making sales. I have never had galleries convert as well as they have. I guarantee that I can make more than $300 from a top listing on sleazydream with one of her galleries. __________________ I like pie.

05-13-2004, 08:32 PM	#17
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	This should be interesting.

05-13-2004, 08:36 PM	#18
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	I dont get that "test"... Sleazydream, like other TGPs will do good with some gals and not so good with others... What do you want to prove? Whether you do good or not will actually prove nothing... As for his 100 sales a day.... well.. Im guessing that its with more than one gal...

05-13-2004, 08:46 PM	#20
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	a movie gallery will have a better luck

05-13-2004, 09:20 PM	#23
blueboy Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 163	Why not hold a contest and have the GFY board vote for the best one? __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

05-13-2004, 09:23 PM	#24
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Interesting thread and "test". I'm definitly interested in seeing the results.

05-13-2004, 09:54 PM	#27
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	actually i know of galleries that have done over 130 sales. and other that sold nothing. i'm game for your test, i got nothig to hide. but understand that the idea that just cause you get a certain ratio in one place doesn't mean you'll get it somewhere else. I may do better or worse than other traffic sources, wording this the way you are isn't exacly fair and anyone with a brain would agree. just cause you got a hot company and a cool designer doesn't guarnetee sales. it might take off - it might suck, it may do ok, such is the nature of tgp and why some people CAN make money in it and others CAN'T. My pre-paid revenue isn't even 1/3 of my total revenue sources. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

05-13-2004, 10:01 PM	#29
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	i would like the ability to make a prediction on sales of the gallery before hand if possible....BY looking at the gallery. I have a BIT of a clue as to what works and doesn't work on my site if that's allowed.... __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

05-13-2004, 10:30 PM	#41
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	there's a lot that can make a gallery go wrong - bad hosting, poor sponsers, burnt out content, off my niche content, etc. not every gallery makes money. i would like be able to agree before hand on those kind of things as i have a clue about them before you do the test if you're going to base my reputation on it. think about it like this - if it fails you can say i thought it would make money __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog. Last edited by SleazyDream; 05-13-2004 at 10:31 PM..

05-13-2004, 10:43 PM	#50
NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	Allright.. So far I have va2k (Tom) and Tootie as suggestions. Anyone else? __________________