KRL, while what you say is true, what can be said about getting a bird's eye-view on the situation and observing the double standard?

Sleazy is an alright guy, never had any beef with him myself, nor have I done business with him. But we all have to be realistic about situations like this; Sleazy's ego-driven posts, whether they're serious or just playing with people's minds - will make him a personal target for someone who is'nt used to it or has a bone to pick with anyone out of desperation or jealousy.

For anyone to demand instant respect just because they have been on the board longer, or are more successful does'nt fly with most people, especially in adult.

Respect comes to those who deserve and earn it. Not those who demand it.

KRL, I admire your success, but I don't respect it. Why? Because I know nothing of your methods or your tribulations. If we met at a gathering and you were a jerk to me, I would'nt give two shits about how successful you are or how much I can learn from you at that point, the respect factor is out the window.

Many people are in this business because they don't like being treated like shit by the upper class, and have taken things into their own hands to create something on their own. This is quite commendable on any level.

Unfortunately, 9 out of 10 won't last in this industry, and you have to look at it from a newbie's perspective: GFY is perceptively a beacon to the adult community. Some newbies see the only way to fit in is to play the game as they see it played. Longevity and success have little to do with what the average new poster takes into account when he sees the flames and the drama, especially when it's pointed at him.

Just my :2 cents:

this is only Sleazy's fault.

few people know Sleazy in real life, and by the way he acts on GFY (constanly insulting everyone), one would be correct to assume him a loser and an idiot.

maybe i should do that, haven't put anyone on ignore since i got here, but the majority of people with an ars sig who registered recently post nothing but garbage.

amen brotha

Maybe the problem is that many of these "bright, successful and wealthy guys" set the example with their own bashing, hate, idiotic statements, childlike bullshit, etc?

You apparently took offense at someone having a poke at Sleazy. Well isn't he a good example? However successful he may or may not be, he uses this place like a playground (it's hard to see it as a marketing ploy in his case, since he doesn't appear to be trying to sell anything except his own legend). Newbies are far from being the only people on here who sink to name calling without having the first idea about the people they are insulting.

And let's face it, this board is called GFY. That surely suggests the audience and style that Lensman was aiming for. Okay, so there is the occasional nugget among all the spam, misdirection, half-assed humor and fake drama (I come here because a lot of sponsors don't seem to have heard of email as a way of announcing new programs and sites). Then again, nothing is all bad.

good post.

Look at the post count of Fletch, KRl, sleazy, aaron, quiet and yourself.
Post count is not a good argument.

it's nice to see someone who's not bandwagoning.....:glugglug

ageed.

i check this board for business mostly, occasionally while i'm waiting on programs to do their work in the background, or i'm using my BW for uploading.

this board is about 80% kid stuff, but there are some VERY smart business people here, and some VERY smart tech people here, so the visits are usually worthwhile.

Best post of the day, thank you! :thumbsup

it is a marketing ploy, his threads generate a shitload of views which in turn makes his sig sponsors happy.

The average per day does not mean that he posts 27.29 posts per day. He could go several days...a week...or more...then post alot on a single day...and this would bring his average up. Clueless as always.

I sometimes go several days without posting...sometimes I post when I am uploading...or downloading...sometimes I post while I am working on web pages...sometimes...when I do not feel like doing anything else...I post...and sometimes on these days I will post a number of posts.

Tsk. Tsk. You surely aren't calling Sleazy a sig whore :Graucho

Interesting.
I know my post count is in the high 5k range. I do the vast majority of my posting while I am uploading stuff to my servers. It really would not be hard no take up much work time to get in 30-40 posts a day if you are multi-tasking.
At same time weeding through the endless bullshit threads can be daunting. Some I read just for humor and to lighten the day, while others I either skip all together or try my best to avoid.
It does get to me that so damn many new users are ignoring the very basic rules here. Hell I am positive they have never even read them. I guess this would really fall onto the lack of having any real mods and the ICS staff for letting it go on.
To damn many newbies and sigwhores are pulling up way to much drama and calling out or starting shit with alot of people.
I await the day that the staff here comes in and does a massive clean up. Killing of multiple nic's and enforcing sig rules. Though I do not see this happening in the near future. I am pretty damn sure GFY treats these rules kind of like petty traffic violations, enforcement is highly uncommon.

And look at the number of replies it gets, start a thread off giving away a great offer on content ideal for webmasters and the response is not there anymore.

Start a thread off about nude pics of a girl, new female webmaster and it goes wild. But I think since the bottom dropped out of the sig market it's getting better.

I can't really say where I stand on this one. I like to come here to blow off steam and post a few pictures or read some jokes or see what Juicy is up to today or how great Sleazy thinks his glorious self is. :winkwink:

However, I also come here to watch and learn. NoCarrier's experiment with the TGP gallery is excellent, and I have been known to start business threads myself, now and then. They dont' get as many replies or views as I would like, but such is the nature of the beast.

I have tried posting in the Webmaster and Trade forums on GFY, but the responses are minimal to nothing. I wouldn't be adverse to moving all the business threads to them, IF they were going to get views and replies there, and leaving the Fuckign Around forum for just that purpose.

And yeah, I'd pay a small fee to be a member. Heck, I pay 10$ a year for Limewire. :) Just bring back the search!

Good post, Elli.

And I second the notion. Paying to be here would sure help roust out the sigwhores.

However, it wouldn't get rid of all of them, and the "deletion of multiple nicks" wouldn't get rid of all of them either.

Somewhere there has to be a solution. Something will have to give, and I'm not really sure where it's going to give. Perhaps if those of us who are serious about doing business actually went to a different GFY forum (Trades, Webmaster, etc.) to do our business and left Fucking Around for "fucking around", it'd help. I like how you think, Elli. :)

And for those who are screaming "Bandwagon", knock it off. A good point was made, (many here actually), and perhaps we should take it upon ourselves to find a solution to the problem if there's one to be had. :2 cents:

How I worked it out.

11,600 posts since Mar 2003
1 year 2 months = 425 days
11,600 devided by 425 = 27.29411 posts a day.
Reckoning that it takes 10 minutes reading, thinking and replying to a post gave me a figure of 272 minutes = 4.65 hours a day, every day.


SORRY I made a mistake in my calculations it's only 4.65 hours a day. Still a lot of time.

But if you run Maxpays why do you have Slickcash in your signature?

this is true, 1-2 years ago Sleazy was less of an "EGO" now he seems to be all about that and starts up way too many useless threads.

The respect he won he did a long time ago. If you came to this board recently would you respect him, if you were posting 50 posts a night, whoring your sig would you think he was the same as you?

How many newbies here know he runs anything in the Adult Internet?

100 stupid guys. :)

Look at the signatures of these guys. How many of them are here to promote their own companies and how many could be giving a newbie the impression they are here to sig whore, ego or pissing around?

How many of them would help a newbie out with some advice?

As I said aabove a newbie comes here not knowing what half these guys do.

Charly

You think just because I have a high post count means I have no money?

See in case you did not know Charly what I do let me clarify this to you:

From 7-8 am till about 2-3 pm I run my wholesale book business which has been established for about 3 yrs now. You want me to send you my books Charly I gaurantee my gross alone per month would exceed your gross money. Second Charly , my business has so much credit available that I spend in excess of xxxx amt of money for a trailer of books many times per month than your exclusive shoots.

Now onto porn. Charly i have been doing this for 3 yrs buddy. Rest assured I aint starving or will be anytime soon.

Your meantality "OMG they have high post counts they must be making no money " put it to rest.

Your old age must be getting your mind warped.


And btw Charly.... in the past if you were not so rude to a potential customer and partner of mine in regards to a purcahse of exclusive content we were looking at to get from you you would be have around another 10-15k in your pocket now , no worries plenty of you content guys around.

Wow it took you how long to work that out?

Now take a look at this guy, constantly telling us how great he is, shows no proof. Flames people, acts like an idiot and is not even in the business. If he's in any business.

Should we really blame it on Newbies or ourselves.

Good Point :thumbsup

I believe "Creative" is the person previously banned as "Pad". He is a 17 year old spammer and not to be taken seriously.

I never said because a guy has a high post count he does not have money. Well if U did show me.

As for being rude to your partnet, want me to post the ICQ chat here? I was not rude, unless you think getting a fair price for a product is being rude.

For others here, I was quoting $1500 for an exclusive boy girl set that they wanted to use on a tour. A boy girl set good enough on a tour is worth way over $1500 to us. Or should I just work for less than it's worth?

I can't remeber the price, remind me of what you did want to pay for it.

Charly your almost as 10k posts


WTF do you do ???loll

I sell content to those who know it's value. LOL

Charly listen,

I agree with you there are alot of trolls here...no doubt


Why does this get to you man? This is a message board

Yeh, he's in the 10K + club too.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Charly

Its not hard to rack up posts here on gfy.

I have it in the background during the day , when i am at home at night thats when i do my power posting and shit.....

If i spent 12 hrs per day on gfy i would have like 89,000 posts by now loll

hehehe

Plus keep in mind the first year or two i rarely posted also

Ok bottom line here is:

True alot of p/t dipshits here on GFY thats a given , alot of immature young fucks thats a given

Take the good withthe bad man...

I am lately trying to ignore the dipshits cause frankly they are getting on my nerves too loll

You said I was rude and I assumed it was becasue I would not shoot for less than it's value to us.

I've said many times, shooting custom is not for us. Your partner asked for a price I gave it to him, he said it was too high. I said I'm not coming down. $1500 is a good price for boy-girl, we have to pay good models $600 for a BG set. They don't do it any cheaper.

It's very easy to do it, in fact. :1orglaugh

Look at me.

:Graucho :Graucho

You need to power post more to hit 10k :Graucho

Well, in my case, I can barely ever take on more work. My sig is almost useless to me, other than the fact I can use it to get OTHER people more business. I cannot use more business as content sellers can, or affiliate programs.

I cant even take on more work, in fact, companies are now buying my time in 3-4 week intervals. I am a one man operation, I dont have employees and even if I did it wouldnt be the same because my service is based on MY WORK, and one man can only produce so much work.

So, my sig is of no use to me, why not offer it to someone who can use the business.

And in case you forgot, the title of this forum of the board is " Fucking Around & Program Discussion" i am ALWAYS fucking around when I am on this board.

:thumbsup

9377 over 730 days is 12.84 a day.

And as I said I have staff around me to program, shoot, put up content and make me cups of tea. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And I'm usually on the boards 8 hours 5 days a week.

As Lensman said when he was telling me off, I've earnt a lot of money from being on the boards and there's no way I'm selling it for a few thousand a month.

Thats bullshit.
On the same token I seen plenty of "Succesful webmasters" come on over here and kick up shit and belittle the newer folks...

Primary example of this would be Sleazy...

Personally I think Sleazy has brought alot of the hate on himself, he makes himself a target.

With posts about how much he got, what he gots, and demeaning posts with intrusion to threads with something like "Idiot" as a singular contribution to a thread.

Fuck em he deserved the shit, he reaped it.

KRL you rant about being professional and running things like a business with all the misfit ego's well take a good look at how some of the "Players"operate here they are no better than the broke fucks with exception of a few bucks.

So before pointing fingers at the people in this business making lunch money ya might wanna study the problems as to why there is no difference between a millionaire fuck wad and a broke fuckwad within the GFY ego showcase.

Whenever the search function comes back, it'll be way better to stick around longer - search the info we need - view others opinions, ideas on the matter - see the current 'rants & raves'.

If I have to go search google for old posts on GFY or hahahahahahahahahahahaha, or dig through the pile of pages of posts on GFY, then the message I'm getting is that this place is to be of no educational/commercial value to it's members, only to it's operators or mods.

Am I crazy to think this?

Charly i want to be your friend:Graucho