So true all I do here is trying to pick your guys brain..... But it is hard sometimes with all the bull there is here sometime :Graucho

agreed !

not everyone want's to /need's to become a Millionair or become
a fulltime webmaster !
what pisses me off is the lack of respect for (some) people here
people who work hard and are happy to share their knowledge
with other !
:glugglug

Yes they are being paid $0.50 a post by their banner owner.

I would say that the majority of the people who KTL is talking about are not really in business. I employed a guy to design and post TGPs for two months, the guy never stopped working. He definitely did not have time to post on message boards.

Look at the post count of these guys. WTF do they do to earn money?

Excellent post KRL!

It seems that the majority of the bashing that goes on happens between people who have similar business interests. Designers bashing designers comes to mind first. People don't seem to realize that when you bash someone you're not making the bashee look bad...you're making yourself look bad. Simple immaturity.

And for those who don't know, KRL is one of the big dogs...if he speaks, listen. You might learn something. And don't be jealous of Marc De...learn what you can from him...he's a brilliant business man.

I spend about 95% of my time here reading, learning. I only post when I feel like having a little fun. As with anything in life, have your ears open in the appropriate relation to your mouth...at least 2:1. Otherwise you're just not learning a damn thing.

:2 cents:

Awesome point, charly :thumbsup

That's true WG.

Right on.

Very good point, some of the newbies come here, see the posts by some guys with 5K or more and think it's acceptable behavour to act like a clown.

Already try todo that :)

Andre

I've got staff running around me working, so I can do the marketing and managing. In three years I'm stillnot at 10K, some of these bozzos hit that in under a year.

Thats a very intrested point of view here KRL. But i dont think anyone will listen to you. They all like to play around, spam with there ars sig or get $50 to put '' bdjuf ownz me '' in there sig. I think you or we cant help it anymore.

Just like Trax said, Its time to close the signup form :2 cents:

I hear ya...I am 2+ years and still under 700 posts. I WORK designing for a living. I post during lags in my schedule. Like now...I am slammed at AEBN but not doing much freelance work. I figured, hey, I wouldn't mind a little freelance work...so I post. Seems to always work out :winkwink:

PS...50 Stupid or Brain Dead Webmasters! (I have always wanted to do it, I finaly get to)

I'm at 11500 + posts in a little more then a year. But that doesnt mean i dont work or dont have a business at all. I like to post at GFY in my working hours, I just mix it up. Nothing wrong with that if you ask me.

:thumbsup

Nothing wrong with it at all. I wish I ran the sort of business that was more marketing & networking oriented so I could post a lot more and interact more with fellow webmasters. But, alas...I am a mere pixel jockey :(

LOL

Yeah its quite fun if you ask me. Allthough having some pixel skillz would be damn awesome aswell ! Is that design company in your sig yours?

Hey Reak...yes. I am a one-man operation. I no longer freelance full time as I am in-house with AEBN now. But I still freelance :winkwink:

I AM HERE TO LEARN. PLEASE LET THE LESSONS BEGIN.

from what I've seen Creative is 2 or 3 short of a six Pack, Sleazy should consider the source.

fucking kid

Thats 27.29 posts for everyday since the day you joined, assuming each post take you 10 minutes to read the thread, think about a reply and write it you are spending nearly 6 hours a day on GFY. And 10 minutes is fast if you include reading a thread.

So like I said, WTF do you do for a job?

i think some people just plain dont care

these days the world is 99% apathetic

sometimes im guilty of it as well

Once upon a time...Long long ago...In a far away place... I heard this used to happen.

When i joined up to GFY it was nothing like what it is today, a sig whore machine. The masses outweight the few.

It looks like more and more people are just coming here to "fuck around".

True, true...

The board has tons of usefull infomation posted everyday, but not everyone is willing to add thier point of views.

I think that post should have the option of being rated by the community and we should have the option to rate users based on thier contribution to the boards and only give them access to post at which the qualify to access.

Just my :2 cents:

Someone needs to take a chill pill and stop telling other people what to do (KRL)

And, with a post saying people just bitch on here and that we're wasting our time ?

If I'm not very much mistaken, KRL's bitching about everyone else, the hypocrite.

Sort out your own life before ours KRL

It'd be alot easier if there was a search function. I could ignore the idiots if I could only research the stuff i needed to get!

:thumbsup Great Advice , the board is sucking pretty bad lately with or without a search feature

there is a lot of good to be done here, just ignore the bullshit. simple as that.

I know I will, and have.

KRL is worth listening to, no matter the topic.

Sleazy brings this on himself. He has on many occasions called people idiots, morons, get a life, etc etc. I realize that most of that bravado is an act to get views, but you can't light the beacon of controversy and not attact a fair percentage of immaturity and stupidity.

Unfortunately being stupid and immature is not against the rules of GFY.

How do you keep a community clean? You just make it hard to get in, and easy to get kicked out.

But thats not the philosophy of GFY, and it's not meant to be.

Is this good or bad, you decide.

I really like GFY, but I have a feeling that most respectable people are still here just because there isn't really an alternative cleaner place to hang out.

Whoever starts a new board, they quickly let it get dilluted with idiots by offering prizes, allowing paid sigs etc.

Maybe it's just impossible to create a non-profit, professionals-only or invite-only community and still be able to keep it alive and going. I have a feeling that's not gonna happen for a while.

Most programming communities have my respect. Let it be a message board or a usenet group, they're always intolerant of idiots, which I really like about them. People ask for help all the time, and they receive it just out of others good will.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, understand what GFY is meant to be, and just accept it that way.

:1orglaugh , i never seen KRL like this.....

edit-but then again this is GFY, so the idiots posting is the way of life here

Btw, it must be painful to read gfy if you're not making use of your ignore list feature.

I put anyone registered in 2004 using an ARS sig to my ignore list.
It's kinda annoying to see "Blabla is on your ignore list, click here to read this post" all the time, but its much better than reading their actual posts.

double edit- so you saying only if you're 'successful' you can insult someone, i didn't read his thread and it's an opition here to read or not to read any thread possible...so my motto is to each it's own, no sweat off my balls

6 Hours ? How did you calculated that ? I think i'm 2 - 2,5 hours a day at GFY. And i run paysites ( checkout Maxpays.com ) Also i'm working at a Reality paysite ( to launch in 3 to 4 weeks from now )

Also i run some live streams at Winamp ( which take me about 5 to 10 min to update each day )

I hope that answers your question :)

Last night I posted about the same thing but in different words. and all I got was people that like watching the drama. No one takes this board as a Webmaster board man. its a fucking drama board now. should clean up the trash but nope. I hate it. I'm just not really serious on the board cause seems like no one else is. If I talk it might just put like 3/4 the people here in awe and not know a thing I said... well, it sucks but that is what happens when "people" don't take charge and ban stupid fucks.



"If you have nothing good to say, don't say it at all."

Resolve fights in person or on phone or some other way besides gfy :-\


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=304256

We are kind of to blame on that... I remember back in 1999 fewer boards, more RICH programs fewer part time webmasters. Yes there was some huge opportunist back then that have made it hard for us to continue doing good clean business but at least back then you knew who they where and had the choice to do business with them. Much more money was around and we saw it with Big Booths, Sponsors contest. Parties like the one Nat Net threw in Atlanta where all over the place.

Boards where fun and full of good people that where ready to help you when they saw you where understanding this industry, always where the occasional lurker but people ad more respect for each other. There was way less underage webmasters and Piss match where the real thing. Serge against Brad Shaw, Brad Shaw against the world (some things don't change)

I think the problem is with these high traffic boards WE MADE IT TO EASY to get in this Industry... Some guys out there said let's open some boards and teach the world on how to try to make money in porn... No matter who they are they just need an ID (real or not) and a monitor to hide behind.

How many sponsors out there check ID of affiliates? I can guarantee you because I know so; we are all paying kids under 18 to promote our programs... We are welcoming any Tom, Dick or Arriette into OUR business world and tell them sit back and read, then we show them how to open a paypal account and we?ll pay them to post. No matter how old just post I?ll paypal you $50 bucks.... word of mouth a kid finds out tells all his friends ... BAM here we go ARS all over the place.

Then they learn about galleries but too much work so they become spammers. Pretty easy known hosting company will give you a mail server for 160.00 a month. Then you get the mail software from a GFY?er and couple of list here and there. They tell you how to use proxies and damn you?re a kid and you making a few bucks.

I love this industry and it?s been part of my life for over 6 years. I think it?s time we open our eyes and see that we are killing it ourselves buy not respecting rule number 1

It?s the ADULT Industry.

Don?t get me wrong I know a couple of really young webmasters out there that have the right attitude but to be honest? They are RARE.

KRL has a valid point, though I don't believe the majority of those here who need to read this thread will read it.

I may not make much in the overall scheme of things, but I love my job, and to me, that's priceless. The money will come with time and trial, so I'm not really upset about being on the bottom of the totem pole at the moment. That will change. :)

What's really strange is that I do almost all of my business here at GFY, and have learned incredible things here. Too bad more newbs can't follow suit. :(

they won't change because they aren't businessmen. i bet a lot of them are underage.

hehehe