Ars champ VS deluxepass

[Doctor Dre]

Wich one you think is the best ?

I heard deluxepass shoots exclusive for you, while ars gives you a SHITLOAD of semi-exclusives (a whole dvd only used by 4 other sites) .

I dunno about the rest ... so please gimmie an update why I should use one or another.


Oh and ARS Sigwhores, please stay out cauz you probably don't even know how this fucking works so STFU

[Doctor Dre]

With ARS champ you only get 2.35 from other people promoting your site, but they get paid 30 $ per signup wich is really good compared to the recurring splitted already in half on DP .

[Veterans Day]

DP all the way. My experience with DP anyway

[strobi]

Try pornaccess too. Best of DP/ARS/pornaccess.

[twistyneck]

I would never trust ARS because they have a funny habit of changing and eliminating programs that their webmasters have put tons of work into.

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by twistyneck
I would never trust ARS because they have a funny habit of changing and eliminating programs that their webmasters have put tons of work into.

Look that happened once and they probably built the most structured program on the net after that . They should have warned everybody before allthought

[Veterans Day]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Look that happened once and they probably built the most structured program on the net after that . They should have warned everybody before allthought

1 time is all it takes when you got 1'000's upon 1'000's of links and gallerys and freesites. Sorry no second chance with that horseshit

[demented]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre


Oh and ARS Sigwhores, please stay out cauz you probably don't even know how this fucking works so STFU

So True

[twistyneck]

Originally posted by Veterans Day
1 time is all it takes when you got 1'000's upon 1'000's of links and gallerys and freesites. Sorry no second chance with that horseshit

This is exactly why I'd never build anything for ARS.

[Doctor Dre]

Ok ... I guess no 1 tried both

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by twistyneck
I would never trust ARS because they have a funny habit of changing and eliminating programs that their webmasters have put tons of work into.

imo it was a much needed change. takes a ton of balls to do what they did.

[doober]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre


I heard deluxepass shoots exclusive for you,

What were you smoking when you heard that?

[Pipecrew]

Originally posted by doober
What were you smoking when you heard that?

hahaha, i was wondering that too.

[body]

Deluxepass rocks, but they don't shoot exclusive content afaik!
Its dvd content everybody can buy at least the most of them!
And I like the 50/50 from DP more than 30 or 35 one time, because the rebills are great! With 100 sales I got 400 rebills, so looks like they stay for 4 month average = 60$/sale
And got everytime my money

But I didn't try ARSchamp so...
Just my

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by body
Deluxepass rocks, but they don't shoot exclusive content afaik!
Its dvd content everybody can buy at least the most of them!
And I like the 50/50 from DP more than 30 or 35 one time, because the rebills are great! With 100 sales I got 400 rebills, so looks like they stay for 4 month average = 60$/sale
And got everytime my money

But I didn't try ARSchamp so...
Just my

do they take forever to approve sites like adult bouncer?

[Pipecrew]

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
do they take forever to approve sites like adult bouncer?

No, clement will get you squared away quickly, he knows his shit.

[Veterans Day]

Clement is good people for sure, and the rebills kick ass

[submitter]

i am working on site for ProAdult S-Rvenue
pros>
you choose how mutch $ for webmasters and how mutch for you
rentention ratio is on 90%

----->
you must have your own content



i don't like on champ, that you can't make site in PHP
i have no experience with DP

[Doctor Dre]

Clement definitly kick some major ass ... Very nice guy

[jayeff]

I have 2 tours with ARS/CHAMP and IMO they have far the best webmaster setup of all these AVS/AEN sites: especially if you are hoping to have other webmasters promote your stuff. BUT...

So far the trickle of traffic other webmasters are sending to my sites is very disappointing. Obviously that could be something I'm doing wrong, but considering how many webmasters promoted GIM/BYOT, the lack of activity on the CHAMP board does suggest that a lot have jumped ship. Dropping a program weeks before a replacement is ready, isn't going to inspire much confidence.

And everything is so sssssllllllllloooooowwwwwww over there. Two months into the program and despite a lot of promises, there are niches with little or no content (though in fairness plenty are well served). Reviews, even of updates and promo material, take days.

You have to wonder just how commited anyone at ARS is to the program. One guy at Option Mind was off for a week and another for 2 days. The result was that all communication via the board stopped and reviews/updates slowed even more. That comes across more like a shoestring operation than one which has some serious clout behind it.

DeluxePass (Adult Bouncer and AdultsAllowed too) all have similar programs. The review process at Adult Bouncer has to have been designed by the grandfather of all bureaucrats. It is confusing, poorly documented, doesn't seem to progress without prodding, etc. AB is also very restrictive about using either their hosting or their content for promos. On all these counts DP and AA come out well ahead, although all three have plenty of content and make sales.

With those three, although webmasters can promote your sites/tours, this aspect of their programs seems like a kind of afterthought. The facility exists and that's about it: you are basically on your own if you want to make use of it.

As someone else said, PornAccess has maybe the best all-round program of this type at present. The setup instructions are a bit vague, but the system is simple enough and they have Mon-Fri ICQ contact to talk you through. Everything moves very quickly and they at least have the bare bones of a central area for promoting your sites to other webmasters. Improvements to that are on the way and sales-wise, so far PA seems fine.

Then there is Jans Webring. Right now it is self-promo only (although that is supposed to change in a few weeks). The review process was easy, though slow (I was told "server maintenance" was going on every time I asked about delays). The available content was also very generic, although plentiful. Quite a few large TGPs promote Jans and my experience with them is extremely limited, so time will tell.

CHAMP may still turn out well, but so far I'm not optimistic. If I had to choose one program right now, it would be PornAccess.

[jdog31]

ars has been putting money in my pockets for years

[Veterans Day]

Originally posted by jayeff
I have 2 tours with ARS/CHAMP and IMO they have far the best webmaster setup of all these AVS/AEN sites: especially if you are hoping to have other webmasters promote your stuff. BUT...

So far the trickle of traffic other webmasters are sending to my sites is very disappointing. Obviously that could be something I'm doing wrong, but considering how many webmasters promoted GIM/BYOT, the lack of activity on the CHAMP board does suggest that a lot have jumped ship. Dropping a program weeks before a replacement is ready, isn't going to inspire much confidence.

And everything is so sssssllllllllloooooowwwwwww over there. Two months into the program and despite a lot of promises, there are niches with little or no content (though in fairness plenty are well served). Reviews, even of updates and promo material, take days.

You have to wonder just how commited anyone at ARS is to the program. One guy at Option Mind was off for a week and another for 2 days. The result was that all communication via the board stopped and reviews/updates slowed even more. That comes across more like a shoestring operation than one which has some serious clout behind it.

DeluxePass (Adult Bouncer and AdultsAllowed too) all have similar programs. The review process at Adult Bouncer has to have been designed by the grandfather of all bureaucrats. It is confusing, poorly documented, doesn't seem to progress without prodding, etc. AB is also very restrictive about using either their hosting or their content for promos. On all these counts DP and AA come out well ahead, although all three have plenty of content and make sales.

With those three, although webmasters can promote your sites/tours, this aspect of their programs seems like a kind of afterthought. The facility exists and that's about it: you are basically on your own if you want to make use of it.

As someone else said, PornAccess has maybe the best all-round program of this type at present. The setup instructions are a bit vague, but the system is simple enough and they have Mon-Fri ICQ contact to talk you through. Everything moves very quickly and they at least have the bare bones of a central area for promoting your sites to other webmasters. Improvements to that are on the way and sales-wise, so far PA seems fine.

Then there is Jans Webring. Right now it is self-promo only (although that is supposed to change in a few weeks). The review process was easy, though slow (I was told "server maintenance" was going on every time I asked about delays). The available content was also very generic, although plentiful. Quite a few large TGPs promote Jans and my experience with them is extremely limited, so time will tell.

CHAMP may still turn out well, but so far I'm not optimistic. If I had to choose one program right now, it would be PornAccess.

Very thorough but I would still go with DP as they are rock solid and VERY proven, not to mention checks are like clockwork for years now

[stev0]

Originally posted by twistyneck
I would never trust ARS because they have a funny habit of changing and eliminating programs that their webmasters have put tons of work into.

And then selling webmasters hard earned traffic back to them... haha

[jayeff]

Originally posted by Veterans Day
Very thorough but I would still go with DP as they are rock solid and VERY proven, not to mention checks are like clockwork for years now

Six month's ago people were saying the same thing about Adult Check. Three month's ago a lot of of people were earning a lot of money with ARS.

These days I don't trust anyone beyond the last payment I got from them...

[PR_Dave]

ARS Champs offers a $30 per signup program

DP doesn't.

ARS Champs pays weekly.

DP doesn't.

ARS Champs doesn't take refunds out of your pay.

DP does, which is extremely gay.

You can easily promote any of the Champs sites, just go to the linking codes page.

With DP you have to negotiate with the site owner and may get $10 recurring at most if the site owner replies to your email in the first place.

Buidling sites with Champs is simple, their content system kicks ass, no messing with uploading and downloading huge files.

Again opposite with DP. You need a lot of HD space and a fast connection to manage your site.

ARS is paying out $75 per signup every Friday in June,

DP, AB, and PA aren't.

[mcmc]

i did 4 sites for the CHAMP system and they are concerting really fine.

Sites (console free) :

Kinky Queens

White Boys Black Girls

Fat Girls XXX

Legs And Feet

hope you like these sites (Gimme some feedback please). You can choose if you want to get paid per signup or rev share.

its really easy to do CHAMP sites ... read the manual here

[mcmc]

concerting = converting

[Veterans Day]

Originally posted by Nutella
ARS Champs offers a $30 per signup program

DP doesn't.

ARS Champs pays weekly.

DP doesn't.

ARS Champs doesn't take refunds out of your pay.

DP does, which is extremely gay.

You can easily promote any of the Champs sites, just go to the linking codes page.

With DP you have to negotiate with the site owner and may get $10 recurring at most if the site owner replies to your email in the first place.

Buidling sites with Champs is simple, their content system kicks ass, no messing with uploading and downloading huge files.

Again opposite with DP. You need a lot of HD space and a fast connection to manage your site.

ARS is paying out $75 per signup every Friday in June,

DP, AB, and PA aren't.

DP's recurring dwarfs ARS's 30-35 per
DP refunds are beyond rare
Any movies Clement will move to your server
You will make alot more with the same member with DP no questions.

[body]

Originally posted by jayeff
I have 2 tours with ARS/CHAMP and IMO they have far the best webmaster setup of all these AVS/AEN sites: especially if you are hoping to have other webmasters promote your stuff. BUT...

So far the trickle of traffic other webmasters are sending to my sites is very disappointing. Obviously that could be something I'm doing wrong, but considering how many webmasters promoted GIM/BYOT, the lack of activity on the CHAMP board does suggest that a lot have jumped ship. Dropping a program weeks before a replacement is ready, isn't going to inspire much confidence.

And everything is so sssssllllllllloooooowwwwwww over there. Two months into the program and despite a lot of promises, there are niches with little or no content (though in fairness plenty are well served). Reviews, even of updates and promo material, take days.

You have to wonder just how commited anyone at ARS is to the program. One guy at Option Mind was off for a week and another for 2 days. The result was that all communication via the board stopped and reviews/updates slowed even more. That comes across more like a shoestring operation than one which has some serious clout behind it.

DeluxePass (Adult Bouncer and AdultsAllowed too) all have similar programs. The review process at Adult Bouncer has to have been designed by the grandfather of all bureaucrats. It is confusing, poorly documented, doesn't seem to progress without prodding, etc. AB is also very restrictive about using either their hosting or their content for promos. On all these counts DP and AA come out well ahead, although all three have plenty of content and make sales.

With those three, although webmasters can promote your sites/tours, this aspect of their programs seems like a kind of afterthought. The facility exists and that's about it: you are basically on your own if you want to make use of it.

As someone else said, PornAccess has maybe the best all-round program of this type at present. The setup instructions are a bit vague, but the system is simple enough and they have Mon-Fri ICQ contact to talk you through. Everything moves very quickly and they at least have the bare bones of a central area for promoting your sites to other webmasters. Improvements to that are on the way and sales-wise, so far PA seems fine.

Then there is Jans Webring. Right now it is self-promo only (although that is supposed to change in a few weeks). The review process was easy, though slow (I was told "server maintenance" was going on every time I asked about delays). The available content was also very generic, although plentiful. Quite a few large TGPs promote Jans and my experience with them is extremely limited, so time will tell.

CHAMP may still turn out well, but so far I'm not optimistic. If I had to choose one program right now, it would be PornAccess.

Nice, there is also www.amazingpass.com which is new

[DaLord]

DP is by far the best.

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by mcmc
concerting = converting

gfy for dummies hint #140

there's a motherfucking edit link

[digi]

Originally posted by Veterans Day
DP's recurring dwarfs ARS's 30-35 per

champs has a recurring option as well, you just change one letter in the linking code

[mcmc]

i did 4 sites for the CHAMP system and they are concerting really fine.

Sites (console free) :

Kinky Queens

White Boys Black Girls

Fat Girls XXX

Legs And Feet

hope you like these sites (Gimme some feedback please). You can choose if you want to get paid per signup or rev share.

its really easy to do CHAMP sites ... read the manual here

Im getting paid $2.5 (by ARS) recurring for every member sent by another webmaster. Is that possible with these other programs as well? How much do they pay to the site owner?

[mcmc]

gfy for dummies hint #140

limit expired

[Major (Tom)]

Deluxe Pass for sure
good payouts, good retention, honesty, good support. I've been with them for years and never had a problem. Conversions are awesome.
Duke

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by mcmc
limit expired

ok, you're cleared then.

[mcmc]

thank you Master Iguana

[GoodGuy]

I recommend AdultsAllowed.

www.adultsallowed.com

They have a great support, DVDs, they always pay and convert well.