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Old 05-23-2004, 09:43 PM   #1
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what kind of claim can I make against AaronM for this video he's posted. Yes, it was his video cam, but I never signed any release of any kind, and I want this shit stopped.


any content people or lawyers that deal with content hanging around, ICQ me at 167-332-978 or email me at amp | at | adult dot com and let's talk. If there are any damages possible, I will split the proceeds.
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:44 PM   #2
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:45 PM   #3
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what kind of claim can I make against AaronM for this video he's posted. Yes, it was his video cam, but I never signed any release of any kind, and I want this shit stopped.


any content people or lawyers that deal with content hanging around, ICQ me at 167-332-978 or email me at amp | at | adult dot com and let's talk. If there are any damages possible, I will split the proceeds.
Get ahold of J.D. Obenberger with xxxlaw.net.

Best of luck to you.
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:46 PM   #4
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Hate to say this (without seeing the video of course) if he is just releasing it and not profiting from it there is little to nothing you can do. He is the photographer correct?
Was he under the employment of someone when the video was made that could have an intellectual property rights clause?
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:47 PM   #5
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Hate to say this (without seeing the video of course) if he is just releasing it and not profiting from it there is little to nothing you can do. He is the photographer correct?
Was he under the employment of someone when the video was made that could have an intellectual property rights clause?
way I see it, whether he's profiting or causing me damage, I have a claim. Oh I'll be talking to a lawyer this coming week, but I thought I'd ask here since it's Sunday, and lots of legal/content type people hang here.
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:48 PM   #6
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A hundred years ago, as I was growing up, we would sometimes call a woman a (gal) no disrespect intended. Today, GAL means to "Get A Life". Well, Amp....GAL
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Not gunna say you can not sue. Just stating what is generally the case.

Opps forgot to ask and please do not take it the wrong way. Were you under the influence of anything when it was made?
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:50 PM   #8
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Hate to say this (without seeing the video of course) if he is just releasing it and not profiting from it there is little to nothing you can do. He is the photographer correct?
Was he under the employment of someone when the video was made that could have an intellectual property rights clause?

http://www.ampcontent.com/BoardPix/AMPDoc.wmv



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Opps forgot to ask and please do not take it the wrong way. Were you under the influence of anything when it was made?

BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!

AMP...Under the influence?

NEVER!
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:57 PM   #10
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Amp, the video is harmless, and you didn't seem to be forced to appear in it.. i dont see how a lawsuit would hold up in any form of court.. because he didnt profit from it, you seemed to go along with it (in your own home), and there is no slander involved..

just chill out, it was a cool vid
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:58 PM   #11
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Amp, the video is harmless, and you didn't seem to be forced to appear in it.. i dont see how a lawsuit would hold up in any form of court.. because he didnt profit from it, you seemed to go along with it (in your own home), and there is no slander involved..

just chill out, it was a cool vid
I will pursue it regardless. Because I don't think it's a particularly "cool" anything.
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Old 05-23-2004, 10:09 PM   #12
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You definitely have a case, I cant wait untill i see it on

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Old 05-23-2004, 10:11 PM   #13
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way I see it, whether he's profiting or causing me damage, I have a claim. Oh I'll be talking to a lawyer this coming week, but I thought I'd ask here since it's Sunday, and lots of legal/content type people hang here.
Did you willingly allow the video to be shot? Was it in Private, is it damging your reputation, did you know Aaron was a professional photographer?

Sorry you don't have a leg to stand on. IMHO

It does not matter about profit it matters if it harms Amp.
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what kind of claim can I make against AaronM for this video he's posted. Yes, it was his video cam, but I never signed any release of any kind, and I want this shit stopped.


any content people or lawyers that deal with content hanging around, ICQ me at 167-332-978 or email me at amp | at | adult dot com and let's talk. If there are any damages possible, I will split the proceeds.
You can sue anyone for anything in the states.. but goodluck on this one.
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Old 05-23-2004, 10:16 PM   #16
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Did you willingly allow the video to be shot? Was it in Private, is it damging your reputation, did you know Aaron was a professional photographer?

Sorry you don't have a leg to stand on. IMHO

It does not matter about profit it matters if it harms Amp.
I feel that it's harming me. (business appearances) And I want it removed, and I want restitution.

I never agreed to any of it being released until it was "finished". (although I never had any intention of finishing it) And Aaron gave me his "word" that he would stick to that. Granted it was verbal. Not good for me, not good for him either.

That obviously didn't happen, and I don't think video of me is doing me a whole lotta good at this stage. I'm not on the campaign trail, and I'm not trying to make an impression on anyone. This video is not to my benefit, which in my view, is doing the opposite. Damage.
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I'm goin' to bbq some chicken & watch a movie.


aloha & goodnight people.
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Old 05-23-2004, 10:26 PM   #19
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You could sue...after all its your money but you would be pushing shit uphill to win.

There is no physical profit being gained from the clip.

You say you feel that it is harming you. you could try for defamation but then again it is you in the video acting of your own accord so your fucked there.

Basically your fucked theres nothing you can do about it.
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aloha & goodnight people.
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I hope you like your movie better than the one I made.
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You say you feel that it is harming you. you could try for defamation but then again it is you in the video acting of your own accord so your fucked there.
For it to be defamation, actual financial loss has to be proven. There will be no financial loss, therefore no defamation.
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Amp, seriously dude calm down. Not only do you have no grounds to do anything legally you come off as an ass for even wanting to.

Damaging to you? How, by telling us what we already know? Seriously, I know we've shared words before but it's all just fucking around. Don't make yourself out to be a fool over something so petty just because you have a personal beef with the photographer.
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I just played that video and Laura yelled at me from the other room..."What the hell are you watching? That guy sounds super lame."
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I just played that video and Laura yelled at me from the other room..."What the hell are you watching? That guy sounds super lame."
This coming from a woman who is married to a full grown man who is still stuck on comic books.
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I'm... in shock. This thread actually shocked me. Wow.... best of luck to both parties involved. I hope both receive that they are seeking...
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Amp, seriously dude calm down. Not only do you have no grounds to do anything legally you come off as an ass for even wanting to.

Damaging to you? How, by telling us what we already know? Seriously, I know we've shared words before but it's all just fucking around. Don't make yourself out to be a fool over something so petty just because you have a personal beef with the photographer.
look at the post and the comments below yours. (Rictor's)



tell me that's not damaging me.


It's one thing if I damage myself. It's quite another for someone else to be doing it. Not to mention, there are links to it everywhere now, and I'm sure plenty have saved it to disk and are probably editing it into worse shit as we speak.



(btw the chicken is gonna be awesome. Marinated all day, done in about 5 minutes)
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I feel that it's harming me. (business appearances) And I want it removed, and I want restitution.

I never agreed to any of it being released until it was "finished". (although I never had any intention of finishing it) And Aaron gave me his "word" that he would stick to that. Granted it was verbal. Not good for me, not good for him either.

That obviously didn't happen, and I don't think video of me is doing me a whole lotta good at this stage. I'm not on the campaign trail, and I'm not trying to make an impression on anyone. This video is not to my benefit, which in my view, is doing the opposite. Damage.
you've BOTH broken your word to each other...........

and one doing it doesn't necesitate the other doing it.
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you've BOTH broken your word to each other...........

and one doing it doesn't necesitate the other doing it.
Excuse me?

Where I have EVER broken my word to him?
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Excuse me?

Where I have EVER broken my word to him?
maybe i made a mistake
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maybe i made a mistake

Ah...I hate it when that happens.

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This coming from a woman who is married to a full grown man who is still stuck on comic books.
Hey! I resemble that.
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Excuse me?

Where I have EVER broken my word to him?
how about you promising me you would do nothing with this footage until it was finished?


or did that slip your mind.
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Amp,

I honestly thought that video was pretty fucking cool. I don't think it portrayed you badly at all. It actually makes me like you more. Seriously. I am not bullshitting you.

As far as legal recourse..... I don't see it happening.

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Excuse me?

Where I have EVER broken my word to him?
I would say that you broke an "implied" promise: the implied promise to Amp and to the rest of us that the name "AaronM" means 'a down to earth badass mother fucker with class'. You are an asshole on this board to people who deserve it. That is admirable and makes you AaronM. That does not take away from your class... but what WOULD take away the class of AaronM would be to purposefully torture a person that's admittedly ill at the moment.

I'm not 100% sure you are doing this at the moment. I sure hope not.
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how about you promising me you would do nothing with this footage until it was finished?


or did that slip your mind.
Well...since you are convinced that I fucked you over and you are no longer my friend...I see it as being a finished project and I have started editing it all together.

As the person who is producing it.....I think it's finished as much as it possibly can be.....Therefore.........

You don't think I keep my word to you anyway so why should I give a fuck what you think?

How's the movie and chicken?
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I would say that you broke an "implied" promise: the implied promise to Amp and to the rest of us that the name "AaronM" means 'a down to earth badass mother fucker with class'. You are an asshole on this board to people who deserve it. That is admirable and makes you AaronM. That does not take away from your class... but what WOULD take away the class of AaronM would be to purposefully torture a person that's admittedly ill at the moment.

I'm not 100% sure you are doing this at the moment. I sure hope not.

This is hardly worth a reply. You know me better than that.
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you are convinced that I fucked you over and you are no longer my friend
That is still a very sad situation. Amp, you're flat out wrong about that. You lost a good friend. You should get him back. It's good therapy to admit when you're wrong. And I know Aaron would be gracious about it and not rub it in your face more than once. It would be pretty painless and you would feel great... AND you'd have a good friend back.

Please think about it.
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This is hardly worth a reply. You know me better than that.
I'm trying to see if Amp has some sort of hidden concern here. It's hard for me to see what he's concerned about with that video. Am I missing something? I thought the video was great.
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I'm trying to see if Amp has some sort of hidden concern here. It's hard for me to see what he's concerned about with that video. Am I missing something? I thought the video was great.
That video was great...It would have been even better to have it full length.

What you are missing is that AMP really is a nice guy but he can't deal with that side so he has to revert back to the "other" AMP that we all know and uh....hmm...like?


Anyway......He's humble for more than one reason. Personally, I think it took a lot of sack for him to even show his face back here after his banning. I'm glad to see him back...It shows progress.

He may think I don't care about him but he's wrong.
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I thought the video was great.
I honestly did. It made me like him more. It's a great "behind the scenes" video. I think it's actually artistic. Maybe I read more into videos than what are actually there, but I see a lot of "the human condition" in the story of Amp... from the board to the video. He's a guy making a living as a designer for one of the most successful companies in the porn business. Yet he faces the same problems and personal demons as everyone else in the "mainstrean" world. He's justifiably proud of being "self taught". It's a great clip.
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:05 AM   #44
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Well...since you are convinced that I fucked you over and you are no longer my friend...I see it as being a finished project and I have started editing it all together.

As the person who is producing it.....I think it's finished as much as it possibly can be.....Therefore.........

You don't think I keep my word to you anyway so why should I give a fuck what you think?

How's the movie and chicken?
You filmed that shit on MY property, you have zero paperwork, you gave me a verbal promise that it would not be published until further filming was completed, you published it without my consent, and I think all of us here are smart enough to know it will be spread and edited into defamatory derivatives.

you play it off however you need to. I'm getting an attorney. And you will be served.


the chicken was great. The movie we passed on.
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:08 AM   #45
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What you are missing is that AMP really is a nice guy but he can't deal with that side so he has to revert back to the "other" AMP that we all know and uh....hmm...like?

Nope, I didn't miss that at all. I just didn't come up with the words to describe that part of it. You verbalized part of what the video revealed.

One thing that AMP seems to be missing is that AaronM is still trying hard to regain a friendship. I wish he wasn't so stubborn.

Amp, it's okay to be wrong. Hell, I once thought I was wrong, but I was wrong about that. So, see, we all are wrong from time to time.
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:10 AM   #46
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I think all of us here are smart enough to know it will be spread and edited into defamatory derivatives.

I must not be very smart. I don't see which part of that video could be used to defame you.
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:11 AM   #47
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You filmed that shit on MY property, you have zero paperwork, you gave me a verbal promise that it would not be published until further filming was completed, you published it without my consent, and I think all of us here are smart enough to know it will be spread and edited into defamatory derivatives.

you play it off however you need to. I'm getting an attorney. And you will be served.


the chicken was great. The movie we passed on.

Glad you enjoyed dinner.

Hey...When they serve me...Perhaps you can get them to drop off that restraining order that you promissed me as well.

My front door is wide open this very minute......Do you think they can make it by tonight? I need another laugh.
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:14 AM   #48
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I would say that you broke an "implied" promise: the implied promise to Amp and to the rest of us that the name "AaronM" means 'a down to earth badass mother fucker with class'. You are an asshole on this board to people who deserve it. That is admirable and makes you AaronM. That does not take away from your class... but what WOULD take away the class of AaronM would be to purposefully torture a person that's admittedly ill at the moment.

I'm not 100% sure you are doing this at the moment. I sure hope not.
When I wrote this I was still puzzling over why Amp was upset about this video. I thought I must be missing something. I guess I missed nothing. Amp is assuming that because Aaron posted this video, there must be some sinister motive behind it.

I do believe Amp is incorrect in this assumption.
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:15 AM   #49
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Nope, I didn't miss that at all. I just didn't come up with the words to describe that part of it. You verbalized part of what the video revealed.

One thing that AMP seems to be missing is that AaronM is still trying hard to regain a friendship. I wish he wasn't so stubborn.

Amp, it's okay to be wrong. Hell, I once thought I was wrong, but I was wrong about that. So, see, we all are wrong from time to time.
it isn't about being wrong. I have freely admitted right here on GFY many times in the past, things that I have been wrong about.

it's about being wronged.


I got alot of ideals and principles...... but there is one that shines above all others. And I have said this to every single person that has ever been remotely close to me..... and Aaron has heard these words first hand.

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I am the most loyal, non-betraying, dedicated to the fucking end person you will ever meet. I will never fuck you. But if you ever fuck me...... even once....... you will fucking regret it for the rest of your natural fucking life.
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and it may seem extreme to you, but those are the words I fucking live by more than any others.
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:15 AM   #50
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I do believe Amp is incorrect in this assumption.
Correct.
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