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Old 05-22-2004, 05:26 AM   #1
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Iraq Prison Torture Was for Fun (pics)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. soldiers who abused prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq (news - web sites) were not always preparing them for interrogation but were punishing them or simply having fun, The Washington Post reported on Saturday.

The newspaper reported on documents showing that military police staged some of the abuse seen in now-notorious photographs to discipline the prisoners for riots, an alleged rape of a teenage boy and other acts.

Some of the photographs have been widely published, among them shots of a pyramid of naked prisoners, a hooded man standing on a box hooked up to wires, and three nude prisoners handcuffed together on the prison floor. The Post on Friday disclosed a collection of new photographs and video images and sworn depositions regarding the abuse of detainees by U.S. soldiers.

On Saturday, The Post said it had a sworn written statement in which a military police officer said civilian and military intelligence officers frequently visited the prison at night, taking detainees away for questioning inside a "wood hut" behind the prison.

The U.S. Congress and the Pentagon (news - web sites) are both investigating the revelations of physical and sexual abuse of Iraqi inmates at the prison outside Baghdad.

Seven U.S. soldiers, four men and three women, are facing courts-martial for abuses at Abu Ghraib and one, Spc. Jeremy Sivits, pleaded guilty on Wednesday. Another of them, Spec. Charles Graner, was identified in statements by eight detainees and is facing more charges than the others.

Graner's attorney has said previously that Graner was following orders of military intelligence officers.

The Post said several of the personnel seen in the photographs, including Sivits, Spc. Sabrina Harman, Sgt. Javal Davis and Private Lynndie England, have given statements to investigators.

The abuse was first reported by Spc. Joseph Darby, who is quoted by the newspaper as saying he found out about it when he began checking into a shooting at the prison.

Darby said he asked Graner if he had any photographs of the cell where the shooting occurred. Graner gave him two compact disks loaded with digital photos.

On them, he found hundreds of photographs showing naked detainees being abused by U.S. soldiers.

Darby quoted Graner, a former Pennsylvania prison guard, as saying: "The Christian in me says it's wrong, but the corrections officer in me says, 'I love to make a grown man piss himself."'

The Post said Graner and two others, Staff Sgt. Ivan Frederick and Spc. Meghan Ambuhl, asked for lawyers and declined to provide investigators with sworn statements.

The documents contain statements from MPs who described Graner and Frederick as the organizers of the abuse, it added.

Lawyers for some of the accused MPs have said intelligence officers ordered them to "soften up" prisoners for interrogation.

But on Oct. 24, the MPs decided to punish three detainees suspected of raping a teenage boy at the prison, the newspaper said.

"They started to handcuff the two rapists together in odd positions/ways," England is quoted as saying in the documents.

"The third guy was brought over and handcuffed between the other two. Then they were laying on the floor handcuffed together, so all the other prisoners could see them."

A detainee was also forced to stand on a box of food, with wires connected to his figures, toes and penis.

Harman is quoted as admitting she attached the wires to the prisoner, nicknamed "Gilligan," and told him he would be electrocuted if he fell off the box.

"Why did you do this to the detainee 'Gilligan'?" a military investigator asked in the documents.

"Just playing with him," Harman said.



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Old 05-22-2004, 05:31 AM   #2
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Old 05-22-2004, 05:39 AM   #4
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2nd. What's awesome with that torture stuff?
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2nd. What's awesome with that torture stuff?
Mostly because Im so fucking sick and tired of hearing about the same shit every fucking five minutes.
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Fuck iraq

I'll fucking torture those motherfuckers everyday if I had the chance


hahahahaless bastards


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Mostly because Im so fucking sick and tired of hearing about the same shit every fucking five minutes.
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Old 05-22-2004, 05:59 AM   #13
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Who gives a shit...

I couldnt care less about these ragheads getting slapped around a little.

You'd think these soldiers would have been taught the Geneva Convention before going into war. But more importantly, if you BREAK the Geneva Convention, dont be so fucking retarded that you actually take pictures of it.

This is what happens when you give piss-poor un-educated trailer trash a gun and a uniform.
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Old 05-22-2004, 06:02 AM   #14
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You said it
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Who gives a shit...

I couldnt care less about these ragheads getting slapped around a little.

You'd think these soldiers would have been taught the Geneva Convention before going into war. But more importantly, if you BREAK the Geneva Convention, dont be so fucking retarded that you actually take pictures of it.

This is what happens when you give piss-poor un-educated trailer trash a gun and a uniform.
What did those guys do to the Americans that they deserved this? Defend their country?
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So we've got one guy who was convicted of murdering a prisoner before the pictures surfaced and the story became big news, another who has plead guilty, another who says "I love to make a grown man piss himself.", and some chick saying "Just playing with him". One must now wonder if the few who say they were following orders are just covering their own ass.

edit: Oh yeah, and some MPs saying they did it as punishment.

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those people are so fucked up....
Indeed. I wonder if they even realize how much they've hurt their country with this shit.
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I only now that torture people is not funny at all

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plain stupid what they are doing.. makin this country look bad
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Fuck iraq

I'll fucking torture those motherfuckers everyday if I had the chance


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Thats awesome!
Then you be a prisoner and let them torture you.

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Thats awesome!
Seriously, how the fuck is that awesome?

The work of a bunch of reservist prison guards who more than likely pull the very same shit when they aren't wearing the uniform of the United States Army has pretty much fucked things up for any Americans who become prisoners of war in future conflicts.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander, how awesome will it be to see some 18 year old drafted female soldier, videotaped on Al Jazeera completely naked, with electrodes wired to her breasts and vagina and getting punched in repeatedly in the stomach?

The whole world is watching, what happens now has ramifications for YEARS to come, and frankly, I'm not looking forward to the payback of the Chinese or Syrian versions of Lynnde England or Charles Graner.
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They're prison guards. Guards at every level (civil and military) are likely to get sadistic. Even the guards in your perfect countries.

After the bullshit these guys go through (let alone military prison gaurds) and are subjected to everyday, things like this are bound to happen. I'm not saying it's right, but don't act so suprised.

Even parents beat their kids when they get out of line. And they love them.

Accept it, we are only human.
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What did those guys do to the Americans that they deserved this? Defend their country?
I'm not deffending the soldier's actions .. But these prisoners, as I understand it, are on the most secure cell blocks (1A and 1B). These are NOT people that are just being detained for questioning. Th

That doesn't give US soldier's the right to treat them like this .. But come on .. Little better than Cavemen, fuck 'em

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Seriously, how the fuck is that awesome?
What is good for the goose is good for the gander, how awesome will it be to see some 18 year old drafted female soldier, videotaped on Al Jazeera completely naked, with electrodes wired to her breasts and vagina and getting punched in repeatedly in the stomach?
Yeah that's right .... I forgot we're dealing with Saints here .. Look how well they "cared" for Jessica Lynch.
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Yeah that's right .... I forgot we're dealing with Saints here .. Look how well they "cared" for Jessica Lynch.
Nothing happened to her... she is just trying to make a buck
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Who gives a shit...

I couldnt care less about these ragheads getting slapped around a little.

You'd think these soldiers would have been taught the Geneva Convention before going into war. But more importantly, if you BREAK the Geneva Convention, dont be so fucking retarded that you actually take pictures of it.

This is what happens when you give piss-poor un-educated trailer trash a gun and a uniform.
Slapped around a little bit?? I read the other day that about 40 have been KILLED in the prisons... I don't care if they're "ragheads" or not, they don't deserve this.
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Youre a fucking idiot, if it was US soldiers getting tortured we would not hear the end of it. Everyone made a big deal about Nick Berg, he should have never gone to Iraq like the, neither should have any of the U.S. soldiers. What a waste of lives and money. I would love to see those U.S. soldiers get slapped around.
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Look at the guy in the second picture with glasses and a pedder-stache, he looks like a white steve urkel. He probably couldnt punch his way out of a wet paper bag.
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Did you see the Iraqi dog show? Here is the pic

http://www.crackheadcomedy.com/funny%20photos/23.htm


Can someone tell me why my pics wont post, they worked yesterday.

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Slapped around a little bit?? I read the other day that about 40 have been KILLED in the prisons... I don't care if they're "ragheads" or not, they don't deserve this.
Yes they does deserve it
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The work of a bunch of reservist prison guards who more than likely pull the very same shit when they aren't wearing the uniform of the United States Army has pretty much fucked things up for any Americans who become prisoners of war in future conflicts.
Correct!

But these US soldiers wouldnt be doing it if they didnt think it was ok with there superiors. No body does anything in the army unless they think its OK. Its just a matter of finding were the blame lies, how far up the chain of command knew?
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For fighting for there own country? They are prisoners of war and should be treated like so, the way we would like our prisoners treated
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For fighting for there own country? They are prisoners of war and should be treated like so, the way we would like our prisoners treated

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