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PornPimp · 05-21-2004, 12:52 AM

Since there is hard evidence about the shaving is anyone going to be taking legal action against PIB?

twistyneck · 05-21-2004, 12:53 AM

heh heh heh heh you said hard.

foolio · 05-21-2004, 12:57 AM

I can see the BS now:

"Just because the option was there does not mean it is being used"

hahahahahahaha -- I betcha that will be an excuse.

WiredGuy · 05-21-2004, 01:01 AM

I know someone who is and for the amount they shaved, he should

WG

PornPimp · 05-21-2004, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foolio
I can see the BS now:

"Just because the option was there does not mean it is being used"

hahahahahahaha -- I betcha that will be an excuse.

if you see the screen shots of the stats you can clearly see that the shaving options were being used. the screen shots show the actual number of signups compared to reported signups

JDog · 05-21-2004, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I know someone who is and for the amount they shaved, he should

WG

No shit, they were fucking shaving alot! What about the stats that were print screened.

jDoG

PornPimp · 05-21-2004, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
heh heh heh heh you said hard.

yes i did....like my "hard" cock right now

twistyneck · 05-21-2004, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornPimp
yes i did....like my "hard" cock right now

Homo.

foolio · 05-21-2004, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornPimp
if you see the screen shots of the stats you can clearly see that the shaving options were being used. the screen shots show the actual number of signups compared to reported signups

oh ya, no doubt they WERE being used... but I still bet they will try to say they were not.

PornPimp · 05-21-2004, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
Homo.

phobic?

WiredGuy · 05-21-2004, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
No shit, they were fucking shaving alot! What about the stats that were print screened.

jDoG

Didn't really look at other people's stats but the amounts he told me, he has a very legitimate case to go after them.

WG

boneprone · 05-21-2004, 01:05 AM

strange...

they shaved so much like 90% (or more) and they still couldnt make any money??

not good.

AaronM · 05-21-2004, 01:05 AM

I've said it before and I will say it again...

If anybody is interested in persuing legal action against Rodney Connor, feel free to contact me and I will put you in touch with my attorney. So far a couple of people have come forward and after tonight...I have been contacted by a couple more.

PornPimp · 05-21-2004, 01:15 AM

if i used them as a sponsor and got cheated out of that much signups i probably would seek legal action too.

KRL · 05-21-2004, 01:20 AM

Civil lawsuit?

You can file a criminal complaint and nail them on RICO charges.

smokingdawn · 05-21-2004, 01:26 AM

Looks like they are screwed

JDog · 05-21-2004, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Didn't really look at other people's stats but the amounts he told me, he has a very legitimate case to go after them.

WG

Nah but there are screen shots of total daily sales & reported sales, they were pretty bad!

jDoG

WiredGuy · 05-21-2004, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
Nah but there are screen shots of total daily sales & reported sales, they were pretty bad!

jDoG

url?

EviLGuY · 05-21-2004, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornPimp
Since there is hard evidence about the shaving is anyone going to be taking legal action against PIB?

Doubt its worth the effort.. from a glance at their traffic stats the past little while it doesnt look like their would be much to go after.

JDog · 05-21-2004, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
url?

http://www.picgoo.com/uploads/screen1.gif

there's one of them, there was another screen shot, I'm trying to find it right now, it is in the other PIB thread!

jDoG

WiredGuy · 05-21-2004, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
http://www.picgoo.com/uploads/screen1.gif

there's one of them, there was another screen shot, I'm trying to find it right now, it is in the other PIB thread!

jDoG

Oh my, that's a shave and a half!
WG

JDog · 05-21-2004, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Oh my, that's a shave and a half!
WG

I would call it more than a shave! Fuck, I can't even think of a word for it!

jDoG

schiz · 05-21-2004, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
http://www.picgoo.com/uploads/screen1.gif

there's one of them, there was another screen shot, I'm trying to find it right now, it is in the other PIB thread!

jDoG

Here's the other one

http://www.picgoo.com/uploads/screen4.gif

WiredGuy · 05-21-2004, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
I would call it more than a shave! Fuck, I can't even think of a word for it!

jDoG

How about beheading

JDog · 05-21-2004, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by schiz
Here's the other one

http://www.picgoo.com/uploads/screen4.gif

There we go, that was the one I couldn't find!

jDoG

JDog · 05-21-2004, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
How about beheading

Hell that's a better word for it than shaving! Never believed this shit before, but seeing it with my own eyes it makes a big difference.

jDoG

dig420 · 05-21-2004, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
Nah but there are screen shots of total daily sales & reported sales, they were pretty bad!

jDoG

well his traffic wasn't being reported as big, about 5k hits/day max, but he was showing up to 96 joins per day.

I looked at those sites, and they're not converting at 1/50, no way in hell. I wouldn't take any of those numbers as gospel. The script was fucked.

Firehorse · 05-21-2004, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by smokingdawn
Looks like they are screwed

Succintly put!

BradM · 05-21-2004, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
http://www.picgoo.com/uploads/screen1.gif

there's one of them, there was another screen shot, I'm trying to find it right now, it is in the other PIB thread!

jDoG

That's the hardest shave I have ever seen!

LadyMischief · 05-21-2004, 09:18 AM

A class action suit would be a good thing.

shogun3k · 05-21-2004, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
Homo.

are you involved in pibcash ?

DR_PHIL · 05-21-2004, 09:21 AM

this is why everyone and their mother shaves..lots of talk about legal action and nothing is done. Not that its easy to prove LEGALLY but comeon.

VeriSexy · 05-21-2004, 09:27 AM

Wow, that is what you call major shaving!!!!

pradaboy · 05-21-2004, 10:24 AM

wow talk about shaving... fuck that's like 90% shave!

Rictor · 05-21-2004, 10:26 AM

If it goes to court, it should set an interesting precedent. Hopefully they lose badly and it encourages other sponsors to be more honest.

<IMX> · 05-21-2004, 10:29 AM

lol...b/c generally there is nothing left after these companies bow out.

Anybody sue babenet or Likewhoa?

Rick Latona · 05-21-2004, 10:31 AM

I believe in the case of fraud you can go directly after the owner's personal assets.

RawAlex · 05-21-2004, 10:35 AM

Well, here's the thing folks:

Shaving is not only a civil thing, but could also be a criminal act (fraud). In the US, officers of a company that support and operate a fraudulent scheme in the company name are also liable themselves in criminal court.

There may be no money, but I would suggest that a winning judgement (even if not able to be paid financially) might be enough to get the DA in that area working on fraud charges.

You could also point this out to the feds, who might want to come have a look at the books to see where that money was going (is the shave just not being reported, or are those signups and payments getting diverted elsewhere... and is that elsewhere an officer's personal account?)

If you think you have a leg to stand on, aim high and wide.

Alex

mpahlca · 05-21-2004, 10:42 AM

Exactly, shaving stats is a criminal offence, press charges join the lawsuit! I never bothered with PIB thought their tours where shit, but if you did even if you are not sure you got shaved, join the lawsuit and help stop sponsors STEALING from you! Make them accountable!

05-21-2004, 12:52 AM	#1
PornPimp So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 116	Lawsuit against PIB cash Since there is hard evidence about the shaving is anyone going to be taking legal action against PIB?

05-21-2004, 12:57 AM	#3
foolio ICQ: 178725656 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 12,366	I can see the BS now: "Just because the option was there does not mean it is being used" hahahahahahaha -- I betcha that will be an excuse. __________________

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05-21-2004, 10:35 AM	#38
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Well, here's the thing folks: Shaving is not only a civil thing, but could also be a criminal act (fraud). In the US, officers of a company that support and operate a fraudulent scheme in the company name are also liable themselves in criminal court. There may be no money, but I would suggest that a winning judgement (even if not able to be paid financially) might be enough to get the DA in that area working on fraud charges. You could also point this out to the feds, who might want to come have a look at the books to see where that money was going (is the shave just not being reported, or are those signups and payments getting diverted elsewhere... and is that elsewhere an officer's personal account?) If you think you have a leg to stand on, aim high and wide. Alex

05-21-2004, 10:42 AM	#39
mpahlca Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,821	Exactly, shaving stats is a criminal offence, press charges join the lawsuit! I never bothered with PIB thought their tours where shit, but if you did even if you are not sure you got shaved, join the lawsuit and help stop sponsors STEALING from you! Make them accountable! __________________ I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.