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Old 05-21-2004, 09:19 AM   #151
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That's tottaly fucked up
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Old 05-21-2004, 09:32 AM   #152
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Sweet shit, he sent 114 joins one day and they paid him for two.
If other sponsors could have only made him 1 sale a day, he still comes out ahead no matter how you look at it.
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Old 05-21-2004, 09:49 AM   #153
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That is so fucked up......

Those shots really show what is happening in the industry....... I dont know what sort of traffic that guy was sending, but I dont ever think I have seen those sorts of conversions.

Who else is doing this to us? All of them?
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Old 05-21-2004, 09:52 AM   #154
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here is their msg board http://www.pornisbad.com
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haha

buddy rodney deleting all related to this topic.

hahahaha...

it not help, rodney....

where is my money, goat?
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Old 05-21-2004, 10:08 AM   #156
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Old 05-21-2004, 10:18 AM   #157
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damn shame.

can't wait for one of these shaving fucks to get rico'd...then maybe this biz might change a bit for the better.
that's what I'm waiting for it will happen
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A good thing to do would be to make a sponsor blacklist in the webmasters area of our websites. It's ok if everyone does it, he can't sue us all.
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Old 05-21-2004, 10:30 AM   #160
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A good thing to do would be to make a sponsor blacklist in the webmasters area of our websites. It's ok if everyone does it, he can't sue us all.
Just make something simple

paysites I know for a fact cheat.

PibCash

and put up a link to the GFY thread that has the screen shots.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagen umber=3
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Old 05-21-2004, 10:40 AM   #162
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Old 05-21-2004, 10:54 AM   #163
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ahhhhh those links don't work anymore
Yes. I think they may have noticed the flaw.
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Old 05-21-2004, 01:27 PM   #166
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Old 05-21-2004, 01:29 PM   #167
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Old 05-21-2004, 02:55 PM   #168
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cant they get legal actions? how come nothing happened yet?
who?

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Doubt the company has much cause for action for anything except (possibly) against anyone who took stuff last night. Maybe for defacing also or actually doing damage.

I think a lot of webmatsters have cause for action against them for what they did, because what they did was theft and fraud.

I know some webmasters who don't make a lot of money who could have really used those few sales that were stolen from them.
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Old 05-21-2004, 04:16 PM   #171
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is this an inhouse solution or a third party software?

Automated Sponsor system

Sucks for all those people that was promoting them...
Actually I looked up the name of the company and the company for the whois on pibcash.com is the same as the maker for the ASS.

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Old 05-22-2004, 01:29 AM   #174
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Doubt the company has much cause for action for anything except (possibly) against anyone who took stuff last night. Maybe for defacing also or actually doing damage.

I think a lot of webmatsters have cause for action against them for what they did, because what they did was theft and fraud.

I know some webmasters who don't make a lot of money who could have really used those few sales that were stolen from them.
i make calculation according to their stats in webmaster area.

at current moment they owe to me $721.25

it what their stats showing.

and as always i dont receive any checks from pibcash...
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Old 05-22-2004, 10:35 AM   #175
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Sweet shit, he sent 114 joins one day and they paid him for two. That's a fucking crime, I hope whoever belongs to that account and similar ones take action.
No doubt that guy was spamming for them, so they turned the shaving up on full thinking he wouldn't know the difference.

Crazy shit being paid $60/day when you should be receiving more than $3400/day.
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Old 05-22-2004, 08:03 PM   #178
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Doubt the company has much cause for action for anything except (possibly) against anyone who took stuff last night. Maybe for defacing also or actually doing damage.

I think a lot of webmatsters have cause for action against them for what they did, because what they did was theft and fraud.

I know some webmasters who don't make a lot of money who could have really used those few sales that were stolen from them.
Extra FEW sales !!!!!! from the posts I saw, if true, they were really doing a RIP job!!! More than just a few bucks.

Funny, there webmaster ad reads NO SHAVING.

Did they ever make a public statement?
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Old 05-22-2004, 08:14 PM   #180
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Has anyone ever been to their headquarters to 'discuss' the situation?
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Here's what will probably be my last word on the subject (unless I say something else...)

I made a famous post condemning the lack of imperical evidence from the famous Screen Caps of November, and after seeing the links in question, and noting that even yours truly was being shaved (I was set at 25%, that must be for preferred webmasters) I'll have to weigh in with a guilty verdict.

And to answer your question, Dr. Dre, since you love to post it every time I post something, No, I don't work for PIBcash. Never did. If you know of any checks written to me that would indicate otherwise, I would love to see them.
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I haven't seen the site just the screencaps... so I can't verify. Prolly someone has more insight here... but can't it be that 'Joins' just refers to the join page hits and joins reported are the real joins? Cause form what I've seen so far all the accounts on the screencaps have yummy ratios of 1:50. That's even for SE an excellent result. But if it's TGP traffic then it's still good when you take the uniques:joins reported... 1:800

are there screenshots of more accounts?
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Old 05-22-2004, 10:11 PM   #183
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I must have missed PIB Cash statement.....

Guilty of shaving or what.....

Are they going to be Black Listed?
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I haven't seen the site just the screencaps... so I can't verify. Prolly someone has more insight here... but can't it be that 'Joins' just refers to the join page hits and joins reported are the real joins? Cause form what I've seen so far all the accounts on the screencaps have yummy ratios of 1:50. That's even for SE an excellent result. But if it's TGP traffic then it's still good when you take the uniques:joins reported... 1:800

are there screenshots of more accounts?
who care - shave they or not if they DONT PAY ME?

they DONT PAY ME what im earn according to their stats (not where these screenshots etc show some shit) - their standart webmasters stats.

they DONT PAY ME.

rodney ignore my icq messages.

i banned at their board.

at their board post now only few asslickers.

they OWN3D.

i be bumping this topic while i dont see my money - what their owe to me.

in other words - this mean what this topic be at 1st page forever.
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Old 05-22-2004, 11:38 PM   #185
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I'm sure those scamming fucks wont be posting here any time soon seeing as the front page of pibcash.com said "Own3d By GFY Crew" or some shit....
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If you were shaved or thought you were here are some options.

Speak to a lawyer.

Speak to the police, maybe even the FBI.

Speak to his billing processor.

Speak to Visa.

He's breaking the law and the best I've heard so far is black listing PIB.

Please give me a break, you are making it far too easy for PIB.

There are many people PIB stitched who would come together if only one of you stood up and did something.
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I think i speak for a lot of people when i say pibcash who? Never heard of em... .guess im out of the loop thankfully.....

anyway bump for cheaters....
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Look how well guys that run large affiliate programs live.

Doesn't that say it all? Wake up and smell the coffee folks.

You're trusting total strangers with your valuable traffic just cause you see everyone else trusting them.
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Look how well guys that run large affiliate programs live.

Doesn't that say it all? Wake up and smell the coffee folks.

You're trusting total strangers with your valuable traffic just cause you see everyone else trusting them.
you wrong.

i dig in this shit called pibcash when Tam work for pibcash.

when Tam been fired and i as soon as read this at some board - dont remember what board extacly - i remove all their gallerys from my gallerys rotators.

or you think i be trust to guy called rodney connor after he 'sent' checks to one of my friends - about $2.5k "been" "sent".
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I haven't seen the site just the screencaps... so I can't verify. Prolly someone has more insight here... but can't it be that 'Joins' just refers to the join page hits and joins reported are the real joins? Cause form what I've seen so far all the accounts on the screencaps have yummy ratios of 1:50. That's even for SE an excellent result. But if it's TGP traffic then it's still good when you take the uniques:joins reported... 1:800

are there screenshots of more accounts?
Ratios look wierd to me too. Sites are really nothing special, they can't convert that well.

Perhaps those "joins" are e-mail joins? They seem to collect e-mails at their sites, sometimes at their join pages too:
http://www.dcgirls.com/join.php
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If you were shaved or thought you were here are some options.

Speak to a lawyer.

Speak to the police, maybe even the FBI.

Speak to his billing processor.

Speak to Visa.

He's breaking the law and the best I've heard so far is black listing PIB.

Please give me a break, you are making it far too easy for PIB.

There are many people PIB stitched who would come together if only one of you stood up and did something.
Charly, The Poice 'n FBI? The US admin is not for porn, we're the next war.... Most affiliates don't have the $$$ to mount a civil action. If they did, they'd be doing the shaving. Visa, WTF, they get the same $ either way and its a hole they don't want to jump into. Plus, you have to have specific examples.

Outside chance with the FTC, but sure we're not on the top of their list to help. Its fend for yourself time.

My A sponsor lives on his rep with affiliates. Get caught shaving and risk the reputation. Not all sponsors rely on affilaites for 100% of their income anyway. Will PIB make it through this? I note their site is back up and acting like nothing was wrong for the most part. Their webmaster ad says we don't shave!
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Old 05-23-2004, 07:58 AM   #196
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Guess the standup and do somethig part charly is drop them as a sponsor, just stop sending traffic.
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Old 05-23-2004, 08:05 AM   #197
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Found this on another board. Figured it might be of interest. Screenshot shows some serious shaving.

http://www.picgoo.com/uploads/screen1.gif
omfg..97 joins...3 reporting...that almost a 100% shave
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Old 05-23-2004, 12:48 PM   #198
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:53 AM   #199
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who have home address of rodney connor?

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Old 05-24-2004, 01:00 AM   #200
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That shit was crazy, the default all around shave for every webmaster that joined was setting automatically to 50% it was fucking crazy!

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