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tony286 · 05-20-2004, 08:57 AM

I was playing with doing some encoding in quicktime and I was very impressed. Why would one use quicktime as the encoder of choice for a site? I figure everyone has it.

doober · 05-20-2004, 09:19 AM

you figured wrong

M_M · 05-20-2004, 09:56 AM

wmv 9, divx, xvid are all superior compression methods compared to quicktime

EviLGuY · 05-20-2004, 10:27 AM

I like quicktime .mov's for the quality.. but the software isn't pre-installed for most people. So its one more step..

Mutt · 05-20-2004, 10:40 AM

do you have stats on any of your sites which show how many people have the QT plugin?

it's small, i haven't checked in awhile but it's small.

MPEG-1 - the overwhelmingly most popular format still. tho i think there are some connoisseurs out there that want DivX in broadcast quality but most guys just want a good MPEG. Mpegs are playable without hassle by 99% of surfers.

loverboy · 05-20-2004, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by EviLGuY
I like quicktime .mov's for the quality.. but the software isn't pre-installed for most people. So its one more step..

smokingdawn · 05-20-2004, 11:00 AM

Quicktime is not bad but I prefer .wmv files

Digipimp · 05-20-2004, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by M_M
wmv 9, divx, xvid are all superior compression methods compared to quicktime

someone is smoking the glass dick

TheMob · 05-20-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
someone is smoking the glass dick

Magg · 05-20-2004, 11:59 AM

everyone who isnt encoding in multiple formats to give people an option is missing out.

If it isnt a fucking WMV file, I dont bother watching it, signing up for it, voting for it, rubbing it with goat pee.

Im not going to install fucking other progs which fuck my system reg up and settings and everything.

and a special FUCK YOU to people who encode in RealPlayer... you fucking tards.

Meta Ridley · 05-20-2004, 12:02 PM

Quicktime is shit

Real is shit

Will not install either on my system. Both try to hijack everything.

Say what you will about wmp, but it is the best. And wmv compression is great.

Digipimp · 05-20-2004, 12:05 PM

so many clueless people in this biz. speak about what you know, not what you think you know.

Meta Ridley · 05-20-2004, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
so many clueless people in this biz. speak about what you know, not what you think you know.

Quick compression is nice but thier player sucks.

Digipimp · 05-20-2004, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Meta Ridley
Quick compression is nice but thier player sucks.

it's the best there is, you ever think for a minute to realize that windows and microsoft is the problem, not the player. that MS does everything they can to hinder quicktime and real on their platform.

Magg · 05-20-2004, 12:12 PM

im not commenting on the quality abilities, just their 'Q Factors'.

Meta Ridley · 05-20-2004, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
it's the best there is, you ever think for a minute to realize that windows and microsoft is the problem, not the player. that MS does everything they can to hinder quicktime and real on their platform.

I wouldnt doubt it, but both real and quicktime do the same thing when you install them on your system.

But the point, using wmv , means one less step for the surfer to see video (nnost surfers anyway) Quciktime is good to offer in addition to windows media format. Whats the point of real player?

Centurion · 05-20-2004, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
someone is smoking the glass dick

"wmv 9, divx, xvid are all superior compression methods compared to quicktime"

They most definitely are better than quicktime.
Do an easy comparison test..encode a movie in quicktime, and use the SAME bit rate with wmv9 or divx..you will not only see the higher quality of the video, but also smaller file size.

And it has been my experience that the surfer will also pay for a video that is larger in byte size as long as the QUALITY is better too.

More Booze · 05-20-2004, 12:19 PM

I really hate Quicktime and Realplayer, I dont want to have 3 different media players installed.

Use Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative to play these files in WMP.

Meta Ridley · 05-20-2004, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by More Booze
I really hate Quicktime and Realplayer, I dont want to have 3 different media players installed.

Use Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative to play these files in WMP.

Same here

tahiti · 05-20-2004, 12:23 PM

wmv: great compression, ugly movies and not crossplateform evn if mac version exist. Streams takes ages, and require MS OS to run And VERY VERY bad security.

Real: compression suck goats in hell, ugly quality, but faster start for streaming.

Quicktime: fair compression (supports many formats such as the latest 3gpp for cell phones and mepg4 clear crytal quality), very cross plateform. You can customize skins etc...

Most people who blame qt because the don't know how to use or setup quicktime! Using it just exporting to mov sucks, there're a lot of options to optimise the size for dl or for the stream.

We use quicktime stream servers using rtp/rtsp it free and easy to setup. It runs on OSX server, linux, solaris, and winblows.

tahiti · 05-20-2004, 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by More Booze
I really hate Quicktime and Realplayer, I dont want to have 3 different media players installed.

Use Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative to play these files in WMP.

YOU DON'T HAVE PANCAKE HEAD!

VLC is the most crossplateform player check that:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html

get a life and google sometimes after porn

maxdaname · 05-20-2004, 01:02 PM

I like Quicktime!

tony286 · 05-20-2004, 01:54 PM

I have always used wmv 9 but for shits and giggles I tried qt and it looked good and I didnt have to tweek it like wm9.

More Booze · 05-20-2004, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tahiti
YOU DON'T HAVE PANCAKE HEAD!

VLC is the most crossplateform player check that:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html

get a life and google sometimes after porn

I KNOW!!!

"Use Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative to play these files in WMP."

However installed VLC and it looks ok

MediumPimpin · 05-20-2004, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
I was playing with doing some encoding in quicktime and I was very impressed. Why would one use quicktime as the encoder of choice for a site? I figure everyone has it.

Looking at my logs on our member server about 3% use QT, for us it's a waste of space and time uploading the QT format, oh well trying to keep the 3% happy

cayne · 05-20-2004, 02:59 PM

I simply don't like that standard.

MediumPimpin · 05-20-2004, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by cayne
I simply don't like that standard.

It's time and money to give the minority this feature, the players are all free, for 3% of the surfers it may not be worth the effort to give them QT anymore, this is the same reason we stopped providing Real Player, no one complained.

just a punk · 05-20-2004, 03:51 PM

wmv rulez

tahiti · 05-20-2004, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by MediumPimpin
It's time and money to give the minority this feature, the players are all free, for 3% of the surfers it may not be worth the effort to give them QT anymore, this is the same reason we stopped providing Real Player, no one complained.

2 things:

1-quicktime doesn't only play mov files but many other formats.

2-Ignoring more than 150 million potential users is a choice. I don't ignore them, it's my choice.

About the complains, do you think a guy is going to complain? Not sure he will switch before registering that's sure.

DreamCumTrue · 05-20-2004, 04:03 PM

i DO use it

zzgundamnzz · 05-20-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by EviLGuY
I like quicktime .mov's for the quality.. but the software isn't pre-installed for most people. So its one more step..

Thats why I prefer wmv.

Compression quality to file size is excellent. Plus its readilly playable with 99% of all windows systems.

dunefield · 05-20-2004, 04:16 PM

i like quicktime... lot of movie trailers prefer to use quicktime because of it's great quality...

MediumPimpin · 05-20-2004, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by tahiti
2 things:

1-quicktime doesn't only play mov files but many other formats.

2-Ignoring more than 150 million potential users is a choice. I don't ignore them, it's my choice.

About the complains, do you think a guy is going to complain? Not sure he will switch before registering that's sure.

Never said I ignore them what I am saying is the bottom wont be affected, which means QT is just a waste of my time.

FTVGirls · 05-20-2004, 05:31 PM

well if you mean wmv9, microsoft finally put out an update for mac users to play wmv9 a few months ago. It obliterates the need for quicktime, unless you have an older Mac 0S.

05-20-2004, 08:57 AM	#1
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Why not use quicktime? I was playing with doing some encoding in quicktime and I was very impressed. Why would one use quicktime as the encoder of choice for a site? I figure everyone has it.

05-20-2004, 10:40 AM	#5
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	do you have stats on any of your sites which show how many people have the QT plugin? it's small, i haven't checked in awhile but it's small. MPEG-1 - the overwhelmingly most popular format still. tho i think there are some connoisseurs out there that want DivX in broadcast quality but most guys just want a good MPEG. Mpegs are playable without hassle by 99% of surfers. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-20-2004, 11:00 AM	#7
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05-20-2004, 12:23 PM	#20
tahiti Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: localhost Posts: 699	wmv: great compression, ugly movies and not crossplateform evn if mac version exist. Streams takes ages, and require MS OS to run And VERY VERY bad security. Real: compression suck goats in hell, ugly quality, but faster start for streaming. Quicktime: fair compression (supports many formats such as the latest 3gpp for cell phones and mepg4 clear crytal quality), very cross plateform. You can customize skins etc... Most people who blame qt because the don't know how to use or setup quicktime! Using it just exporting to mov sucks, there're a lot of options to optimise the size for dl or for the stream. We use quicktime stream servers using rtp/rtsp it free and easy to setup. It runs on OSX server, linux, solaris, and winblows. __________________ ------------------------------- Oliver Smith "Drunk Russian Hackers are Invincible" ASCII P0rn rules aim: olvrsmt icq: 21018030

05-20-2004, 09:19 AM	#2
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	you figured wrong

05-20-2004, 09:56 AM	#3
M_M Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,167	wmv 9, divx, xvid are all superior compression methods compared to quicktime

05-20-2004, 10:27 AM	#4
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	I like quicktime .mov's for the quality.. but the software isn't pre-installed for most people. So its one more step..

05-20-2004, 11:59 AM	#10
Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	everyone who isnt encoding in multiple formats to give people an option is missing out. If it isnt a fucking WMV file, I dont bother watching it, signing up for it, voting for it, rubbing it with goat pee. Im not going to install fucking other progs which fuck my system reg up and settings and everything. and a special FUCK YOU to people who encode in RealPlayer... you fucking tards.

05-20-2004, 12:02 PM	#11
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	Quicktime is shit Real is shit Will not install either on my system. Both try to hijack everything. Say what you will about wmp, but it is the best. And wmv compression is great.

05-20-2004, 12:12 PM	#15
Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	im not commenting on the quality abilities, just their 'Q Factors'.

05-20-2004, 12:19 PM	#18
More Booze Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,116	I really hate Quicktime and Realplayer, I dont want to have 3 different media players installed. Use Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative to play these files in WMP.

05-20-2004, 01:02 PM	#22
maxdaname Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,193	I like Quicktime!

05-20-2004, 01:54 PM	#23
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I have always used wmv 9 but for shits and giggles I tried qt and it looked good and I didnt have to tweek it like wm9.

05-20-2004, 02:59 PM	#26
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05-20-2004, 03:51 PM	#28
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,386	wmv rulez __________________ Obey the Cowgod

05-20-2004, 04:03 PM	#30
DreamCumTrue Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,985	i DO use it

05-20-2004, 04:16 PM	#32
dunefield www.barely18movies.com Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 10,920	i like quicktime... lot of movie trailers prefer to use quicktime because of it's great quality... __________________

05-20-2004, 05:31 PM	#34
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	well if you mean wmv9, microsoft finally put out an update for mac users to play wmv9 a few months ago. It obliterates the need for quicktime, unless you have an older Mac 0S.