2000Charge - No Third Party Processing - GoFuckYourself.com

Webby · 05-19-2004, 04:25 PM

Just in case anyone is processing with 2000Charge, - they have stopped 3rd party billing, alledgely since the 18th of this month, but in practice since the 15th - they just did not care to mention this to anyone.

You may.. or most likely, may not, have had any email or other notification from them. This was one of these subject they prefer to not mention to webmasters.

Once again... ya can't afford to trust *any* third party processors with recurring billing (since that control is often not within their hands) nor any purveyors of merchant accounts where the situation is really the same, but with extended risk to the client.

Sorry to any folks who just lost their recurring, once again

Now... it's time for another look at "real billing":-)

nudecanada · 05-19-2004, 04:28 PM

Wow, another one gone. Thanks for the heads up.

"Now... it's time for another look at "real billing":-)"

Such as?

KRL · 05-19-2004, 04:32 PM

Pretty soon its going to come down to only this.

"Click Here If You Promise To Mail Us The Money To Join This Site!"

I've tested this and it does really work. People will mail you there checks with just that comittment of trust. What's the worst case? If it doesn't arrive in a few days, you just cancel their pass.

Pornwolf · 05-19-2004, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

I've tested this and it does really work. People will mail you there checks with just that comittment of trust. What's the worst case? If it doesn't arrive in a few days, you just cancel their pass.

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-19-2004, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nudecanada

"Now... it's time for another look at "real billing":-)"

Such as?

CCBill, IBill & Paycom

ps. Hi Webby

Webby · 05-19-2004, 04:36 PM

KRL:

Quote:

I've tested this and it does really work. People will mail you there checks with just that comittment of trust. What's the worst case? If it doesn't arrive in a few days, you just cancel their pass

AdultMovies.bz · 05-19-2004, 04:37 PM

And no money is going to be released either... I just got this back from them:

Hello Stan,

We apologize, but the funds are frozen by the bank and we will release them as soon as the bank releases them to us.

Let me know if I can further assist you.

Regards
Ines
2000Charge

Webby · 05-19-2004, 04:44 PM

Quote:

CCBill, IBill & Paycom

Hi Ray!

Yea.... I was actually thinking about the people who have "half plans" implemented where the scenario was not the same as "credit card" processing and the rules governing "credit cards" do not, and most likely, never would apply since the card companies do not have the same "rights" over clients money.

The stuff epassporte.com have is one of these instances - I am sure they have been told about the whole possible scenario, but have implemented part of it. There may be obstacles and good reasons why they have not completed the loop.

There is a lot to this shit, and probably obstacle courses, but the sooner someone gets their act together on it - I'd think we will all be happy people!

Webby · 05-19-2004, 05:33 PM

AdultMovies.bz:

Quote:

And no money is going to be released either... I just got this back from them:

Hello Stan,

We apologize, but the funds are frozen by the bank and we will release them as soon as the bank releases them to us.

Let me know if I can further assist you.

Regards
Ines
2000Charge

It still amazes me the crappy standards processors have - it does not matter who they are. The track record over the years has been lower than anything I've ever dished out to anyone in decades of doing business.

I mention "processors" - they are not alone. The sheer corporate legalised fraud at the top level with card monopoly abuse where corps wrap themselves up with "legal words" and a pack of lawyers in a rathole to cover their asses, is neither honorable or have any connection to "justice".

Looks like the days of the hitman work best!

directfiesta · 05-19-2004, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Pretty soon its going to come down to only this.

"Click Here If You Promise To Mail Us The Money To Join This Site!"

I've tested this and it does really work. People will mail you there checks with just that comittment of trust. What's the worst case? If it doesn't arrive in a few days, you just cancel their pass.

LOL... but it could be the best solution... if not the only one.

emmanuelle · 05-19-2004, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Pretty soon its going to come down to only this.

"Click Here If You Promise To Mail Us The Money To Join This Site!"

We receive several money orders & cash subscriptions every week.
We're also trying out 123bill with good results

WWC-Hagan · 05-20-2004, 12:50 PM

as an ex-2000Charge employee, all i have to say is "good luck"!!

Doctor Dre · 05-20-2004, 12:53 PM

Only guys I'd trust are CCBill

EviLGuY · 05-20-2004, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
CCBill, IBill & Paycom

ps. Hi Webby

Yeah those are the holy trinity. Hopefully they will be processing joins for a long time to come.

Don/Atlas · 05-20-2004, 03:03 PM

I just tried to call them. Aint nobody home.

chri$tian · 05-20-2004, 03:06 PM

Does anyone else think that this is a TOTAL ASS FUCK.... No call, no email, no return phone calls... no notification AT ALL... They had to see this coming.

It's AMAZING to me that a company can just do this and not make a statement.

We use them for backup billing and Euro and bill a make good amount every month. (our wire never showed up on the 15th either)

We have 30+ sites that use them and have to be changed, thought we should wait to hear from someone over there before we removed all the code)

Pamporn · 05-20-2004, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hagancashnews
as an ex-2000Charge employee, all i have to say is "good luck"!!

Hi Hagan! You were the good guy in the bunch. Hope you have another job already.

http://www.2000charge.com/ the website is gone. Adios.

Don/Atlas · 05-20-2004, 03:36 PM

this cant be too good.

http://www.2000charge.com/

Pamporn · 05-20-2004, 03:48 PM

Of course it ain't good. We are fucked and that's it. Time to move on, again. Ig hagan is gone from 2kcharge then 2kcharge doesn't exist anymore.

goBigtime · 05-20-2004, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

I've tested this and it does really work. People will mail you there checks with just that comittment of trust. What's the worst case? If it doesn't arrive in a few days, you just cancel their pass.

Brings new meaning to the phrase "Free trial"

goBigtime · 05-20-2004, 03:58 PM

rodme_him · 05-24-2004, 08:00 PM

Guys,

I think you need to look at the site again, 2000Charge is still up and running, considering that I had signups at my site after you said there were not processing

Verification Please

rodme_him · 05-24-2004, 08:07 PM

yep, my payment page is gone now, silly me -- shouldn't have asked a question of them

rodme_him · 05-24-2004, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rodme_him
yep, my payment page is gone now, silly me -- shouldn't have asked a question of them

I got this info from their site

Credit Card Transactions (May 20):
Please note that we no longer take credit card transactions if you do not have your own Merchant Account, in order to apply for your own Merchant Account, please contact [email protected].

Your recurring will continue to run beginning of next week, please note this does not effect clients with their own Merchant Account, or any of our alternative billing clients in any way.

Hope that helped

icedemon · 05-24-2004, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hagancashnews
as an ex-2000Charge employee, all i have to say is "good luck"!!

When did you leave? You one of the only guys that responded from 2000charge when ever someone sent you a email.

WWC-Hagan · 05-24-2004, 08:52 PM

Hi Atlas, Pamporn, IceDemon, and everyone else

That's true, I am no longer with 2000Charge.com. It has been about a week or so. Thanks for the complements, I try!

Sorry you can't get a hold of anyone, that totally sucks. I am now in charge of affiliate programs at cashnews.com. Check us out!

Big E · 05-25-2004, 09:32 AM

So it's just credit cards, right? Looks like EuroDebit stuff is still processing.. ? Are there any other options besides 2k for european debit cards?

05-19-2004, 04:25 PM	#1
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	2000Charge - No Third Party Processing Just in case anyone is processing with 2000Charge, - they have stopped 3rd party billing, alledgely since the 18th of this month, but in practice since the 15th - they just did not care to mention this to anyone. You may.. or most likely, may not, have had any email or other notification from them. This was one of these subject they prefer to not mention to webmasters. Once again... ya can't afford to trust any third party processors with recurring billing (since that control is often not within their hands) nor any purveyors of merchant accounts where the situation is really the same, but with extended risk to the client. Sorry to any folks who just lost their recurring, once again Now... it's time for another look at "real billing":-)

05-19-2004, 04:32 PM	#3
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05-20-2004, 12:50 PM	#12
WWC-Hagan Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: WorldWideContent.com - Los Angeles, CA Posts: 78	as an ex-2000Charge employee, all i have to say is "good luck"!! __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

05-20-2004, 03:03 PM	#15
Don/Atlas Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Posts: 144	I just tried to call them. Aint nobody home. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

05-20-2004, 03:06 PM	#16
chri$tian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,468	Does anyone else think that this is a TOTAL ASS FUCK.... No call, no email, no return phone calls... no notification AT ALL... They had to see this coming. It's AMAZING to me that a company can just do this and not make a statement. We use them for backup billing and Euro and bill a make good amount every month. (our wire never showed up on the 15th either) We have 30+ sites that use them and have to be changed, thought we should wait to hear from someone over there before we removed all the code) __________________ http://www.3dsex.com

05-19-2004, 04:28 PM	#2
nudecanada Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 793	Wow, another one gone. Thanks for the heads up. "Now... it's time for another look at "real billing":-)" Such as?

05-19-2004, 04:37 PM	#7
AdultMovies.bz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Your Mum's House Posts: 1,036	And no money is going to be released either... I just got this back from them: Hello Stan, We apologize, but the funds are frozen by the bank and we will release them as soon as the bank releases them to us. Let me know if I can further assist you. Regards Ines 2000Charge

05-20-2004, 03:36 PM	#18
Don/Atlas Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Posts: 144	this cant be too good. http://www.2000charge.com/ __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

05-20-2004, 03:48 PM	#19
Pamporn Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NOT in the USA! Posts: 280	Of course it ain't good. We are fucked and that's it. Time to move on, again. Ig hagan is gone from 2kcharge then 2kcharge doesn't exist anymore. __________________ Angel ICQ 112982517 50% RevShare for your Celebrity Traffic with Pamporn.Com

05-20-2004, 03:58 PM	#21
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05-24-2004, 08:00 PM	#22
rodme_him Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 51	Guys, I think you need to look at the site again, 2000Charge is still up and running, considering that I had signups at my site after you said there were not processing Verification Please __________________ <center> <b>A good webmaster is a happy webmaster</b> </center>

05-24-2004, 08:07 PM	#23
rodme_him Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 51	yep, my payment page is gone now, silly me -- shouldn't have asked a question of them __________________ <center> <b>A good webmaster is a happy webmaster</b> </center>

05-24-2004, 08:52 PM	#26
WWC-Hagan Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: WorldWideContent.com - Los Angeles, CA Posts: 78	Hi Atlas, Pamporn, IceDemon, and everyone else That's true, I am no longer with 2000Charge.com. It has been about a week or so. Thanks for the complements, I try! Sorry you can't get a hold of anyone, that totally sucks. I am now in charge of affiliate programs at cashnews.com. Check us out! __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

05-25-2004, 09:32 AM	#27
Big E Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 935	So it's just credit cards, right? Looks like EuroDebit stuff is still processing.. ? Are there any other options besides 2k for european debit cards?