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Old 05-18-2004, 12:55 PM   #1
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Fake Sarin Shell

shell explodes in Iraq - or does it? While sources are reporting that a shell filled with sarin "misfired" earlier today, the chemistry of sarin gas leads to believe otherwise. According to agonist, sarin has an exceedingly short shelf life. To extend it, Iraq made binary bombs that contained only one component. The secondary component needed to be added at the last minute - by hand! In other words, the "botched" sarin shell likely contained only isopropynol - which we use in a mildly diluted form as rubbing alcohol


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Old 05-18-2004, 01:04 PM   #2
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It's probably fake... Bush is just grabbing for votes.
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:09 PM   #3
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shell explodes in Iraq - or does it? While sources are reporting that a shell filled with sarin "misfired" earlier today, the chemistry of sarin gas leads to believe otherwise. According to agonist, sarin has an exceedingly short shelf life. To extend it, Iraq made binary bombs that contained only one component. The secondary component needed to be added at the last minute - by hand! In other words, the "botched" sarin shell likely contained only isopropynol - which we use in a mildly diluted form as rubbing alcohol


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Thats.. sad. This is the huge WMD all the papers and news shows were talking about?
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:14 PM   #4
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Thats.. sad. This is the huge WMD all the papers and news shows were talking about?
Yep, they keep hammering it on Fox

Edit: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120268,00.html
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:15 PM   #5
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It's probably fake... Bush is just grabbing for votes.
All that needed to be said.
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:18 PM   #6
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For those that missed the nuance ...

"A little drop on your skin will kill you" IN THE BINARY FORM, said Ret. Air Force Col. Randall Larsen


See that? IN BINARY FORM ...

Now how many people will see this crutial difference ???
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:29 PM   #7
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wow look hydrogen and oxygen
they can make bombs!
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:32 PM   #8
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Where are all the Bush supporters when I'm trying to pick a fight
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:56 PM   #9
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Nice try. In the yahoo article you linked it says two soldiers suffered symptoms consistent with low level exposure to sarin. It also says because of how the shell was rigged the two components in the shell did not mix properly upon detonation. Nowhere in anything you posted did it say only one of the chemicals was present.
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Old 05-18-2004, 02:00 PM   #10
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You are also incorrect about how binary shells work. In binary shells there are two chambers each holding one of the two necessary ingredients for sarin. The two chemicals are mixed together either right before firing or while in flight.
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Old 05-18-2004, 02:01 PM   #11
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Where are all the Bush supporters when I'm trying to pick a fight
given your past completely moronic posts, you're not worth the attention.
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Old 05-18-2004, 02:01 PM   #12
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Bush would do anything to proove his point and get votes ... he already lied about everything why wouldn't he make up something
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I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
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Old 05-18-2004, 02:02 PM   #13
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Bush is a liar... fake ..
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Old 05-18-2004, 02:03 PM   #14
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Whatever it was, the US should move it's troops from the area around North Korea to deal with it. Who cares about the nukes those guys are producing and selling.
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Old 05-18-2004, 02:10 PM   #15
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The remaining "Bush supporters" are just the people who are too thick skulled to ever consider changing their minds or admitting when they're wrong. Plain and simple, real conservatives don't support this administration. The few remaining supporters can't name a single good thing Bush has done, only that we're wrong about absolutely everything. Of yeah, so are the facts. All these damn facts clearly have an agenda.

Good thing we only have a couple more months of this nonsense. I don't like Kerry but at least he's a reasonable person who won't try to govern based on ideology.
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Old 05-18-2004, 02:13 PM   #16
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America pollutes Iraq with radioactive/chemical weapons daily, shells made with depleted uranium, but you justify it by questionable traces of expired sarin dating back to the Iran/Iraq war? (which we probably paid for)
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Old 05-18-2004, 03:11 PM   #17
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You are also incorrect about how binary shells work. In binary shells there are two chambers each holding one of the two necessary ingredients for sarin. The two chemicals are mixed together either right before firing or while in flight.
I love the FoxNews Chemical Scientist in you
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Old 05-18-2004, 03:17 PM   #18
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America pollutes Iraq with radioactive/chemical weapons daily, shells made with depleted uranium, but you justify it by questionable traces of expired sarin dating back to the Iran/Iraq war? (which we probably paid for)
Indeed.

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