YES, if this happens then there will less women in the world being produced and far less choices for all men.. seeing the children in numbers will drop off over time. and then the schools will close down and etc.. the chain of events will be huge on a long term scale.. if there less couples in the world having children what do you think is going to happen other than test tube grown babes?
we want to keep things natural in the world..
this is another no,no.. but another topic.


next. whats your opinion on this. ?:2 cents:

Race-mixing was considered equally unnatural, and was equally unpopular, but ultimately it will be an issue of civil liberties. The outcome will be the same; government cannot give benefits to some and deny the same benefits to others based on race or sex.

If it is your opinion that 'marriage' is a religious thing, then the government never should have endorsed it to begin with. The government and religion must remain seperate.

IMO we should have had 'secular civil unions' (recognized by the government) and 'religious marriages' (recognized by the church) for all committing couples of all orientations; with only the secular union granting special legal rights, and leave the religious 'marriage' ceremonial bs optional.

But too late now, the government decided to call their status-granting "marriage" too. So religionists will have to deal with it. In the law of this country, liberty superceeds religion.

People have been getting 'married' since before any religion that exists today was invented. There have been a lot of wacky versions of marriage a lot worse than two socially-equal people of the same-sex marrying for love. At its core, the purpose of marriage is to make previously unrelated people a family, and the familys people choose to form are personal and private.

What a friggin OxyMoron!

Well fuck! If a couple of black people on tv said "fuck that shit" in regards to gay marriage..then it has to be wrong!!

Gawd..what a moron! :1orglaugh

I lean on your last verse family "making families" and children are involved and innocence of children perhaps are broken..

not some guy in drag wearing a wedding dress thinking it's cool to be gay and married.. like I said it's a FAD and will subside in time.. (there all doing monkey see monkey do) there all saying lets have a gay wedding and a big party after words thats all.
It's the cool thing for them too do now..
or they just die off some how.. ?

whats your word on this.. :2 cents:

next.

The ignorance of the religious right is shown by what they say and how they say it. It's amazing that when pressed for ONE concrete thing that would be WRONG about gay marriage, they can never come up with anything.

You get terms like this: "there is.. morally there's a break down in society" What the fuck are you talking about dood? WHAT morals? Whose morals?? What break down specifically takes place..and who in society is affected and HOW?

You have nothing..nothing..but worn out slogans that were big back in the 50's & 60's about black people.

god didnt make anything.

christians scare me more than homos.

shove that god up your homophobic ass.

the blacks, inthe 50's/60's it was the white/black thing giong around the old KKK shit.. not the gay/lebzo shit flying..

it was a difference only in colour not beliefs in religions..
the black people inhole are more religous then whites actually percap in the USA.. where talking about samesex marriage..

not about black people or asians or any other race.. were talking morals and were slowly loosing them.. :2 cents:


anyone else.. :2 cents:

Ok..you can't be serious..you have to be totally joking about this crap. If not, then you have entered the world of "theking" & "sexped" oblivious to the REAL world that exists around them.

Less women..less children..test tubes..all brought about by gay marriage...:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Keep posting Jive! You prove the religious right are as inane as the Ku Klux Klan and other extremists!

the day and ages changed so much from early beliefs, i believe if people love each other, why not marry who cares about the genders, heck half of "what is looked upon as normal marriages" dont even last.

Stasia Styles

50 shaving sponsors (did i get that right?)

running off of topic and witch handle from the dozen or so you use often?

could you please give us a list of those 50 shaving sponsors your talking about thankyou? so I can and it to my shitlist please.

lets not sway off topic to often,and thanks for your poor senseless input globalfrauds all from http://globaldialers.com

and what shaving sponsor are you representing?

((lets get back to what's your input on samesex marriages?))

I have no problem with lesbian and gays but I think people should think this over.

the gay/lezbo population is growing to rapidly and is outta control
if you look back at the past 40-50 years theres some major shit that needs to be straighten out pronto.. put them back in the closet where they belong.. they think it;s okay and excepted thinking the normal people only think of it as another form of kink
or some fetish stuff it's not..

A gaymale is acting like a women yet he still want to be a man?
why not just get a sex change instead he wants to have his cake and eat it too.. :2 cents:
the lesbian is pretending to be a man why fake it? live it for real
get a dick perminently graffed on..

what say you? anyone..

Do you think same sex marriages will last forever when some traditional marriages fail?

NO! and there's no contribution to society either..

I'll tell you something I don't agree with this gay/lesbian stuff.

I have a family member that's gay and we speak regularly he knows I don't jive over his shit..
he mentioned to me he was trying to buy some place a new home in a townhouse developement but turned him down because he was gay. he was balling his eyes out because of his gender and the homes weren't cheap and he has alot of money they told him they wanted families to live in the complex..

this is something to look at and I never new there were restrictions in certain cities . :winkwink:

anyone else..

I think anyone who would deny a gay couple the right to get married is a bigot.

:2 cents:

talk to Bush about that one.

next anyone else.. :2 cents:

Bush is a bigot.

I was walking down the street one fine evening from having a few cocktails when suddenly a tranny was asking me if I wanted a good time? I was flattered also to find out it was my next door neighbor from when I lived downtown vancouver many years ago
he was gay he said that selling himself male prostitute and a gay didn't pay the bills/rent and he decided to fly as a tranny instead..??

I was shocked when he told me alot of his close friends made aliving outta the tranny look on the streets again I was shocked..

our westend use to be the capital of gays now there going for the tranny look I guess..?

I guess there's battling it on the streets against the real women!
he.he.



next anyone else.. :2 cents:

I think gays and lesbos have the right to be what they are. But for actually marrying one of the same sex is totally stupid IMO.

Did you have a good time or not? :1orglaugh

Same sex marriage? I don't think it's gonna work out. We can't really tell, some like to take the risk and some won't just give it a try,

Everybody here misses the point that marriage is a christian ritual.Christian say being gay is wrong according to their religion,so there is no point in marrying beside you are some fag who has nothing to do beside forcing your "rights" all day without thinking. :2 cents:

I see now here's a guy that did his home work! I salute you!
I know this topic is a touchy one but I don't start threads to often
but it was one that I wanted to know ingeneral how the public thought about this?

I took a break last night from this to hit the ocean and do some fishing before our sun disappeared with my son.. seeing i'm on the west coast and the weathers good.. anyways

anyone else.. :2 cents:

well Mr. friction, there was nothin happening only you trippin over your distorded mind..

the points i'm making and everyone else is there opinions..

I remember back in 95-97 there were hardly if any tranny sites online and the real tranny population was very few and farless
in North America so what i'm getting at was the gaymale prostitutes are coming from the gay area mainly and there getting tit jobs etc.. like I said Vancouver is the melting pot for gay and lesbians in canada. the tranny numbers are booming the gay are dressing like trannys so there are infacted there's less women on the streets.. "times are changing"

lastly I don't need to have any fun and pay for it?
I have my own club and I have my own hoes and there women.

anyways what say you..:2 cents:

I disagree.

Although marriage is a Christian ritual, the symbolic joining of two partners for "life" affords them in the eyes of the law certain rights.

Married couples have rights to pensions do not have to pay inheritance tax on property passed between them when one dies and have access to hospital records. These are just a few among about 1000 special rights that married couples get.

All gays/lesbians want is equality. The "marriage" is just a tag for equal rights in the eyes of the law.

I was waiting for someone to bring up "equality" but there not equal to us? there wanting the same thing but there seperate from us and there morals are alot differrent and are doing wrong by natures standards they've "crossed the line" my opinion..

anyone else. come on people what say you? :eatmouse

You only believe it's "wrong" and "against nature" because that is what you've been brought up to believe.

There are other people in this world that are smart enough not to blindly believe everything they are told. The type of people that know how to use "they're" "you're" and even that weird thing, "common sense".

Doesn't christianity also teach that masturbation is wrong? Anal is most definitely wrong, sex before marriage is wrong, fantasizing about anyone bar your husband/wife is wrong, displaying your goods for the world to see is wrong... yet here you are, an adult webmaster endorsing/promoting all of these.

Aren't YOU going "against nature"?
Aren't YOU assisting the breakdown of the "moral fibre"?

Son, you might be legally retarded.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Now if there was a god, that might be true, but there's not proof that he existed, except for a great fictional book!

jDoG

I agree with you 100% personaly I detest religion. It's man-made and does nothing but anger people and cause wars. I beleive there is a God and I believe God created us to evolve. There is nothing wrong withs gays in my view. The reason for Adam and Eve was to create a large population of people and frankly they did one hell of a job and now we've got way too many people then we know what to do with. Who's to say some of humanity is evolving to become gay to balance out reproduction couples?

On another note homosexuality has always been around since the beginning of time. If you don't believe me then do some research yourself. It shows up in every era of time, every culture and for both sexes. This is no new topic. And like Enema said; it's not the idea of a Christian wedding... it's being able to be an equal couple and in today's society it means ot be able to marry and have the same rights.

you know why? it's called risk! we if were normal and get hitched
have children and there's growth in the family
social gathering you know xmas time grandma/grandpa from both parents show up etc.. a chain of events are occuring if you have samesex parents wheres the the chain of future events coming from may I ask? you as the parent are suppose to growup and get old and be that grandma or grand-parent.. duh?:winkwink:

if your a samesex parent "OMG" then where's the kids or family?

there's hardly any risk for samesex marriages if they don't like it they break up.. easy as 123.. there only hurting themselves not the hole family because there isn't any.. if BUSH ban this perfect!

anyone still wanting to be inline for a samesex marriage go to another country move there! :winkwink:

Why does everybody care about marriage? I'm sure a same sex marriage would last a hell of a lot longer than 90% of the different sex marriages. In today's society, atleast in the us, marriage is a toy. Once you get bored, you get rid of it! People getting married 5, 6, hell 10 times! Common, we don't respect the thought of marriage anymore! Marriage doesn't have the same meaning it had years ago, and not many of them last! Yet we're worried about a couple of homosexuals getting married.

I think the reason nobody wants the gays to get married is because they know that the gays will last a shit load longer than any straight marriages. It's sad, but I'm just about sure they would!

jDoG

This country always has, and always will, abide by the Bill of Rights on a selective basis. If it's convenient politically at the time, then certain rights for a certain group will be given. If it is more politically beneficial for those rights to be denied, then they will be denied.

I don't believe this country will ever 'legalize' gay marriage on a national or constitutional level. There are too many conservative christian people in office and voting for those who are in office. Whether we like it or not, religion plays a part in our government and affects every American's life on some level.

What's amazing to me is the blatant hypocracy of it all. These so called christians with their superior morals defending the sanctity of marriage, when all along the divorce rate in this country is approaching 75% or more.

I don't think this is really about god? its' if the world is ready to this sorta of discusting/crap. I still don't see the equality there.

as far as the the samesex thing is purely a fad.. yes homo'sa and lesbian relationships have been around along time but they were
no obligations *flings* that was that.. the socalled equality has hidden in the closet because society doesn't like it and except it yet.. like I said I have a family member and he was pretty much thrown out of the family treated differently because the elders didn't see him as a man..I try to keep the religion principals outta this.. but the churches don't really want to be on hte hot seat for htis and there letting the marriages fly so there won't be fighting
amongst the public. they look back at it as gods mixed up flock
I guess. he.he. i'm not sure.. :)

well what say you..?

you're a fucking idiot.

STEP away from the crack! Turn around and slowly walk away from the crack! "black people inhole are more religous then whites"

Not that you ever come up with GRAND generalizations or anything! :1orglaugh

your not stating your opinion on this topic!

and it's everyones opinion I see you don't have one..

then move the fuck on looser!.. :1orglaugh

next anyone else..:2 cents:

you must have completely ignored my post, as i did state not only my opinion but some facts, something you have yet to do. all of your posts are nothing more than gay bashing based on your own personal beliefs, and have nothing to do with the legality or non-legality of gay marriage. you are the poster boy for what is wrong with this country when it comes to civil rights & liberties.

Your great at throwing around generalizatons and platitudes (albeit..STUPID ones!).

Stop the bullshit absurdity posts where you're just trying to get a re-action from everyone. If you are REALLY serious, and are against same sex marriage, just give me ONE concrete example (note..not a generalization or quote from the religious right), of HOW and WHY same sex marriage will affect YOU and/or ANY heterosexual married couples please!

CONCRETE EXAMPLE!