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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-16-2004, 09:41 AM

Your a fucken "Wanna be designer" if you dont make galleries for 10.00 bucks each!

How ya like that attitude thats going around now that ya whored your cheap asses out looking for lunch money?

Draw your own conclusions but I wouldy say ya guys are getting pimp slapped now

Webasic · 05-16-2004, 09:44 AM

The Truth Hurts · 05-16-2004, 09:45 AM

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-16-2004, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
$10?

Awright less than 10 bucks each

Or even free cuz you will get "recognition" or "respect"!

OMG@!

The Truth Hurts · 05-16-2004, 09:54 AM

who does shit for $10.. that's mad low for anything other than amateurish simple 1 pagers.. and even then, still low.

also, recognition is overrated.

Platinumpimp · 05-16-2004, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
who does shit for $10.. that's mad low for anything other than amateurish simple 1 pagers.. and even then, still low.

also, recognition is overrated.

No shit. Real good gallery designers that know what they are doing charge $35-$50

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-16-2004, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
who does shit for $10.. that's mad low for anything other than amateurish simple 1 pagers.. and even then, still low.

also, recognition is overrated.

Thats why I like you TTH, we do see eye to eye on the important things

10 Bucks per gallery is out there, I just rather not drop names that will cause further insult to people I try and help in keeping a steady bar for there creative efforts.

xxxoutsourcing · 05-16-2004, 10:01 AM

The Truth Hurts · 05-16-2004, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
Thats why I like you TTH, we do see eye to eye on the important things

10 Bucks per gallery is out there, I just rather not drop names that will cause further insult to people I try and help in keeping a steady bar for there creative efforts.

i could see $10 for a simple thumb table with a Splat>Edges applied to an outer frame and an extremely simple logo.. i've seen hundreds of those. they can't take more than 10 minutes to make, chop and code. anything more complicated than that and $10 SHOULD be a fucking insult to whomever is charging it.

machinegunkelly · 05-16-2004, 10:05 AM

I've seen $5 galleries ..
Scary stuff ..

I agree totally alien;)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-16-2004, 10:12 AM

Just reading around somethis morning and now gallery designers are gettin there asses torn up.

The real reason there asses are getting torn up is because the price is so cheap there is no fucking respect for the effort.

And you can bet right now some new designer trying to make a name for himself is slogging way large amounts of over time and detailing for a lousy 10 bucks per.

I feelbad for them guys and just want em to see that a matter respect is not earned when your getting raped.

NickPapageorgio · 05-16-2004, 10:14 AM

I may be new...but I am not idiot. $9 per was retarded. I don't care how many flames I get behind telling someone their prices are too low...fuck it.

xxxoutsourcing · 05-16-2004, 10:16 AM

Cheap labour rules, that's why we can do cheap galleries that work for our clients and they keep coming back for more...

Don't hate the player hate the game!

Platinumpimp · 05-16-2004, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing
Cheap labour rules, that's why we can do cheap galleries that work for our clients and they keep coming back for more...

Don't hate the player hate the game!

Mostly these designers don't know what they are doing, sorry. 99% of $10 galleries are made quick (possibly even templated) and won't convert very well. Especially when it comes to galleries you need to be specific.

And oneliners like "don't have the player hate the game" we have seen enough here..LOL =)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-16-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing
Cheap labour rules, that's why we can do cheap galleries that work for our clients and they keep coming back for more...

Don't hate the player hate the game!

I seen your asses get called out 1 to many times already.
So you don't really count in this discussion.
Ya get what ya pay for is something of note.

prostock · 05-16-2004, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
I seen your asses get called out 1 to many times already.
So you don't really count in this discussion.
Ya get what ya pay for is something of note.

you are almost 100 % right ONE TIME ONE TIME ONLY there was a fuck up and go back and read , so bitch take your punk ass down the road , go do a search before you let your ass over ride your keyboard again !

Platinumpimp · 05-16-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by prostock
before you let your ass over ride your keyboard again !

ChewbaCreative · 05-16-2004, 10:39 AM

waitin' for a 5 bucks gallery

xxxoutsourcing · 05-16-2004, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
Mostly these designers don't know what they are doing, sorry. 99% of $10 galleries are made quick (possibly even templated) and won't convert very well. Especially when it comes to galleries you need to be specific.

And oneliners like "don't have the player hate the game" we have seen enough here..LOL =)

1) Wrong, no templates galleries all made from scratch all custom based on client requirements no matter how specific those requirements maybe.
2) All design work done by us is now fully supervised by us (westerners) and represents our own collective know how which has come from over 10 years in the industry.
3) It's not about $10 galleries being made quick, but have the resources to delivery a speedy solution that works.

...again don't hate the player hate the game!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-16-2004, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing
1) Wrong, no templates galleries all made from scratch all custom based on client requirements no matter how specific those requirements maybe.
2) All design work done by us is now fully supervised by us (westerners) and represents our own collective know how which has come from over 10 years in the industry.
3) It's not about $10 galleries being made quick, but have the resources to delivery a speedy solution that works.

...again don't hate the player hate the game!

You little spamming bitch its not about pricing.

Its about respect and being a chump in the neighbor hood.

Your one of the chumps.
I been through your portfolio and still "You get what you paid for " severely applies to your business model.

Wait till one of your designers get a clue, rats fleeing a sinking ship is in your business models future.

For now though paying them pennies will work, however this discussion is not so much about price but respect. Realising what respect is and being a chump is not easy.

I see alot of CHump designers these days and some of em are pretty good and the measure of respect is zero, its back slapping for getting raped.

xxxoutsourcing · 05-16-2004, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
You little spamming bitch its not about pricing.

Its about respect and being a chump in the neighbor hood.

Your one of the chumps.
I been through your portfolio and still "You get what you paid for " severely applies to your business model.

Wait till one of your designers get a clue, rats fleeing a sinking ship is in your business models future.

For now though paying them pennies will work, however this discussion is not so much about price but respect. Realising what respect is and being a chump is not easy.

I see alot of CHump designers these days and some of em are pretty good and the measure of respect is zero, its back slapping for getting raped.

You sound like an insecure child running around worrying about YOUR business model.

Instead of ranting, give me an example of what you would consider to be a 'get what you pay for' piece of work in our portfolio.

I tell you what, you keep posting all you like. Fact is, our clients ARE happy with their ROI on the work we do and rest assured, we WILL continue to take away business from your scrawny little ass.

...Let the one man band continue to sing

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-16-2004, 02:26 PM

Chorus.

NickPapageorgio · 05-16-2004, 02:28 PM

Humming along...

ella · 05-16-2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by ChewbaCreative
waitin' for a 5 bucks gallery

don't say that twice, we might actually see it.

pixelpusher · 05-16-2004, 02:47 PM

Any half decent designer will soon stop charging pocket change for his work. If you valuate your time and have mouths to feed $10 bucks for even moving your finger is cheap.
I don't think even someone in Asia can say that decent custom designed tgp is worth $10 or less. It's waaaaay to cheap.
One thing is to have low prices, cuz you're not famous or something. Other thing is to bring the market down with this insane quotes.

Roald · 05-16-2004, 03:10 PM

See sig.

Nah seriously, I am with you on this one.

DrewKole · 05-16-2004, 03:14 PM

Erm, who cares if people are charging $10 for galleries.

They're either 1) low quality galleries or 2) Happy with the time vs. income that they are making creating those galleries.

Maybe they're happy with the money they're making, maybe they feel that if they raised their price they wouldn't get as much business.

Either way,

Create superb galleries, post examples in pertinent threads, and you'll get business.

I've payed up to $75 per gallery design, other people do too.

You won't get more business by constantly bitching at the people that charge less than you, spend that time constructively creating a better gallery portfolio.

eroswebmaster · 05-16-2004, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ

Or even free cuz you will get "recognition" or "respect"!

OMG@!

I hope this last part is not directed at me.

I for one am one of the only gallery makers around here who has raised his prices and has not had to stoop to dropping them to extreme levels to continue business...that can't be said by some of the others around here...in fact I have raised my prices twice since January.

I am booked right now and have been steady booked since January with some of the biggest companies in this biz.

I don't need respect or recognition, I saw a challenge that wasn't being met by any others on this board so I threw my gauntlet down.

Anyway, don't wanna piss with you not even sure if you were pissing with me

but this whole thing of charging less than $10 per gallery is utterly fucking ridiculous...and then to go and drop it to $6.00 because you're so desperate to win that job....LOL too fucking funny.

You could have had it for $9.00 *which is still chump change*.

If you can win the job based on a low *INTRODUCTORY* price good for you. But if the only way you can keep it is by maintaining that ridiculously low price...good luck.

eroswebmaster · 05-16-2004, 03:33 PM

Also these people are good for my business. They learn the hard way that you do get what you pay for, and then when they come to me they gladly pay what I'm asking without thinking twice.

Some of my best customers were your customers.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-16-2004, 04:34 PM

If I wanted to do galleries I would do galleries, I get tons of gallery requests and turn em away.

I think I have even referred Eros a couple times as a guy that does a great job

Again now that some folks are doing galleries for 10 Bucks they are getting clowned by not posting for gallery requests!

Just by not posting in certain threads and now peep's calling some of you "Wanna Be's" clearly your NOT getting a level of respect.

I am trying to point out one of the reasons why.

You charge like a cheap whore you get treated like a cheap whore.

Get it?

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Just reading around somethis morning and now gallery designers are gettin there asses torn up. The real reason there asses are getting torn up is because the price is so cheap there is no fucking respect for the effort. And you can bet right now some new designer trying to make a name for himself is slogging way large amounts of over time and detailing for a lousy 10 bucks per. I feelbad for them guys and just want em to see that a matter respect is not earned when your getting raped. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

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DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Erm, who cares if people are charging $10 for galleries. They're either 1) low quality galleries or 2) Happy with the time vs. income that they are making creating those galleries. Maybe they're happy with the money they're making, maybe they feel that if they raised their price they wouldn't get as much business. Either way, Create superb galleries, post examples in pertinent threads, and you'll get business. I've payed up to $75 per gallery design, other people do too. You won't get more business by constantly bitching at the people that charge less than you, spend that time constructively creating a better gallery portfolio.

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	If I wanted to do galleries I would do galleries, I get tons of gallery requests and turn em away. I think I have even referred Eros a couple times as a guy that does a great job Again now that some folks are doing galleries for 10 Bucks they are getting clowned by not posting for gallery requests! Just by not posting in certain threads and now peep's calling some of you "Wanna Be's" clearly your NOT getting a level of respect. I am trying to point out one of the reasons why. You charge like a cheap whore you get treated like a cheap whore. Get it? __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|