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Old 05-14-2004, 10:15 PM   #1
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do you believe in fate?

I think that it is very illogical not to believe in fate.

This is so for a simple reason:

The conventional meaning of Believing in fate is that you believe everything that happens is already predetermined.

If you believe in fate, you assume that everything is predetermined.

Can a person really not believe in fate? I think not.

Let's say that you question the existense of fate. That act in itself is predetermined by fate. The very act of questioning the existense of fate is a part of fate.

The act of you questioning the above statement is also predetermined by fate.

So clearly, there is no way that there is no fate, because any future outcome, no matter what choice we make, is already set and the out act of making any choice whatsoever, whether it is to believe in fate, not believe in fate, accept fate, or no even care about fate, is predetermined by fate.

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Old 05-14-2004, 10:18 PM   #2
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i dont belive in it, i wouldnt be where i'm at if it was up to fate
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:20 PM   #3
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So if i buy a plane ticket, knock on your trailer, punch you in the face, that is fate?
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:22 PM   #4
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:23 PM   #5
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I was having a simular conversation in regards to the universe... no matter what theory of creation you believe in big bang for example, or dust ball .. it had to come from something,

which came from something which started as nothing and how can the universe be created from nothing and yet this is possible which means that as miraculas as that is thier is a high probability that God exists (God is the most powerful energy force) I believe in a scientific explanation for God..

so if there is a God then its possible that the revelations in the bible will come to pass and we are about to enter the 7 years of trials and tribulations..and were all gonna die so live it up
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:27 PM   #6
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I was having a simular conversation in regards to the universe... no matter what theory of creation you believe in big bang for example, or dust ball .. it had to come from something,

which came from something which started as nothing and how can the universe be created from nothing and yet this is possible which means that as miraculas as that is thier is a high probability that God exists (God is the most powerful energy force) I believe in a scientific explanation for God..

so if there is a God then its possible that the revelations in the bible will come to pass and we are about to enter the 7 years of trials and tribulations..and were all gonna die so live it up
I feel sorry for you. Its not your fault tho.
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:29 PM   #7
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:31 PM   #8
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So if i buy a plane ticket, knock on your trailer, punch you in the face, that is fate?
yes, that is correct. i'm actually happy that you understand what it is
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:32 PM   #9
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I was having a simular conversation in regards to the universe... no matter what theory of creation you believe in big bang for example, or dust ball .. it had to come from something,

which came from something which started as nothing and how can the universe be created from nothing and yet this is possible which means that as miraculas as that is thier is a high probability that God exists (God is the most powerful energy force) I believe in a scientific explanation for God..

so if there is a God then its possible that the revelations in the bible will come to pass and we are about to enter the 7 years of trials and tribulations..and were all gonna die so live it up
A lot of people believe that...
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:33 PM   #10
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I won't let fate rule my life.
how wouldn't you let it ? the fact that you're 'not letting it' is in itself fate.

I think this is too complicated for some of you..
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:35 PM   #11
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i dont belive in it, i wouldnt be where i'm at if it was up to fate
every act or action that you have taken a part in to get to where you are is FATE.

there is nothing bad about fate.. the choices you make whether you think they are fate controled or you're in control are in fact fate themselves.

this is too hard for you too understand ?
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:36 PM   #12
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it's actually mind boggling how this can be soo hard to understand
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:36 PM   #13
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I think everything happens for a reason....
yeah i agree on you Nanda..................

everything that is happening has a reason,

you might lose a penny and that would be your last money,,,, i feel sorry for you but there's a reason behind that............

you might want this girl, you courted her for a long time and have a feeling she'll be yours but in the end she busted you... there's a reason behind that......

everything thats happening to us has a meaning and everything you think that's a failure will have a good luck.........

believe us on this............
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Old 05-15-2004, 01:35 AM   #14
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whatever I type in here, you'll say its fate. how can we win with that?
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Old 05-15-2004, 03:59 AM   #15
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I believe in cause and effect and Karma. We make our own fate every moment!
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Old 05-15-2004, 04:08 AM   #16
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OK I'm Hammered right now, but try to keep up with my twisted thoughts;

Fate is definately real, If you haven't noticed yet open your eyes. Karma is legit shit, Everything comes back to you.

I'm sure everyone here has had random undeniable strokes of bad luck for no apparant reason if they habiutally "sin", I know I sure have.

I quoted sin for the non religious people who feel they are thinking logically, But religious or not... You know fate is real, There is so much we don't understand

Belive me or not, tonight at the keg party we were at we were playing 3 man which is a dice game, I closed my eyes and concentrated on a number.. Just like flicking a switch, I concentrated on a digit with my eyes closed and at least 80% of the time I predicted what number was going to be rolled and 100% of the time I was 1 or 2 off

Don't belive me? Whatever, I wouldn't lie about this shit

I'm just here to encourage people to read between the lines & see what isn't visible, some people honestly have this gift

If you think I'm crazy, that's fine with me because I am

But it's only because I have opened my mind to untaught possibilities

I am telepathic, psychic, whatever... It's all mind over matter, It's mind over apparant reality
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Old 05-15-2004, 04:16 AM   #17
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Intellect annuls fate. So far as a man thinks, he is free.
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Old 05-15-2004, 04:25 AM   #18
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how wouldn't you let it ? the fact that you're 'not letting it' is in itself fate.

I think this is too complicated for some of you..

Well, isn't it nice to blame all your mistakes on fate?
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Old 05-15-2004, 04:27 AM   #19
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So if i buy a plane ticket, knock on your trailer, punch you in the face, that is fate?
LMAO! Thats some shitty fate.
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Old 05-15-2004, 04:28 AM   #20
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But it's only because I have opened my mind to untaught possibilities

I am telepathic, psychic, whatever... It's all mind over matter, It's mind over apparant reality
If the story describing your 'psychic gift' begins with, "Tonight at the keg party...", something tells me it may not be telepathy responsible for your magical powers.
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Old 05-15-2004, 04:29 AM   #21
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If the story describing your 'psychic gift' begins with, "Tonight at the keg party...", something tells me it may not be telepathy responsible for your magical powers.
Yeah I figured you guys would think that, but like I said.. If you don't belive me whatever I'm not lying, that's why I threw in the fact I was drinking, I had only had 2 or 3 beers when all this happend btw
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Old 05-15-2004, 06:06 AM   #23
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I think that it is very illogical not to believe in fate.

This is so for a simple reason:

The conventional meaning of Believing in fate is that you believe everything that happens is already predetermined.

If you believe in fate, you assume that everything is predetermined.

Can a person really not believe in fate? I think not.

Let's say that you question the existense of fate. That act in itself is predetermined by fate. The very act of questioning the existense of fate is a part of fate.

The act of you questioning the above statement is also predetermined by fate.

So clearly, there is no way that there is no fate, because any future outcome, no matter what choice we make, is already set and the out act of making any choice whatsoever, whether it is to believe in fate, not believe in fate, accept fate, or no even care about fate, is predetermined by fate.

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I think fate wants to shove my foot up your ass.
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Old 05-15-2004, 06:11 AM   #24
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I believe in cause and effect and Karma. We make our own fate every moment!

That is so true.

The problem with believing in fate is that some people take it to serious and stop working on things because what ever happends is fate.
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I think fate wants to shove my foot up your ass.
Hahaha
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Old 05-15-2004, 06:17 AM   #26
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Old 05-15-2004, 06:25 AM   #28
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Old 05-15-2004, 07:00 AM   #29
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So if i buy a plane ticket, knock on your trailer, punch you in the face, that is fate?
That is not fate, but it is funny as hell.

My view of "fate" is different.

Most people think of fate as a single predetermined future that is set in stone and no able to be changed by us.

I think of the future (and the past) as an infinite set of possibilities, all set in stone and each equally "real".

Whichever one actually comes to pass depends on our thoughts and actions. In essence we are quite capable of creating our own future and in fact do it in blissfull ignorance every day usually in a negative manner by regretting events in our past or worrying about what might happen tomorrow.

"What you fear, you create"

"Think positive" is one of the most powerful rules of life to follow.

Fuck I am starting to sound like Tony Robbins but anyway..
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