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jayeff 05-16-2004 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by Dopy
If you have good ideas or opinions keep them to yourself. The public talking days are over. Talk only to those you network or partner with, and even then limit what you say.
Rubbish! I could give you the blueprint for my business model, or you give yours to me, and we could both screw up. The technical details of how a business operates are not what makes a business succeed or fail, but the unique ways in which those details are applied by different individuals.

We are not operating mom-and-pop stores on main street in some small town (although even in the bricks and mortar world many businesses operate professional associations for the exchange of ideas and information), so the chance is close to zero that I will ever be fighting over the same surfers as you. It makes no sense to spend a large part of our lives inventing the same wheel because of the misguided idea that we are competitors.

The other excuse people come up with for not posting potentially useful information, is their unwillingness to give away something they had to work to find out. That doesn't make sense either, because even if 500 people read what you hahahahaha and never contribute in return, so what? If someone's attempt to be of help encourages even 2 others to do the same, he gets twice as much information back as he has given away.

Paul Markham 05-16-2004 07:38 AM

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Originally posted by Lenny2
There are 3 things to remember when trying to make money from galleries.

1) Content is king
2) Content is king
3) Content is king


The guy that will pay for porn is looking for one thing, to look at porn HE likes. Look at a sponsor and then find a content provider who supplies similar or the same content and if he allows it on TGP sites. Then buy the best he has.

Get the latest releases, submit them before anyone else does. Don't go for $5 sets that are 12 months old, when for $35 you could buy a set out on it's first day of release. Be the saturator not the saturated.

Paid hostings also will get your page listed on SE, we put up TGP pages for clients October through December 2003 and still getting traffic and conversions.

Stop looking for everything for free, simply because of all the other guys trying to get it for free.

But most important after getting it listed is the content and the way it turns on the paying surfer and how it matches where you want him to go and spend money.

Paul Markham 05-16-2004 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by imafuckingaussie

1. Do you think it's imperative to get the content from the paysites member area, as opposed to downloading it from the webmaster area (the webmaster one of course being exposed a lot more on the net)?


You are going to create trouble for yourself and your sponsor by taking content that is not clearly marked as available for affiliates.

Some content producers ansd their clients do not want their content on TGP sites, some do. So if you just grab it and it's later found out you could be banned and without money.

Go and buy some content, it's not like it's mega expensive and your own content wil work much better for you.

James White 05-16-2004 07:50 AM

Wow, a useful thread on GFY.. amazing.. keep it up guys!

I'm printing everything out and taking it all into consideration.

Paul Markham 05-16-2004 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by Dopy
LOL things must be bad around here if this thread can be declared as a great source of information. Looks more like stating the obvious to me.

If you have good ideas or opinions keep them to yourself. The public talking days are over. Talk only to those you network or partner with, and even then limit what you say.

Big mistake thinking boards like this are a cosy little community where you can have fun and spill a few beans. You are on your own in this business, think otherwise and the wheels will fall off.

Sounds a lot like someone not doing so well.

Ask me any question about photographing porno and I will be only to happy to answer.

Paul Markham 05-16-2004 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by jayeff
Rubbish! I could give you the blueprint for my business model, or you give yours to me, and we could both screw up. The technical details of how a business operates are not what makes a business succeed or fail, but the unique ways in which those details are applied by different individuals.


Exactly.

Selling or creating porn is not like writing a computer program. It's about making the consumer believe it was real, that it has a personality and life.

If you really want to make money in porn put "YOU" into what you are doing. Don't create it on a conveyor belt, make it personal, make it mean something, make the surfer think IT COULD HAPPEN TO HIM.

seven 05-16-2004 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by blazin
I know, I know.... but I doubt I am not the only tgp owner that does this. :)
I doubt there's any major tgp owner like you either. If you are a major you don't have time to fuss about little things like that. It's like you want a cake with icing on top and eat it too. You want free content for your site and you also want niche traffic - you're just too greedy I must say. I bet you also wnt a big ass recip on the top of each gallery too?

bignasty 05-16-2004 09:46 AM

One thing I have noticed too is that many submiters take their gallery down after a couple weeks. Leave the damn thing up, you'll still get traffic to it a year later. After a while old galleries can make some pretty good money.

Nifield 05-16-2004 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
And there are some who earn tens of thousands of dollars daily.

A few pointers and I hope others will add to it.

Having a good design isnt as important as having a good pool of partner accounts. Also being able to submit galleries consistantly helps a lot. And of course a good submit program like dreamsubmitter.com makes all the difference as well.





:thumbsup

BVF 05-16-2004 09:54 AM

putting up galleries, especially galleries with different text will pay off years down the road. I still get traffic from old galleries I ran through russian submitter back in the day. I just keep submitting and keep waiting.

You could spend four years in medical school, pay hundreds of thousands of dollars, and come out with a nice job that pays well. But if you spend 4 years in this biz working hard, you'll have your own successful "porn practice".

part of my "practice" must include a good submitter database. If you get a good database that you built yourself and get some partner submits, you'll make some money in time.

My girlfriend is about to go to work at mcdonalds for 6 an hour and she's only working four hours today....

One of my year old tgp galleries alone will make more than her.

FreeHugeMovies 05-16-2004 10:05 AM

Not using enough text to describe what they are actually getting with a membership and using banners that the affiliate program give them. Make your own banner and use text links that help sell the membership or gets that click to the sponsor.

Dopy 05-16-2004 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by charly
Sounds a lot like someone not doing so well.

Ask me any question about photographing porno and I will be only to happy to answer.


Everything you do is pretty much in the open anyway. But let?s say one day you find a way to speed up your process giving you an edge in the market. Would you run to GFY and announce it. Like hell you would.

15 apartments 3 houses and a bar here on the Island of Lanzarotte. All purchased from porn peddling. Yes that?s right I am not doing so well.

For the other comment to my post :-

Please don?t compare this with your regular business model. Internet based businesses are on a global platform where word travels far and wide fast. The rest of your post is waffle.

Pornwolf 05-16-2004 11:16 AM

Most of the posts on GFY are 'waffle' :1orglaugh

jmarzlak 05-20-2004 11:17 AM

I'm still in that second month after submiting a gallery a day where its hard to make a sale, so you guys are giving me hope. Thanks lol

Sosa 05-20-2004 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by jmarzlak
I'm still in that second month after submiting a gallery a day where its hard to make a sale, so you guys are giving me hope. Thanks lol
a few months and you still haven't got a sale??!?! :helpme

polish_aristocrat 05-20-2004 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by Sosa
a few months and you still haven't got a sale??!?! :helpme
he said 2nd month


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