Wtf? Nick Berg was an Al Qaeda operative?

[Centurion]

Don't know how many of you saw the CBS Evening news tonite (and it might have been on abc & nbc as well), but CBS did some STRONG hinting that Nick Berg was MORE than just an "innocent civilian" in Iraq.


First they brought out information that somehow the dude they captured in Minnesota known as the "20th hijacker" had access to some files/sites on the internet because he had Nick Berg's password!

And..what do you think the FBI was questioning him about when he was in custody in Iraq? Yep..that very fact!! The FBI supposedly said they let him go because it was JUST a coincidence about the password.

They hold him for 4 days or whatever it was and say it was no big deal then?

And while they didn't say it..there was a strong (or I was reading a lot into it) suggestion by CBS that POSSIBLY Berg was an Al Qaeda operative. And hmm..if he was, and they grabbed him because they were afraid he may have spilled some beans to the FBI about Al Qaeda? So then you off him on video and use him to "get back" at the abuse by Americans of Iraqi prisoners.

Kill two birds with one blade..literally?

Anyone else find this even faintly possible/resonable?

[Heywood Jablome]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119896,00.html

Weird story is weirder.

[Anna_O]

How many conspiracy theories are there about that video?

This one sounds interesting though...

[Fletch XXX]

he let a terrorist use his computer, not a very smart move.

"When Nicholas Berg took an Oklahoma bus to a remote college campus a few years ago, the American recently beheaded by terrorists allowed a man with terrorist connections to use his laptop computer, according to his father."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast...erg.encounter/

[Babel]

not really, the guy was killed to deflect people form the torture scandal

[KDizzla]

I could see that.

[bdld]

this whole situation is WAY fishy

[Centurion]

Originally posted by Heywood Jablome
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119896,00.html

Weird story is weirder.

Yeah..that's basically what CBS said. But, that link had one additional piece of information that CBS didn't broadcast:

"FBI agents interviewed Berg a few years ago when they were investigating the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, sources said. He was interviewed because, unbeknownst to him, Moussaoui had used his e-mail account when he was in Oklahoma."

So if the FBI had ALREADY interviewed Berg years ago, why the fuck would they detain him AGAIN in Iraq to go over the same crap?

[Centurion]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
he let a terrorist use his computer, not a very smart move.

"When Nicholas Berg took an Oklahoma bus to a remote college campus a few years ago, the American recently beheaded by terrorists allowed a man with terrorist connections to use his laptop computer, according to his father."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast...erg.encounter/

They were on the SAME bus together and he let him use his laptop?!?

Guess I had better read the link first!

[Blinky]

There are a dozen conspiracy theories already, and there'll be more. They can't all be true.

Unfortunately, it's been shown that the goverment / military certainly had reason to believe that his death would support their cause in a lot of ways. It's not that hard to believe that it's more than was first reported.

[Heywood Jablome]

Another twist?

Berg apparently had an Iraqi in-law in the Mosul area, according to emails to his family.

buried in the middle of http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...raq-berg_x.htm

[Centurion]

Originally posted by Centurion
They were on the SAME bus together and he let him use his laptop?!?

Guess I had better read the link first!

Ah..it was an acquaintence..

"Government sources told CNN that the encounter involved an acquaintance of Zacarias Moussaoui"

[reynold]

I knew something wasn't right the first time.

[Centurion]

Originally posted by Heywood Jablome
Another twist?


buried in the middle of http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...raq-berg_x.htm

I was just going to post something about that.

How many times is the government LIE/twist the truth here about whether or not he was in U.S. custody?

First he was (according to sources in Iraq) backed up by his father.
Then the U.S. denied it..only the Iraqi police (like THEY would know what to do with him)

And now there's TACID admission that YES, the FBI did indeed have him incarcerated and questioned him.

Frigging MOFO liars!

[AliciaK]

Originally posted by Babel
not really, the guy was killed to deflect people form the torture scandal

Yep, Wag the Dog!

[Jedimaster]

the chances of the 2 of them meeting is 5 billion times 5 billion

[Illicit]

everyone has a conspiracy theory, but no one has proof of anything

[Webasic]

This is how they clean up....rumors start getting out that the FBI/CIA were involved in his killing, next thing rumors start coming out about him being involved in Al Qaeda.

Easier for people to let go of what happened to him and stop asking questions, if they think he's one of them.

[xenophobic]

pain in the ass commented on this in another thread:

Originally posted by painintheass
Meanwhile, the family said Berg had been questioned by the FBI more than a year ago about a contact he had with a terrorism suspect in 1999, while he was a student at the University of Oklahoma in Norman.

Some reports have said the suspect may have been Sept. 11 suspect Zacarias Moussaoui, but David Berg said that is not true. Nicholas Berg only went to school there in 1999; Moussaoui enrolled in a flight school in Norman in February 2001.
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Getting too fucking weird for me.
Pain in the ass

[crockett]

I'm not being a conspiracy nut, but there is for sure much more than meets the eye with this. I mean first it's said he was in US custody then the US denies that. The family then comes up with proof and releases that today. Then add in the fact if he was in US custody why was he released and he didn't contact his family right away. I mean this guy had no contact with his family for a few weeks, and he didn't contact them when he was released? It's like he was captured by the guys that killed him as soon as he was released.

Now to top it off with this whole terrorist e-mail thing. I could blow off one or even two of these, but what are the odds that all this would happen to the same guy?

[silent moan]

Originally posted by ajpiii
everyone has a conspiracy theory, but no one has proof of anything

yeah! and the bottom line! the family of victim suffer most

[bizmak]

OMG I'm now fearing what's gonna happen next

[Loryn]

Who really knows?? If he was some how connected, the saying, "You play with fire your gonna get burned" comes to mind. Those people are never to be trusted.

Why some of you people think, or would like to think, Americans did it is just

[Sambo]

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAN3MDH7UD.html

I posted in another thread..... but it is relevent here

More fuel for the fire

[Roger]

who knows what's going on? All I can tell you for sure is that nothing is what it seems in a warzone.
Nevertheless, an Al-Qaeda operative getting beheaded by his own? I find that rather unlikely and on top of that, the guy is Jewish. I mean come on, what are the odds he's an Al-Qaeda operative?

[xenophobic]

So far the list of players include Al-Qaeda, CIA, Mossad, F.B.I, Rumsfeld, etc. pick one - stick to it?

You know when terrorists kill someone, and people start blaming government agencies for his murder, instead of where it belongs - with the terrorists, you pretty much know they've won.

Al-Qaeda loves America really, let's welcome them with Teddybears and hugs.

[Heywood Jablome]

Originally posted by Roger
who knows what's going on? All I can tell you for sure is that nothing is what it seems in a warzone.
Nevertheless, an Al-Qaeda operative getting beheaded by his own? I find that rather unlikely.

That's what Nick Berg's father thought, too.

"I am sure that he only saw the good in his captors until the last second of his life," Berg said. "They did not know what they were doing. They killed their best friend."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...dc_7&printer=1

[directfiesta]

" when there is smoke, there is fire"

[On-top]

The strangest part about this whole ordeal, that no matter what story end up settling on...we'll never know everything that really went on.

[xenophobic]

Originally posted by directfiesta
" when there is smoke, there is fire"

<I>The 26-year-old from suburban Philadelphia liked to move around so much that he took classes at four universities, and once traveled to Africa to help a village, returning with only the clothes on his back. </I>

A humanitarian who was brutally murdered, having his name dragged through the mud as being a possible terrorist, can't you just let him rest in peace?

<b>Shame.</b>

[Centurion]

Originally posted by crockett
I'm not being a conspiracy nut, but there is for sure much more than meets the eye with this. I mean first it's said he was in US custody then the US denies that. The family then comes up with proof and releases that today. Then add in the fact if he was in US custody why was he released and he didn't contact his family right away. I mean this guy had no contact with his family for a few weeks, and he didn't contact them when he was released? It's like he was captured by the guys that killed him as soon as he was released.

Now to top it off with this whole terrorist e-mail thing. I could blow off one or even two of these, but what are the odds that all this would happen to the same guy?

Just another "curve" here. His father had said that Berg wanted to go home, but got held by the military which his father was upset about as he would have been out of the country before he actually got captured.

Then TODAY, the FBI says they offered him a FREE ride out, and he turned it down!

He's broke, wants desperately to go home, and supposedly said he turned down the plane home because he thought the trip to the the airport was too dangerous. HUH?

[genomega]

Originally posted by xenophobic
<I>The 26-year-old from suburban Philadelphia liked to move around so much that he took classes at four universities, and once traveled to Africa to help a village, returning with only the clothes on his back. </I>

A humanitarian who was brutally murdered, having his name dragged through the mud as being a possible terrorist, can't you just let him rest in peace?

<b>Shame.</b>

No! When his over the hill hippie father blames bush he can go pound salt. So far he has told 3 different stories.
Follow the money.

[Oh Sheila]

Originally posted by Heywood Jablome
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119896,00.html

Weird story is weirder.

damn, unreal

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Centurion

He's broke, wants desperately to go home, and supposedly said he turned down the plane home because he thought the trip to the the airport was too dangerous. HUH?

They interviewd a friend of his in Bagdad, a journalist, that said that he was not offered a return ticket. That journalist said that he would of jumped on the offer....

To Xenophobic: Why is it that facts are slowingly trickling to the surface. Why hasn;t the administration came out with the full story in one shot???

Cover-up? Remember the call to CBS to get them NOT TO AIR the prison pics...

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[Centurion]

Originally posted by directfiesta
They interviewd a friend of his in Bagdad, a journalist, that said that he was not offered a return ticket. That journalist said that he would of jumped on the offer....

Hmmm...got a link for that one? Thanks!

[Wilber]

Wtf was Nick Berg doing in iraq alone the press is trying to get
answers for.

Nick Berg's dad was on TV [today] speaking to the press for the
first time since the incident occurred. He says he blames Bush,
Rumsfeld, and al-quaeda. He went on about all his son was doing
was helping the iraqi people and that if the iraqis knew they killed
a friend and not an enemy they would be regretful.

How is an American going to be in iraq not part of the military and
not part of any company hired by iraq nor America to part of the
rebuild?

There is a big stinky fish somewhere in all of this.

Maybe he was just a J-freak trying to be all Jesus-buddy and
that's all there is to that. I's be interested to know if his
family is into some weird out-of-the-main-stream J-freak sect.

[Materialist]

[Chichio]

Maybe he was just a J-freak trying to be all Jesus-buddy

He was Jewish so I doubt it.

[xenophobic]

Originally posted by directfiesta
[B
To Xenophobic: Why is it that facts are slowingly trickling to the surface. Why hasn;t the administration came out with the full story in one shot???
[/B]

It's been what, 48 hours? - impatient much?


I saw somewhere his sister (deceased) was married to an Iraqi, and he had met him in Iraq.

[Centurion]

It is true that you can find all sorts of stories that contradict one another. Here's a good example.

Supposedly, Berg was captured when the convoy (including the dude who eventually escaped from) was ambushed the morning of April 9th.

Then I just read this story on cnn's website:

"Berg's brother David told reporters Wednesday that the family received e-mails from Berg after his release in which he made clear he had been held by U.S. forces.

Infante and another friend of Berg's, Colorado businessman Andy Duke, said they last saw Berg on the evening of April 9, at the Al Fanar Hotel three days after his release from Mosul.

Infante said he thought Berg was intending to go to Baghdad Airport the following morning and take a flight back to the United States.

The next he heard of Berg was when he heard news of his death.

"I thought he was back in the States. And I thought, my God, this is the guy. A different guy. More skinny, more pallid," Infante said.

Duke shared that shock. Another hotel guest woke Duke around midnight Tuesday.

"I looked at the Internet and there was that truly disgusting video. I couldn't look but turned away. But I heard the sounds," he said."

They saw him on the EVENING of April 9th when the military reported he was missing from the convoy that had been attacked earlier that very same day?

The grassy noll conspiracy theory is easier to understand than this one.

[newsdude]

Originally posted by genomega
No! When his over the hill hippie father blames bush he can go pound salt. So far he has told 3 different stories.
Follow the money.

3 different stories in such a short time? WTF?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Berg was probably CIA maybe.

[xenophobic]

Originally posted by AlienQ
Berg was probably CIA maybe.

yeah or maybe a free mason, who knew a skull & bones man who joined the illuminati.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by Wilber
Wtf was Nick Berg doing in iraq alone the press is trying to get
answers for.

Nick Berg's dad was on TV [today] speaking to the press for the
first time since the incident occurred. He says he blames Bush,
Rumsfeld, and al-quaeda. He went on about all his son was doing
was helping the iraqi people and that if the iraqis knew they killed
a friend and not an enemy they would be regretful.

Something strange is definately going on. I do not beleive in coincidences.

This quote above I heard as well, so maybe it could be taken that he was working with Al Quada some how.

[rebel23]

http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/berg.htm

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Centurion
Hmmm...got a link for that one? Thanks!

I saw it on CNN...

Here is the link:

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Slain American Nicholas Berg told a friend that he had been arrested by Iraqi police, detained briefly, and then handed over to U.S. troops who held him in a coalition facility for almost two weeks, the friend said.

Chilean freelance journalist Hugo Infante told CNN that weeks before the videotape of Berg's grisly death emerged on the Internet, "Nick told me, 'Iraqi police caught me one night, they saw my passport and my Jewish last name and my Israeli stamp. This guy thought I was a spy so they put me with American soldiers and American soldiers put me in a jail for two weeks.'"

Infante stays at the $30-a-night Al Fanar Hotel, where Berg was staying, and regularly chatted and shared drinks with him.

....

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/me...nds/index.html

[Centurion]

Originally posted by directfiesta
I saw it on CNN...

Here is the link:

Thanks.

Actually stumbled onto it a little earlier this evening.

Now, if you REALLY want to play "conspiracy" "coverup" or whatever the heck is going on..here's ANOTHER thing to put into play.

The friends that said they saw him on April 9th were so suprised to see him in the video. They both said "He looked so skinny and pale!"

Ok (and I KNOW this is reaching)...BUT..was it REALLY Nick Berg then that got killed if his friends who saw the video didn't recognize him?

Granted his parents saw the video too (apparently) but these guys were the LAST to see him before his capture and they said he was MUCH skinnier in this video.

For what it is worth..

[pure energy]

Looks like another circus is in town!

[Manowar]

Originally posted by Heywood Jablome
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119896,00.html

Weird story is weirder.

Hmmm, this is getting very suspicious