Excellent offer! :thumbsup

I'll contact you.

I appreciate it a lot!

Thanks again!

Wow, I've read this entire post and I simply cannot believe that not a single person here has said anything about the validity of this so called "test". There are waaaaaaaaaaaaay to many variables to draw any sort of conclusions based on the performance of one gallery listing.

If you want to do a real test buy yourself a package for $2,000.00 and average the results of your 12 galleries.
You'd have to be a fool to attempt to judge the quality of a particular traffic source based on the performance of one gallery! Whether your particular gallery does well or whether it does poorly, it will tell you nothing about the overall quality of the traffic from SleazyDream. A single gallery listing does not = a "test", period!

We've done plenty of advertising with Sleazy and all I have to say about his traffic is: :thumbsup :thumbsup

He's selling one day gallery spots. That's what I want to try. If other people want to buy 200000 months, it's up to them. My test is the 1day/300$ gallery spot.

We're really happy for you.

Thanks for your comments. Everyone can give their own opinion.

:thumbsup

Uhh.. you know what? ANY really good TGP owner would be happy to give paid customers advice about their galleries if they're going on his site. He is going to do better if he gives you the advice, you make great sales, and then you buy spots every single day? Or if you don't get the advice, miss out on the one little change that was the difference between breaking even or doing a clean up job, and take your gallery and your business somewhere else?


Think about that a minute :)

Actually his gallery listings run for 4 days. Anyway, let me simplify this for you. Simple anecdote here for the slow people: List your gallery on SleazyDream and get 5 sales, now list that exact same gallery with the exact same content 4 days later and you may get 15 sales, shit you may even get 30 - who knows. However, in your "single gallery test" scenario you've concluded that the traffic is only good enough to generate 5 sign-ups.

I won't even get in all the variables associated with using different galleries, sponsors, content, etc.

BOTTOM LINE: YOU CANNOT DRAW ANY REASONABLE CONCLUSIONS (GOOD OR BAD) BASED ON THE PERFOMANCE OF A SINGLE GALLERY!

Everyone here already knew that. Did you read the thread or not?

It doesn't matter if you agree or not. I'll post the results and I think it will be interesting.

Thanks again for your comments! We appreciate it.

Kindly shut the fuck up Bill Nye

Why are you trying to convince me of something everyone on this planet agree with?

I'm not attempting to upstage eroswebmaster here because he builds top notch galleries, but assuming you still feel the need for more entries I'll throw my hat in the ring with the same offer of a free gallery for your test.

well said

So you agree with the fact that the 300$ gallery spot is almost useless? Then why even propose it to customers?

Isn't supposed to be for someone who want to test your traffic? I don't see anyone buying a spot for a month if they only want to test what the traffic looks like.

We all agreed that sales are based on different factors.. That one day we might get 1 sale, the other day 10.

Bla bla bla.. Zzzzz. We all knew that already.

I don't see why the 300$ spot should be anything else than testing a gallery with your traffic.

And this what I want to do. Test one gallery.

whats taking you so long to put the gallery up - its 1 gallery.........................

Woooooooooooo.. Take a deep breath! :1orglaugh I have to contact eroswebmaster first. Then he has to design the gallery, then I have to contact someone at cybercatinc.com and book the gallery spot.

Then I'll post the results. :glugglug

im taking a deep breath now.. wooo.

Some people dont seem to understand this. Pretty annoying eh?

They act like its almost a secret to make 300 + profit from it. It shouldnt be a secret, it should be fairly doable.

I agree with ya Battuss, I don't understand why everyone keeps cracking down on this test. He's taking the approach from a normal webmasters view with no extra "benefits" no special knowledge just an average webmaster who has been in the biz for a while and wants to make some extra $$$ from a topspot on SD's site. What's the fuss about?

Kudos to Eros for making a gall... IMO he's the best :2 cents:

If you didn't even contact the designer yet, so the gallery has to be build and you didn't book the spot at sleazydream yet I will put this thread in the refrigiator for now

I will check back this thread in 6 weeks or something...

see http://www.byotdesignstudio.com
and judge for yourself who's the best in the field..

icq - 17630227

this is a great test, and if it makes crazy $$, sleazy will have tons of people on here looking to buy spots :Graucho

looking forward to the results myself :thumbsup

In point of fact I made exactly the points that you did.

Which is bye the bye. Looking over this thread again, it struck me how few designers have put up their hands. Usually when Joe Blow asks for galleries, they come out of the woodwork. Yet here is a chance for some good exposure and they become a bunch of shrinking violets.

The cynical might wonder whether that has anything to do with some of them not being too confident about the ability of their designs to earn money?

Pretty ironic eh?

BUMP for all the fake ass designers who are good at spamming but less good at designing.

how long till this gets done ? looking forward to the results :Graucho

I'm anxious to see the results also. Come on..

They don't make that much money,that's the reason tgp owners sell spots.You might be lucky if you hit a target niche with good content,but making more than double if your are lucky is an illusion.The TGP owners know the values :2 cents:

Gallery building is no rocket sience,you just have to copy or make a decent layout so there will be a high clickrate (doesn't even have to be graphic,html is enough) and good content of course, but a look at the TGP should tell you what kind of content will do it and what kind of content won't.So if you aren't super retarded everybody is able to do that. :2 cents:

Uhm yes, a pro can and will make his money back 4 times. On sleazy, the hun, everywhere.

I assumed he found a fucken designer by now.

Oh well if ya not got one yet, fuckit...

I will bust but if the content is lame and blown out I aint puttin myass on the line:1orglaugh

Design will cost ya 100.00.
Its a hi profile case with alot of eyeballs.

Dont think I should do it cheaper either for publicity and I will get more business that philosophy is shit.

OOp nevermind looks like Eros got it.

He can do well, I been watching em:)
Free...

Shame on you Eros but its all good:)

Waiting for results too :)

Haha sorry man...I guess I should have charged. But it sounded like a fun challenge.

That's exactly what i wanted to say :thumbsup

it would be a good idea for 5 (more?) webmasters buy a gallery spot each and do the test.
thus the test will be able to say whether those 300/day suck on SD

It's in eroswebmaster's hands right now.

AlienQ : Stop whining :glugglug

NoCarrier - Are you missing a few nuts and bolts?

It started out that you were on a mission to prove a point.
Then as posts went along you became more and more cocky.

People are trying to assist you, give you advice on what they have seen for themselves from running such paid spots. They are not debating on what you should or should not do, take it for what it is and be happy with it.

People were attempting to tell you that a onetime test is not accurate enough to judge sleazys traffic, I'm sure with your SE traffic it took a while to come to understanding the proper format for that type of traffic flow is.

Yes. That's why life is so interesting.

Actually. I was being friendly. I would be telling them to "shut the fuck up already" if I wasn't. I'm sure you would do the same after replying the same thing 10 times in the same thread.

Yes. They gave their opinions and I thanked them. And yes I'm very happy. Thanks.


Don't push it. I want to stay friendly. You have the answer in this thread.

WHo's whinning? Bwahh hahah!

Lets see when this is over:1orglaugh

This should be interesting.:thumbsup

NoCarrier:
I do like the test and your approach but I do have to say you're starting to come over very unfriendly... i.e. AlienQ just offered his services as everyone else and updated his post later as he realized Eros already got the job.

You're starting to sound more and more Sleazy... is this test getting to ya? :winkwink:

What did I say to upset AlienQ? The "stop whining" comment? Oh please! :winkwink:

That was a friendly comment :)

He was not upset at all and looks like he can't wait to see the results.

Look, I respect everyone's opinion. Even those who do not agree with the test.

I'm not calling them idiots because I don't agree with them. That's a major difference. :glugglug

If you havent found a designer to do this yet - use undutchable he is the best gallery desginer out there :thumbsup

his icq is 11915886

Sleazy this is a good time to spam your packages - what are the various price points for 1, 5, 10, 50 gallery spots, etc. ???