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Old 05-12-2004, 04:14 AM   #1
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The beheading of Israeli soldier

Yesterday in gaza an IDF tank exploded from Jihad bomb attack.

in the explosion 6 israeli troops were killed, and body parts of some of the troops are still in the Hamas and the Jihad hands

The Hizballah tv station "al-manar" showed pictures of beheaded israeli soldier


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Old 05-12-2004, 04:24 AM   #2
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That's not important, he's not american.
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Old 05-12-2004, 04:28 AM   #3
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Yesterday in gaza an IDF tank exploded from Jihad bomb attack.

in the explosion 6 israeli troops were killed, and body parts of some of the troops are still in the Hamas and the Jihad hands

The Hizballah tv station "al-manar" showed pictures of beheaded israeli soldier


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so tell us the full story !!!
haven't you heard that about 2,000 soldiers entered gaza same day to find pieces of Israeli soldier's bodies , and I guess they killed x10 palestians
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so tell us the full story !!!
haven't you heard that about 2,000 soldiers entered gaza same day to find pieces of Israeli soldier's bodies , and I guess they killed x10 palestians
too bad it wasn't x1000
I would rather have the entire gaza strip wiped out completely, then 1 Israeli soldier dead.

what would any other army do if the enemy took away body parts of dead soldiers, and showing a soldier's head in front of the camera?

Israel is being supremely moral by letting troops into Gaza to search for the body parts in every home and not cause the killing of "civilians". If such thing happened in chechna, the russian army would just bomb the place to pieces, declaring all "civilians" as terrorists.
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post the same about a american and your thread will explode..
its only bad when it happends to americans
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Old 05-12-2004, 04:50 AM   #6
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Sad but true for media...
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Old 05-12-2004, 05:40 AM   #7
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it's not only extremely sad that people can do something like that to an animal let alone a human. The fact that they will photograph it, just out right shows they are inhumane. Stuff like this just adds to the argument of just leveling the middle east, the world would have a lot less problems if there was no middle east.

It's pretty sad as I know a few people from Egypt, and some of the countries around there and for the most part they are normal decent people. Makes you wonder how all the fucked up people are always in charge over there. I will agree Bush is a dick, but he has nothing on most of the mid Eastern leaders.
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Old 05-12-2004, 05:45 AM   #8
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post the same about a american and your thread will explode..
its only bad when it happends to americans
Well its always bad.. but its only NEWSWORTHY when..
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too bad it wasn't x1000
I would rather have the entire gaza strip wiped out completely, then 1 Israeli soldier dead.
You (Israel) are also part of that problem, whether you realize it or not. You are two disagreeing people who will never give in to each other. Both of you have HARD SET ideals, and this problem will obviously NEVER be solved, as shown by your above comment. Wiping out an entire people sounds peaceful to me.

It's lucky for you the US backs your side, otherwise YOUR PEOPLE would be the ones throwing rocks and doing suicide bombings, so don't get all high and mighty.

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Old 05-12-2004, 06:22 AM   #10
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:49 AM   #11
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It's lucky for you the US backs your side, otherwise YOUR PEOPLE would be the ones throwing rocks and doing suicide bombings, so don't get all high and mighty.
You're a dumbass

Israel has it's own (leading on a world level) military indistry, and it's own established economy. The United States is a dear friend of Israel but it does not make Israel a US colony.

Also, your comment about me being lucky to have the US back my side is utterly stupid. It's not by luck that the US supports Israel. It is because Israel has many investments in the US and vise versa. Israel and the United States are so involved in each other's economy, politics, social life that the situation of the US supporting Israel can never change. It will always remain this way.
If the US will not support Israel, it would be as if the US threw a nuclear bomb on Canada. something that is completely impossible, and unlogical, therefore, there is no point whatsoever in your comment.

Should the Canadians feel lucky that the United States don't throw a nuclear bomb on them?
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:52 AM   #12
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According to some, apparently yes
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According to some, apparently yes
I guess those are the same "some" who think Israelies whould feel lucky that the US "backs their side"
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Should the Canadians feel lucky that the United States don't throw a nuclear bomb on them?
I thought you were dumb but now just have to ask can you say "I'm the dumbest fuck ever existed on planet earth?"
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I thought you were dumb but now just have to ask can you say "I'm the dumbest fuck ever existed on planet earth?"
no, I can't.
show me how to...


btw, who the fuck are you?
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Old 05-12-2004, 07:27 AM   #17
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Yesterday in gaza an IDF tank exploded from Jihad bomb attack.

in the explosion 6 israeli troops were killed, and body parts of some of the troops are still in the Hamas and the Jihad hands

The Hizballah tv station "al-manar" showed pictures of beheaded israeli soldier


<a href="http://www.4law.co.il/isla2.htm">
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Nice

I hope his family gets to see this.

One less murderer in the ME
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Old 05-12-2004, 07:31 AM   #18
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You're a dumbass

Israel has it's own (leading on a world level) military indistry, and it's own established economy. The United States is a dear friend of Israel but it does not make Israel a US colony.

Also, your comment about me being lucky to have the US back my side is utterly stupid. It's not by luck that the US supports Israel. It is because Israel has many investments in the US and vise versa. Israel and the United States are so involved in each other's economy, politics, social life that the situation of the US supporting Israel can never change. It will always remain this way.
If the US will not support Israel, it would be as if the US threw a nuclear bomb on Canada. something that is completely impossible, and unlogical, therefore, there is no point whatsoever in your comment.

Should the Canadians feel lucky that the United States don't throw a nuclear bomb on them?

Common, go tell your BS to 3 year olds. Israel receives the most U.S. aid per capita than any country in the world. The U.S. government is run by Jews and the Jewish lobby, which is the strongest one here and that is why Israel is in a position it is right now and is not squeezed by the muslim countries which surround you.
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This is our fault. Whoever decided to actually make a permanent record of our american soldiers torturing the Iraq soldiers is the one responsible. Once those pictures surfaced, we lost respect from the rest of the world.

Bad unspeakable things happens, especially during war. Many of these things are later forgotten about or minimized. The child who was gang-raped in Okinawa is a good example. But, it was just an awful story that most people forgot about within six months. Had there been photographs of the rape, it would have been much worse. I am still in awe that our soldiers were so stupid to take pics. Even if they wanted to use the camera as an extra form of humiliation, it shouldn't have had film (or the pics should have been immediately erased, if digital).

I've never been to war and don't plan on it. I can't judge the soldiers for their torturous actions. No matter what, though, making a permanent record was STUPID. In this day and age with media and internet, they were bound to surface. Stupid, stupid...
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Old 05-12-2004, 07:51 AM   #20
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That's not important, he's not american.

so what if the soldier isnt american? it doesn't matter if the victim is american or not the thing is they have no right to do such hannibalistic act to anyone, american or not
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so what if the soldier isnt american? it doesn't matter if the victim is american or not the thing is they have no right to do such hannibalistic act to anyone, american or not
Do you see 10's of threads started about this? Do you see anyone caring? I don't.
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i thought we backed israel because they bought the most american weapons...
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Israel is the ONLY sane country in the whole area. It just makes sense that America is friends with them.

Looking back, the arabs were friends with the Nazis and the Communists. How much more anti-American can you get?
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It's wrong to shoot a rocket at soldiers who are occupying a country now? Sure it's sad that people are getting killed but this doesn't compare with the beheading that Al-Qaeda did.
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This is our fault. Whoever decided to actually make a permanent record of our american soldiers torturing the Iraq soldiers is the one responsible. Once those pictures surfaced, we lost respect from the rest of the world.

Bad unspeakable things happens, especially during war. Many of these things are later forgotten about or minimized. The child who was gang-raped in Okinawa is a good example. But, it was just an awful story that most people forgot about within six months. Had there been photographs of the rape, it would have been much worse. I am still in awe that our soldiers were so stupid to take pics. Even if they wanted to use the camera as an extra form of humiliation, it shouldn't have had film (or the pics should have been immediately erased, if digital).

I've never been to war and don't plan on it. I can't judge the soldiers for their torturous actions. No matter what, though, making a permanent record was STUPID. In this day and age with media and internet, they were bound to surface. Stupid, stupid...
No its not our fault...

Israel and Palestine have been at it for a very long time.

Its a bloody conflict that no one ever seems to win.

It just keeps going on with no winner in sight.
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btw, who the fuck are you?
Who the fuck am I? I'm the biggest moron on planet earth.. there I can say it for myself no problem cos I think it takes a big person to admit he's little lol. Neways, U.S./Canada is not even remotely comparable to Israel/Palestine situation so buddy watch before you say more non-sense shit
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Nice

I hope his family gets to see this.

One less murderer in the ME

Too afraid to tell this about american people?

Why didn't you say it about the american citizen that was beheaded just like him?


Afraid from the comments of the patriotics in this forum?


You rat, hiding behind nicknames and celebrating the cruel murder of people!
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Who the fuck am I? I'm the biggest moron on planet earth.. there I can say it for myself no problem cos I think it takes a big person to admit he's little lol. Neways, U.S./Canada is not even remotely comparable to Israel/Palestine situation so buddy watch before you say more non-sense shit
I did not compare between US/Canada and Israel/The palestinian authority.

I just gave the first example that came to my mind to describe how I feel about the US support for Israel
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Too afraid to tell this about american people?

Why didn't you say it about the american citizen that was beheaded just like him?


Afraid from the comments of the patriotics in this forum?


You rat, hiding behind nicknames and celebrating the cruel murder of people!
the ignore option can be useful sometimes
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no doubt ... a new one every 5 min
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Too afraid to tell this about american people?

Why didn't you say it about the american citizen that was beheaded just like him?


Afraid from the comments of the patriotics in this forum?


You rat, hiding behind nicknames and celebrating the cruel murder of people!

What ever

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I guess those are the same "some" who think Israelies whould feel lucky that the US "backs their side"
Technically... Isreal wouldn't even be a country today if the US/UN didn't back their side. So I would say yes, they are lucky...
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Technically... Isreal wouldn't even be a country today if the US/UN didn't back their side. So I would say yes, they are lucky...
Exactly. Only reason U.S. backed them cos US had to do exact opposite of whatever Russia was doing during the coldwar ie. Russia was backing Arabs.. so U.S. backed Israel.. the friendship since then remained til today (unfortunate for the rest of the world) otherwise, if Russia backed Israel instead, U.S. would be backing Palestine today.. well, on the other hand, if hat was the case, there would probably be no Israel existing today.
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Israel is the ONLY sane country in the whole area. It just makes sense that America is friends with them.

Looking back, the arabs were friends with the Nazis and the Communists. How much more anti-American can you get?
Hey Mike, if you have some free time could you get in touch with me plllllllleeeeeeeeease =) thank you.



Oh and to the other guy, WTF does Canada have to do with this? Christ sakes has everyone gone MAD!?!
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Why would we do that... We like our funny speaking northern neighbors. As long as they dont force me to drink thier beer, they are ok in my book
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Exactly. Only reason U.S. backed them cos US had to do exact opposite of whatever Russia was doing during the coldwar ie. Russia was backing Arabs.. so U.S. backed Israel.. the friendship since then remained til today (unfortunate for the rest of the world) otherwise, if Russia backed Israel instead, U.S. would be backing Palestine today.. well, on the other hand, if hat was the case, there would probably be no Israel existing today.
Congratulations! You just made a fool out of yourself!

The Soviet Union (Russia), and all the countries in it, who had their own right to vote, voted IN FAVOR of an Israeli state, in the UN voting on November 29th, 1947!

Shall I say.................. OWN3D!
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well, no comment at all? a bit dissapointing
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Congratulations! You just made a fool out of yourself!

The Soviet Union (Russia), and all the countries in it, who had their own right to vote, voted IN FAVOR of an Israeli state, in the UN voting on November 29th, 1947!

Shall I say.................. OWN3D!
Pull your pants back up pea brain. I said nothing about "Israeli State". Are you really that stupid or do you just not understand english very well? Yes, I meant your Israeli State would be gone by now if the U.S. didn't back it not that Israeli State did never exist dodo brain. I say let the U.S. withdarw its backing now your illegal occupation still will be gone.

Yea U.N. proposed a Israeli State alright but ws it ever accepted by arabs? Now, your history says:

You guys started out as mostly illegal immigrants in Palestine but then..

1945: With the ending of World War II, and the horrors of holocaust were laid open, Zionist demands on self-government increased. From now on, illegal immigration to Palestine was organized.

1947: UN takes control over Palestine.
? November 29: A UN plan for dividing Palestine into two countries, one Jewish and one Arab, with Jerusalem as international zone, is presented. This plan was immediately met by violent protest from the Arabs.

1949 February 24: Egypt declares that the agreement on cease fire, is not an acceptance of the state of Israel. The Israeli territory has increased from the 15,500 kmē that the UN-resolution of 1947 gave them, to 20,700 kmē.

And that was only the beginning of land grabbing.. it's still going on.. I think if the illegal immigrants of the U.S. claimed a state for themselves in the U.S. most Americans would be pretty pissed too and if they claimed a state and showed a mid finger at Americans it would get even worse
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Pull your pants back up pea brain. I said nothing about "Israeli State". Are you really that stupid or do you just not understand english very well? Yes, I meant your Israeli State would be gone by now if the U.S. didn't back it not that Israeli State did never exist dodo brain. I say let the U.S. withdarw its backing now your illegal occupation still will be gone.

Yea U.N. proposed a Israeli State alright but ws it ever accepted by arabs? Now, your history says:

You guys started out as mostly illegal immigrants in Palestine but then..

1945: With the ending of World War II, and the horrors of holocaust were laid open, Zionist demands on self-government increased. From now on, illegal immigration to Palestine was organized.

1947: UN takes control over Palestine.
? November 29: A UN plan for dividing Palestine into two countries, one Jewish and one Arab, with Jerusalem as international zone, is presented. This plan was immediately met by violent protest from the Arabs.

1949 February 24: Egypt declares that the agreement on cease fire, is not an acceptance of the state of Israel. The Israeli territory has increased from the 15,500 kmē that the UN-resolution of 1947 gave them, to 20,700 kmē.

And that was only the beginning of land grabbing.. it's still going on.. I think if the illegal immigrants of the U.S. claimed a state for themselves in the U.S. most Americans would be pretty pissed too and if they claimed a state and showed a mid finger at Americans it would get even worse
Don't worry about my english. It's just fine

You said: "Russia was backing Arabs.. so U.S. backed Israel"

But Russia was backing ISRAEL (unless voting IN FAVOR of an Israeli state means backing arabs...)
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Old 05-12-2004, 04:45 PM   #44
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But Russia was backing ISRAEL (unless voting IN FAVOR of an Israeli state means backing arabs...)
Awh that's what you call "Russian backing Israel"? LOL. Hey you know Russia and U.S. agreed on many other issues to under UN I guess then U.S and Russia must've been best friends too? Nawh! There was no such thing as cold war at all either. I tell you once again, please quit speaking non-sense.

On February 4, 1970, Nixon proposed to Chairman Kosygin that the United States and the Soviet Union discuss the question of limiting the arms which the two countries provide to the Middle East. The Soviets rejected this proposal as they had done similar proposals in the past.

On March 23 Secretary Rogers announced that they would hold in abeyance a decision on Israel's request for additional aircraft, pointing out that: "Restraint will be required on the part of other major suppliers to the Middle East. No nation can pursue a policy of seeking unilateral advantage in the area if peace is to be achieved."

The Soviet Union responded by stepping up the shipment of air- defense missiles and aircraft, manned by Soviet combat crews, to Egypt-the first time that Soviet combat crews have been moved to a nation outside the Communist orbit.

February 4 letter to Chairman Kosygin from Nixon he made clear that the United States would not hesitate to provide arms to Israel if they were required in order to maintain that balance. On July 31 Nixon said publicly:

It is an integral part of our cease-fire proposal that neither side is to use the cease-fire period to improve its military position in the area of the cease-fire lines. All would have to refrain from... undertaking a military buildup of any kind in such an area.

The Soviet Union's disregard for this essential foundation for peace talks raised serious doubts about its readiness to cooperate in the effort to achieve peace. Against this background, the United States had no choice but to take further steps to help maintain the military balance.

The Soviets have persistently called for an Israeli commitment to total withdrawal from all occupied territories. The Soviets have also called for a refugee settlement which inadequately reflects the practical human and security problems involved on both sides.

The United States has recognized that any changes in prewar borders should be insubstantial, but we insist that any agreement to fix final borders must be directly linked in a peace agreement to mutually agreed practical arrangements that would make these secure. These are matters for negotiation between the parties. The Soviets have insisted, however, that the major powers make these judgments and, in effect, impose them on the parties.
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we're supposed to give these animals their own state??? Nah I don't think so, let them keep living like animals as long as they act like them.... lets see how many dead they can take before they begin to reject acts like going and shooting a pregnant woman and her children...fucking cowards....... i know israel shoots rockets and civilians die....too fucking bad, they brought it on themselves.....
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i know israel shoots rockets and civilians die....too fucking bad, they brought it on themselves.....
and so vice versa.. suicide bombers Israel brought it on themselves
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That's not important, he's not american.

He's still a person, right? Regardless of the race, this whole thing sucks!
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Yea U.N. proposed a Israeli State alright but ws it ever accepted by arabs? Now, your history says:

You guys started out as mostly illegal immigrants in Palestine but then..

1945: With the ending of World War II, and the horrors of holocaust were laid open, Zionist demands on self-government increased. From now on, illegal immigration to Palestine was organized.

1947: UN takes control over Palestine.
? November 29: A UN plan for dividing Palestine into two countries, one Jewish and one Arab, with Jerusalem as international zone, is presented. This plan was immediately met by violent protest from the Arabs.

1949 February 24: Egypt declares that the agreement on cease fire, is not an acceptance of the state of Israel. The Israeli territory has increased from the 15,500 kmē that the UN-resolution of 1947 gave them, to 20,700 kmē.

And that was only the beginning of land grabbing.. it's still going on.. I think if the illegal immigrants of the U.S. claimed a state for themselves in the U.S. most Americans would be pretty pissed too and if they claimed a state and showed a mid finger at Americans it would get even worse
To add to this, palestinians were kicked out of their homes, businesses and any property they owned was now owned by jewish families. They were no longer a citizen of palestine because palestine (aside from the arabs, china and russia etc) was no longer a country. So the palestinians with no home, no money, no country to call home.. were forced to either restart there lives as second class citizens in Israel or move to neighboring countries such as Jordan, Kuwait and Iraq.

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He's still a person, right? Regardless of the race, this whole thing sucks!
he was being ironic.. meaning it hasnt been covered on the news as much, theres no million threads about it, etc because the soldier was not american. I doubt he actually feels that way.
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