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Old 05-11-2004, 02:21 PM   #101
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putting videos and pics out there of human degregation is just a hot ball that gets played back and forth between both sides.

The first one released is meant to incite anger in one side, then the other is released to cater to the angry side but only perpetuates more animosity from the the opposing side.

It just goes back and forth until everyone is shocked and upset at both sides, even their own.

Timing and placement of these images used as proaganda within the media are key elements.

If we had seen pictures of Americans torturing Afghanis a month after 9/11, we would have thought it was great; especially after the images of 9/11 were still so fresh in our heads.

If you see or hear of innocent Americans or others being tortured by Iraqis in the next week, then maybe you'll change your mind and perception of the events of the soldiers with the prisoners.
This would be an ideal situation to have happen for Bush. His staff and media croonies know this as well.

With the election not far off, and all the hot water Bush has fell into now, expect to see signs of this......

I believe we need to have access to all avenues of information regarding this and everything else in our lives that can and will affect our lives.

But we need to think more about the whole picture given the small pieces of the puzzle we can get before we act out in anger or immediate retaliation.
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Old 05-11-2004, 02:22 PM   #102
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That's when they win. Those aren't Iraqi's, those are terrorists. They would love nothing more...
Terrorist hide inbetween Iraqis. There is no way to seperate them at this point. A very loud message needs to be sent. It worked on Japan....

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Old 05-11-2004, 02:22 PM   #103
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Then again people -- remember. How is this any worse than shooting someone in the head or the chest?

The person's life is taken away in a brutal fashion and it is war time.

This just shows the harshness and pointlessness of war in general.

You Sir, are describing "war" the person whom was hahahahahahahad was a civilian, and I believe a bullet to the head or chest would be mercifully quick to the death this fellow had.
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I know, since this board is mostly porn webmasters, that like 95% people in here are secularist and very anti-war and all that, which is completely fine theres not a damn thing wrong with that.. but this video should turn on a light in all our brains, that we now know what we are up against, that we can no longer say get out of Afghanistan get out of Iraq, when this is what we're dealing with, and what our kids are gonna' have to deal with for decades to come... theyve shown their ugly face,these animals, which to me are not people at all ... regardless of what you think about going into this, now you have to desire to win this at any and all costs, we gotta' fight these fuckers guys! they are a disease on planet fucking earth! GO USA!
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Second the motion.

That was flat out infuriating. Fuck that country and trying to help them out. I say let them crumble in a civil war. Fuck helping them now.

Here's an idea..... although Iraqi's generally can't stand US and want us out, various Iraqi polls throughout the country tell that they do want freedom and democracy...Yet, they don't want to do shit to help their people, they refuse to go after these animals and they refuse to police themselves in some parts of the country.... well here's an idea you lazy fucking no good bastards, why don't we let Saddam out of his cage, and free his boys to rape, torture, and kill its citizens all over again? I bet that would quickly end Iraq's anti-American sentiment real quickly! "Fuck America Fuck America! Fu-Oh shit! I mean, Good America! Big penises, we love Americans! help us please..."
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Terrorist hide inbetween Iraqis. There is no way to seperate them at this point. A very loud message needs to be sent. It worked on Japan....


Ignorants like you are what makes me lose faith in humanity.
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Here's an idea..... although Iraqi's generally can't stand US and want us out, various Iraqi polls throughout the country tell that they do want freedom and democracy...Yet, they don't want to do shit to help their people, they refuse to go after these animals and they refuse to police themselves in some parts of the country.... well here's an idea you lazy fucking no good bastards, why don't we let Saddam out of his cage, and free his boys to rape, torture, and kill its citizens all over again? I bet that would quickly end Iraq's anti-American sentiment real quickly! "Fuck America Fuck America! Fu-Oh shit! I mean, Good America! Big penises, we love Americans! help us please..."
Exactly... these terrorist FUCKS are hiding amongst them, and THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE. Don't kid yourselves. The Iraqi people are shielding terrorists.

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Old 05-11-2004, 02:27 PM   #108
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Ignorants like you are what makes me lose faith in humanity.
Ignorants like 5 masked pussy ass gunmen who saw off civilians heads for display are what make me lose faith in humanity.
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One thing I have to interject here, those same screams happen 140 Million times a day to the animals that get their heads cut off too so we all can eat.

The human race kills about 50 Billion animals per year for food.

And don't forget the children who die slowly and have no energy left to scream. Every day 35,000 children in the world starve to death.

We live on a fucked up planet. Mankind is the most destructive, cruel, and violent animal of them all.
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Ignorants like 5 masked pussy ass gunmen who saw off civilians heads for display are what make me lose faith in humanity.

Those pussy masked gunmen are just as partiotic about their countries and religions as you are, my friend. The USA invaded their territory with tanks and soldiers. Can you blame them? Do you understand them? No you don't, and never will. But sure, you just keep on wishing for a quick "nucular" solution, just fuck all of them Iraqis up, they're just all the same bunch of towelhead ******s.

C'mon now.

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One thing I have to interject here, those same screams happen 140 Million times a day to the animals that get their heads cut off too so we all can eat.

The human race kills about 50 Billion animals per year for food.

And don't forget the children who die slowly and have no energy left to scream. Every day 35,000 children in the world starve to death.

We live on a fucked up planet. Mankind is the most destructive, cruel, and violent animal of them all.

Surprising that there is still people who don't realize that.
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Old 05-11-2004, 02:36 PM   #112
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Thos pussy masked gunmen are just as partiotic about their countries and religions as you are, my friend. The USA invaded their territory with tanks and soldiers. Can you blame them? Do you understand them? No you don't, and never will. But sure, you just keep on wishing for a quick "nucular" solution, just fuck all of them Iraqis up, they're just all the same bunch of towelhead ******s.

C'mon now.
EQ - You're assigning racism to my beliefs which is untrue. Can I blame them? Yes... I can. We didn't invite them here for our little party on 9-11. Muslim extremeist HATE the US and came to us in the form of gas laden airplanes with hundreds of civilians on board.

I'm not looking for a "nucular" (ahem - nuclear) solution unless it's warranted. Do you think for 1 milisecond if Muslim miltants had nuclear or dirty bomb capability that they'd hesitate for one second about dropping it on my city or yours? THEY WOULD. But they don't have the technology or the means to deliver it. Maybe we can all just hang around until they do.

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And honestly, it's his own fuckin fault, being a cilivian in a HIGHLY RISKY and UNFRIENDLY environment during WAR TIME and under strange circumstances to begin with... don't you agree?
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Those pussy masked gunmen are just as partiotic about their countries and religions as you are, my friend. The USA invaded their territory with tanks and soldiers. Can you blame them? Do you understand them? No you don't, and never will. But sure, you just keep on wishing for a quick "nucular" solution, just fuck all of them Iraqis up, they're just all the same bunch of towelhead ******s.

C'mon now.
Oh looky here! we got our future Michael Moore right here on this board.......... Those pussy masked gunmen, er eh, I mean ANIMALS, are not patriotic, they're probably foreigners, they dont give a shit about their country or its people or RELIGION, if they did they wouldn't be killing Iraqis(lets get this straight, the majority who die in terrorist attacks in Iraq are IRAQIS you IGNORANT FUCK), they wouldn't be fucking up their own oil lines which feed their people, they wouldn't be claiming murder in the name of ALLAH...Get your facts straight before you rant and rave like some angry liberal in San Francisco
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Some one posted this to our forum as well. It's really awful video. I saw the same atrocity filmed by Chechen terrorists then they were killing Russian POW's. Fucking bastards... I have no comments for it...
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One thing I have to interject here, those same screams happen 140 Million times a day to the animals that get their heads cut off too so we all can eat.

The human race kills about 50 Billion animals per year for food.

And don't forget the children who die slowly and have no energy left to scream. Every day 35,000 children in the world starve to death.

We live on a fucked up planet. Mankind is the most destructive, cruel, and violent animal of them all.
Very true.

Good post KRL.
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One thing I have to interject here, those same screams happen 140 Million times a day to the animals that get their heads cut off too so we all can eat.

The human race kills about 50 Billion animals per year for food.

And don't forget the children who die slowly and have no energy left to scream. Every day 35,000 children in the world starve to death.

We live on a fucked up planet. Mankind is the most destructive, cruel, and violent animal of them all.
Very true.

As I said earlier actually seeing it on video is another story.
Most of us choose to ignore the daily suffering that goes on in this world out of apathy or an inability to cope with it.

Can you imagine if the nightly news showed video of every violent killing, human or animal that occurred that day.
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EQ - You're assigning racism to my beliefs which is untrue. Can I blame them? Yes... I can. We didn't invite them here for our little party on 9-11. Muslim extremeist HATE the US and came to us in the form of gas laden airplanes with hundreds of civilians on board.

I'm not looking for a "nucular" (ahem - nuclear) solution unless it's warranted. Do you think for 1 milisecond if Muslim miltants had nuclear or dirty bomb capability that they'd hesitate for one second about dropping it on my city or yours? THEY WOULD. But they don't have the technology or the means to deliver it. Maybe we can all just hang around until they do.


I wasn't assigning racism, I was being sarcastic and was exaggerating. I just tried to put it in a perspective that I often find here among Americans. They hate the fact that US soldiers are dying daily, they are complaning about the money flowing there, instead of helping the local economy, and are yelling out for a quick and "clean" solution -- like in Japan 60 years ago. Well, these are different times, a nuclear (I know how to spell it, I was moking Bush and hence the quotes) attack won't happen, that should be clear. I understand the US' effort to rebuild Iraq, but as long as the Iraqi population is infested with mulitant extremists and splinter groups who hate American guts and like to slice heads off, there will be more dying. As simple as that.

You are right, nobody invited them to the 9-11 party. BUT! First of all, it is not clear to many of you, that the roots of the hatred against the US and the fire that fuels the hatred are entagled in the past. I once read that Al-Quaeda was furious about the prolonged occupation of the Holy Land after Desert Storm after the war was over. There is a REASON why those people dispise your country. And 9-11 was the way to retaliate. Secondly, you can not mix two different things. Going after Al-Q. in Afghanistan and bombing the shit out of their nests was certainly justified, and there was no doubt in my mind that that was a proper reaction to the attacks of 2001. But Iraq, my friend, is mildly different. Sure, there is splinter groups of Al-Q. and others that belong to the same terror network that allegedly planned and hahahahahahahad 9-11, but not all Iraqi people are contra-USA. You can't just fuckin nuke them, because the USA is incapable of saving their soldier's lives in a guerilla warfare scenario as it is in Iraq now. No wonder people have predicted Iraq to become the second "Nam". With every next lost life, it gets a step closer.


Regarding your statement on the nukes... sure - they'd probably use it, BUT they don't have one, and I am sure the brilliant CIA leadership puts lots of money and efforts into making sure they don't have it. Which brings me back to the source of all this pointless evil: Where are the WMDs?
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Oh looky here! we got our future Michael Moore right here on this board.......... Those pussy masked gunmen, er eh, I mean ANIMALS, are not patriotic, they're probably foreigners, they dont give a shit about their country or its people or RELIGION, if they did they wouldn't be killing Iraqis(lets get this straight, the majority who die in terrorist attacks in Iraq are IRAQIS you IGNORANT FUCK), they wouldn't be fucking up their own oil lines which feed their people, they wouldn't be claiming murder in the name of ALLAH...Get your facts straight before you rant and rave like some angry liberal in San Francisco

Yes, call me an ignorant fuck, that'll help. Sorry, I don't get my "facts" from CNN.
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There only two possibilities: you'll lose your mind or you become indifferent...
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I wasn't assigning racism, I was being sarcastic and was exaggerating. I just tried to put it in a perspective that I often find here among Americans. They hate the fact that US soldiers are dying daily, they are complaning about the money flowing there, instead of helping the local economy, and are yelling out for a quick and "clean" solution -- like in Japan 60 years ago. Well, these are different times, a nuclear (I know how to spell it, I was moking Bush and hence the quotes) attack won't happen, that should be clear. I understand the US' effort to rebuild Iraq, but as long as the Iraqi population is infested with mulitant extremists and splinter groups who hate American guts and like to slice heads off, there will be more dying. As simple as that.

You are right, nobody invited them to the 9-11 party. BUT! First of all, it is not clear to many of you, that the roots of the hatred against the US and the fire that fuels the hatred are entagled in the past. I once read that Al-Quaeda was furious about the prolonged occupation of the Holy Land after Desert Storm after the war was over. There is a REASON why those people dispise your country. And 9-11 was the way to retaliate. Secondly, you can not mix two different things. Going after Al-Q. in Afghanistan and bombing the shit out of their nests was certainly justified, and there was no doubt in my mind that that was a proper reaction to the attacks of 2001. But Iraq, my friend, is mildly different. Sure, there is splinter groups of Al-Q. and others that belong to the same terror network that allegedly planned and hahahahahahahad 9-11, but not all Iraqi people are contra-USA. You can't just fuckin nuke them, because the USA is incapable of saving their soldier's lives in a guerilla warfare scenario as it is in Iraq now. No wonder people have predicted Iraq to become the second "Nam". With every next lost life, it gets a step closer.


Regarding your statement on the nukes... sure - they'd probably use it, BUT they don't have one, and I am sure the brilliant CIA leadership puts lots of money and efforts into making sure they don't have it. Which brings me back to the source of all this pointless evil: Where are the WMDs?
WQ- A very educated response, and my aplogies sir for not catching the Bush humor on nuclucar. What people are not understanding is the tie between Al-Q, Iraq, and Syria for that matter. It's not just Iraq. Militant muslims who hide among civilians. You made the point. "You can't just fuckin nuke em". Yes we could. I never want to see that, but it's a reality. What's the alternative? A long drawn out guerilla vietnam style war....


Heres the nuke plan....

Order all troops to start a retreat from a major Iraqi city to a safe distance. Let's take Falluja for example. When the troops are say 100 miles away with containment borders start dropping leaflets from C-130's all over Falluja that read this.

"Dear Iraq citizen, we've been trying to help you liberate your country from opression. It is impossible because not only do you fight amongst yourselves, you fight us, and allow terrorist elements to operate from within your country.

Please be warned that the city of Falluja will come under nuclear attack in 2 days and will be no longer. As a country we have no interest in killing civilians so if you are a civilian please take you family and leave."

2 days later you level that fucker and send a note to Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and any other city that may harbor terrorist that says.

"Dear Middle Eastern country... Did you see that shit we just did over in Fallujah? We've got plenty more of those where that one came from. If any more American Civilians are killed we'll keep using them. You wanna cut heads off? We'll level cities. Fuck off and remember the WTC. Regards, THE US."
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Hey BlingDaddy, what'd I just say?

EQ- Good god..... My own people....
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This is that they are trying to achieve from you. It is called RACISM. You already said "******s". What's next, new KKK???
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A friend of mine just watched it, but I'm going to pass. Taking a human life is just difficult to handle when watching. It's one thing to say it happened, but to watch isn't very fun.
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A friend of mine just watched it, but I'm going to pass. Taking a human life is just difficult to handle when watching. It's one thing to say it happened, but to watch isn't very fun.
I'm an EMT for christs sake. I've seen the worst of the worst, and it shocked me!

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WQ- A very educated response, and my aplogies sir for not catching the Bush humor on nuclucar. What people are not understanding is the tie between Al-Q, Iraq, and Syria for that matter. It's not just Iraq. Militant muslims who hide among civilians. You made the point. "You can't just fuckin nuke em". Yes we could. I never want to see that, but it's a reality. What's the alternative? A long drawn out guerilla vietnam style war....


Heres the nuke plan....

Order all troops to start a retreat from a major Iraqi city to a safe distance. Let's take Falluja for example. When the troops are say 100 miles away with containment borders start dropping leaflets from C-130's all over Falluja that read this.

"Dear Iraq citizen, we've been trying to help you liberate your country from opression. It is impossible because not only do you fight amongst yourselves, you fight us, and allow terrorist elements to operate from within your country.

Please be warned that the city of Falluja will come under nuclear attack in 2 days and will be no longer. As a country we have no interest in killing civilians so if you are a civilian please take you family and leave."

2 days later you level that fucker and send a note to Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and any other city that may harbor terrorist that says.

"Dear Middle Eastern country... Did you see that shit we just did over in Fallujah? We've got plenty more of those where that one came from. If any more American Civilians are killed we'll keep using them. You wanna cut heads off? We'll level cities. Fuck off and remember the WTC. Regards, THE US."


Ok, I get your point. BUT! In my humble opinion, the terror network, that's threatening the western, modern world, does span the entire fuckin' globe, and is not just resident in Iraq, Syria and Iran... do you think the recent attacks in Madrid were made by extremist Arabs who took a plane there? Of course not. Those tentacles of the big terror octopus are spread everywhere. Do we know who the supporters are? Hussein was allegedly one of the financial supporters of Al-Quaeda and the 9-11 attacks. Ever been proven? Don't think so.

And fighting the guerilla war on Iraqi turf, where those lunatic fuckers use their own people as human shields or hide in mosques... there is nothing you can do about it. Do you think they will follow international war conventions? They will wipe their tan asses with 'em. The USA however, being the most powerful nation in the world (although not the biggest economical power anymore, the EU is) must follow those rules to at least some extent.

Mark my words, this war will have more shocking consequences, because the fire that burns this conflict is getting hotter and hotter, and the US can't do shit about it other than just pour more money, blood and fuel into it.
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Very disturbing. If you don't need to watch it I wouldn't. I watched it because it was available and I wanted to see the truth not how our media is going to spin this. Its very gruesome.

To those that are comparing it to the slaughter of animals for human consumption. Get a fucking clue.
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Ok, I get your point. BUT! In my humble opinion, the terror network, that's threatening the western, modern world, does span the entire fuckin' globe, and is not just resident in Iraq, Syria and Iran... do you think the recent attacks in Madrid were made by extremist Arabs who took a plane there? Of course not. Those tentacles of the big terror octopus are spread everywhere. Do we know who the supporters are? Hussein was allegedly one of the financial supporters of Al-Quaeda and the 9-11 attacks. Ever been proven? Don't think so.

And fighting the guerilla war on Iraqi turf, where those lunatic fuckers use their own people as human shields or hide in mosques... there is nothing you can do about it. Do you think they will follow international war conventions? They will wipe their tan asses with 'em. The USA however, being the most powerful nation in the world (although not the biggest economical power anymore, the EU is) must follow those rules to at least some extent.

Mark my words, this war will have more shocking consequences, because the fire that burns this conflict is getting hotter and hotter, and the US can't do shit about it other than just pour more money, blood and fuel into it.

Completely agreed. This is a global problem that is going to take the support of a global community. We haven't seen the last of this bullshit. At some point regrettably we're all going to see a breaking point of epic proportions. This is the next "crusades". Religion and belief vs. Religion and belief. That's the only reason I referenced Japan. The US had thrown so much "blood, money, and fuel" into defending from Japan that there was one horrible alternative.

We're dealing with combatants that have no respect for conventional warfare.
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Yeah... and in no time at all. I don't care if terrorist are orange, yellow, black, white, or wear Turbans, or baseball hats. FUCK EM.
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Ok, I get your point. BUT! In my humble opinion, the terror network, that's threatening the western, modern world, does span the entire fuckin' globe, and is not just resident in Iraq, Syria and Iran... do you think the recent attacks in Madrid were made by extremist Arabs who took a plane there? Of course not. Those tentacles of the big terror octopus are spread everywhere. Do we know who the supporters are? Hussein was allegedly one of the financial supporters of Al-Quaeda and the 9-11 attacks. Ever been proven? Don't think so.
Furthermore, Saddam was a bitterest enemy for Osama - that's a fact (there was no Al-Quaeda in Iraq during Saddam's regime). As about financing Al-Quaeda, so don't forget that CIA was it's first sponsor (they sponsored Osama Bin Laden openly duding Russian Afghan company) - that's one more fact as well. So.. make your conclusions...
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Death to them and their families for that barbaric act. Yes I said families. Anything that came from their loins, can only be the devil.

Those aren't humans.....there isn't a word for them that can describe them....

That is about as inhumane as you can get....
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