Epassporte: This is some fucked up shit!!! Someone stole $695.48 - GoFuckYourself.com

Paparazzi · 05-05-2004, 05:26 PM

This is some crazy shit!!!! I had some old unauthorized charges on my virtual card ( http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=273759
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=263664 )

I talked with epassporte and they temporarily suspended my account and blocked both my virtual & electron card. My last correspondence with them was Apr 27 and haven't heard back from them since which SUCKS! Today I took a look at my account and I see some cocksucker bought some stuff from an online store in Sweden for $695.48 on my virtual card EVEN if my card was blocked WTF. You guys have to take a look at your security!!!!!!

RP Fade · 05-05-2004, 05:27 PM

Hope it gets resolved

jact · 05-05-2004, 05:29 PM

Nothing surprises me anymore. Hope everything gets resolved.

Fletch XXX · 05-05-2004, 05:31 PM

have never used it, hope it works out

Sambo · 05-05-2004, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paparazzi
This is some crazy shit!!!! I had some old unauthorized charges on my virtual card ( http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=273759
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=263664 )

I talked with epassporte and they temporarily suspended my account and blocked both my virtual & electron card. My last correspondence with them was Apr 27 and haven't heard back from them since which SUCKS! Today I took a look at my account and I see some cocksucker bought some stuff from an online store in Sweden for $695.48 on my virtual card EVEN if my card was blocked WTF. You guys have to take a look at your security!!!!!!

Id be on the phone to them pretty damn fast!!

freezex · 05-05-2004, 05:35 PM

Fuck man I had same shit happening to me 2 months ago, 700 bucks stolen, I will get it back though. Epassporte have been good to me thru this.

VicMartin · 05-05-2004, 05:35 PM

Hmmm, I just opened an account with them. Maybe it was a bad idea. I hope I don't hear any more horror stories like that about them.

Good luck, I hope you get your money back.

Paparazzi · 05-05-2004, 05:42 PM

thanks for the support guys...just had about $18-19 in my account so I have like -$676 now, but still pretty scary someone can steal that amount and overcharge the account...plus my cards was BLOCKED!!! I really hope they catch that fucker

Dildozer · 05-05-2004, 05:45 PM

Hope you get the money back!

Sambo · 05-05-2004, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paparazzi
thanks for the support guys...just had about $18-19 in my account so I have like -$676 now, but still pretty scary someone can steal that amount and overcharge the account...plus my cards was BLOCKED!!! I really hope they catch that fucker

I cant go -00.01 on my account, it just declines it. I thought that was the way the debit card system worked.

I expect it will dishonored and the money will just go back on your account.

I hope anyway!!

Raf1 · 05-05-2004, 05:46 PM

That sucks man. I haven't had any trouble with epassporte, but this is pretty scary shit

DraX · 05-05-2004, 05:48 PM

Fuck, hope things turns out good for you bro

Paparazzi · 05-05-2004, 06:04 PM

The online store only accepts domestic orders so I will see where the package was sent tomorrow...

AMADude · 05-05-2004, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VicMartin
Hmmm, I just opened an account with them. Maybe it was a bad idea. I hope I don't hear any more horror stories like that about them.

Good luck, I hope you get your money back.

What he said.

herbal logic · 05-05-2004, 06:08 PM

gold is the only worldwide currency

Ross · 05-05-2004, 06:09 PM

Fuck that sucks big time. What a shitty operation if they let that slide.

Tuna · 05-05-2004, 06:12 PM

wow thats scary. let us know how it turns out

SpeakEasy · 05-05-2004, 07:04 PM

It will be nice to hear what Kimmy Kim has to say about this, or any epassporte rep.

foolio · 05-05-2004, 07:10 PM

holy shit that sucks -- lets see if there is a reply from epassporte in here or not

twistyneck · 05-05-2004, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpeakEasy
It will be nice to hear what Kimmy Kim has to say about this, or any epassporte rep.

Denial and/or blame someone else I reckon. Probably a bit of snottiness thrown in for good measure.

Lace · 05-05-2004, 07:14 PM

How the hell did they get your card in the first place?

doober · 05-05-2004, 07:23 PM

and i just signed up for an account

Ash@phpFX · 05-05-2004, 09:44 PM

that sucks man, this is the first inceident like this ive heard of with them

psyko514 · 05-05-2004, 10:13 PM

Since you all seem to know sweet fuck all about how Visa cards work, here's a little schooling.

Merchants have something called floor limits. The floor limit is a maximum amount a merchant can charge to a Visa card without obtaining an authorization. The floor limits are specific to the merchant category and not merchants themselves.

For example (and these numbers are totally made up for example purposes), all grocery stores can process transactions of up to $200 US without requesting an authorization.

When a transaction is passed under the floor limit, no communication is done with Visa before the transaction is completed. The merchant swipes the card the capture the account information for when they do their deposits afterwards.

If a transaction is done under the floor limit, it'll automatically go thru on the account, regardless of whether the account is closed, overlimit, delinquent, been placed on hold, etc. If for any reason the transaction is not valid (for example, a fraudulent transaction), Visa takes responsibility.

On top of that, a merchant can process transactions of any amount without requesting an authorization. However, if the transaction is over the merchant's floor limit and the transaction is invalid, the responsibility for paying the transaction falls on the merchant's shoulders.

So, assuming there was no error on ePassporte's end (for example, the card wasn't placed on hold), the merchant in question most likely never requested an authorization for the transaction.

Kimmykim · 05-05-2004, 10:23 PM

psykho

You know way too much about how systems work

However, in ePassporte, you cannot use a Virtual Visa for a non-virtual transaction without attempting forced authorization.

We request a reverse on those

Drop me an email paparazzi and I'll go over the details of how this is will work out.

kelly · 05-05-2004, 10:24 PM

Here in the UK (and the European countries I've used it in), if you have a Visa debit card the amount is checked against your account even if it's only 10 pence and if there are insufficient funds the transaction won't be authorised by the card issuer.

psyko514 · 05-05-2004, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
psykho

You know way too much about how systems work

However, in ePassporte, you cannot use a Virtual Visa for a non-virtual transaction without attempting forced authorization.

We request a reverse on those

I sure hope I know how it works... it's what I get paid for

That's interesting about the virtual card. I'm not 100% familiar with those as they (along with check cards and pre-paid cards) do not exist in Canada.

Does ePassporte have a zero-liability policy?

bufferover · 05-05-2004, 10:28 PM

That's realy sux ask them to chage your virtual card number and next time don't use that number for buying on net

psyko514 · 05-05-2004, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dimitar
That's realy sux ask them to chage your virtual card number and next time don't use that number for buying on net

That would make the virtual number virtually useless ;)

Kimmykim · 05-05-2004, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
Does ePassporte have a zero-liability policy?

If YOU do not have an ePassporte account by now and have not read the terms, you need to drop me an email and I'll start you one myself

psyko514 · 05-05-2004, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
If YOU do not have an ePassporte account by now and have not read the terms, you need to drop me an email and I'll start you one myself

hehehe... *hangs head in shame*

when i joined spotbrokers, i was under the impression an ePassporte account was set up for me. however, when i tried to login to it, i apparently had the wrong password. i never got a virtual visa number, so i'm assuming an account wasn't set up.

what's your email address? kimmykim (at) epassporte.com? what info do you need from me?

Kimmykim · 05-05-2004, 11:12 PM

It's [email protected] -- drop me an email and we'll get this figured out by morning

DreamCumTrue · 05-05-2004, 11:15 PM

Holy...mother...that is out of control!

Kimmykim · 05-05-2004, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DreamCumTrue
Holy...mother...that is out of control!

And not exactly what is happening. I will leave it to paparazi to post the details after he gets in contact with me

Paparazzi · 05-06-2004, 02:59 AM

Hi Kimmy,
just woke up and sent you an email.

$5 submissions · 05-06-2004, 03:00 AM

Was this resolved yet?

Kimmykim · 05-06-2004, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paparazzi
Hi Kimmy,
just woke up and sent you an email.

I'm just waiting on one last thing and then you'll have a reply

pornstar2pac · 05-06-2004, 09:14 AM

put all your money in pay pal.

psyko514 · 05-06-2004, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
put all your money in pay pal.

cause i'm sure that's a safe bet.

Tania · 05-06-2004, 09:18 AM

i hope you get resolved

(good luck)

Kimmykim · 05-06-2004, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tania
i hope you get resolved (good luck)

It will be resolved, I just don't make a point of discussing specific account information on message boards, I'd rather go over it with paparazzi and he can tell you what he would like you to know about it

stev0 · 05-06-2004, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
That would make the virtual number virtually useless ;)

haha, nice one...

it's true, the only thing i use my CC for is online stuff.

Firehorse · 05-06-2004, 09:28 AM

I am sure Kimmykim will help you get it resolved!

pornstar2pac · 05-06-2004, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
cause i'm sure that's a safe bet.

I'm looking at moneybookers today, any info about them?

Kimmykim · 05-06-2004, 10:28 AM

Paparazzi, you've got mail

ampu · 05-06-2004, 10:30 AM

epassporte blocks my account with 850$ and dont want to return me my money. for international merchants thay are totally nightmare. dont use them they can block your account like paypal every time they want and didnt answer even to my emails.

Calvinguy · 05-06-2004, 11:09 AM

How much money can you have on your epassporte account?

Kimmykim · 05-06-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ampu
epassporte blocks my account with 850$ and dont want to return me my money. for international merchants thay are totally nightmare. dont use them they can block your account like paypal every time they want and didnt answer even to my emails.

You could try emailing me and make sure to include your account name.

I'll be around for a couple more hours and then I am off to the airport and will not be online agian until tomorrow.

bizmak · 05-06-2004, 03:53 PM

Grr that sucks bro hope you get your money

Rhino22 · 05-06-2004, 03:57 PM

Sick the lawers on 'em!

05-05-2004, 05:26 PM	#1
Paparazzi Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,488	Epassporte: This is some fucked up shit!!! Someone stole $695.48 This is some crazy shit!!!! I had some old unauthorized charges on my virtual card ( http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=273759 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=263664 ) I talked with epassporte and they temporarily suspended my account and blocked both my virtual & electron card. My last correspondence with them was Apr 27 and haven't heard back from them since which SUCKS! Today I took a look at my account and I see some cocksucker bought some stuff from an online store in Sweden for $695.48 on my virtual card EVEN if my card was blocked WTF. You guys have to take a look at your security!!!!!! __________________ Pure Level(3) Premium Bandwidth When Quality Counts

05-05-2004, 05:27 PM	#2
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05-05-2004, 05:35 PM	#6
freezex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 98	Fuck man I had same shit happening to me 2 months ago, 700 bucks stolen, I will get it back though. Epassporte have been good to me thru this.

05-05-2004, 05:42 PM	#8
Paparazzi Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,488	thanks for the support guys...just had about $18-19 in my account so I have like -$676 now, but still pretty scary someone can steal that amount and overcharge the account...plus my cards was BLOCKED!!! I really hope they catch that fucker __________________ Pure Level(3) Premium Bandwidth When Quality Counts

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05-05-2004, 10:13 PM	#24
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05-05-2004, 10:23 PM	#25
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	psykho You know way too much about how systems work However, in ePassporte, you cannot use a Virtual Visa for a non-virtual transaction without attempting forced authorization. We request a reverse on those Drop me an email paparazzi and I'll go over the details of how this is will work out.

05-05-2004, 10:24 PM	#26
kelly Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK Posts: 901	Here in the UK (and the European countries I've used it in), if you have a Visa debit card the amount is checked against your account even if it's only 10 pence and if there are insufficient funds the transaction won't be authorised by the card issuer. __________________ http://www.thehungersite.com

05-05-2004, 10:28 PM	#28
bufferover Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 25,203	That's realy sux ask them to chage your virtual card number and next time don't use that number for buying on net

05-05-2004, 11:12 PM	#32
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05-06-2004, 10:28 AM	#45
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05-06-2004, 10:30 AM	#46
ampu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 25	epassporte blocks my account with 850$ and dont want to return me my money. for international merchants thay are totally nightmare. dont use them they can block your account like paypal every time they want and didnt answer even to my emails.

05-06-2004, 11:09 AM	#47
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05-06-2004, 03:53 PM	#49
bizmak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 10,014	Grr that sucks bro hope you get your money

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